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steveox
06-14-2007, 11:47 AM
Should we legalize prositution? I say yes cause it will cut down on violence against women and girls.

JavaBlack
06-14-2007, 12:07 PM
I actually agree on that. If it were legal it could be regulated to prevent spread of disease and abuse.

steveox
06-14-2007, 12:14 PM
Do it like the State of Nevada does it. You go to a cathouse pay a fee and have all the fun you want. But the girls must get tested for diseases and you must bring a doctors report you dont have any sexaul transmitted diseases as well.

USMC the Almighty
06-14-2007, 12:15 PM
I actually agree on that. If it were legal it could be regulated to prevent spread of disease and abuse.

See that's the problem. I was weighing the pros and cons of legalizing prostitution in my head prior to posting, and the chief pro was that it would limit the size of the government and release some burden on our police forces so they could focus on the real criminals.

But then that word "regulate" comes up and removes really the only pro that legalizing prostitution has.

More and more I'm becoming convinced that "regulate" is a codeword for "bureaucracy".

Segep
06-14-2007, 12:45 PM
Do it like the State of Nevada does it. You go to a cathouse pay a fee and have all the fun you want. But the girls must get tested for diseases and you must bring a doctors report you dont have any sexaul transmitted diseases as well.

I think it's a good idea. It could improve women's (and some men's) lives and make them safer.

9sublime
06-14-2007, 01:15 PM
It should be legal, but very stricly monitored. Sure, its going to be beauracracy, but its going to help.

steveox
06-14-2007, 01:58 PM
If men have trouble with women or try to have sex with her then men like us should go to a cathouse and have fun with those girls.

jeeperscreepers
06-14-2007, 04:17 PM
Do it like the State of Nevada does it. You go to a cathouse pay a fee and have all the fun you want. But the girls must get tested for diseases and you must bring a doctors report you dont have any sexaul transmitted diseases as well.

So the note would make you feel safe? There are lots of activities that could take place between the testing and the fun, isn't there? So wouldn't it stand to reason that it is NOT safe.

I'm not saying that legalized prostitution isn't something to think about, but the above quote doesn't give me a good argument.

Rokerijdude11
06-14-2007, 09:37 PM
Once again we need only to look to the Dutch to see if this is a viable plan and of course we find that it IS viable and better for all involved its safer, removing the "criminal" element..its safer from a health aspect.....safer for the women.....the "johns"....it's a win win for everyone

r0beph
06-14-2007, 11:30 PM
Once again we need only to look to the Dutch to see if this is a viable plan and of course we find that it IS viable and better for all involved its safer, removing the "criminal" element..its safer from a health aspect.....safer for the women.....the "johns"....it's a win win for everyone


wow shoot me.


i agree with your nutty ass.

scary.

whats the world comin to.

Segep
06-15-2007, 08:13 AM
So the note would make you feel safe? There are lots of activities that could take place between the testing and the fun, isn't there? So wouldn't it stand to reason that it is NOT safe.

I'm not saying that legalized prostitution isn't something to think about, but the above quote doesn't give me a good argument.

With free, anonymous testing available in most places around the country, would it be unreasonable to require that not only the...consultants...be required to keep proof of STD status, but also the clients?

steveox
06-15-2007, 11:07 AM
wow shoot me.


i agree with your nutty ass.

scary.

whats the world comin to.

An end soon.

Abraxis Axis
06-15-2007, 12:44 PM
With free, anonymous testing available in most places around the country, would it be unreasonable to require that not only the...consultants...be required to keep proof of STD status, but also the clients?

there has been talk of this in Holland ...I think it would be a great idea....BUT many men are not faithful and would not be willing to carry such a "card" in theyre walets?

Justinian
06-15-2007, 02:43 PM
More and more I'm becoming convinced that "regulate" is a codeword for "bureaucracy".

It is. Anyhow, anyone who advocates the legalization of prostitution has no morals or understands government responsibility to the people. To legalize prostitution would mean to condemn thousands of unborn lost-souls to a base life of debauchery, hopelessness, reclusion, unfullfillment, emptiness, etc. It would also cause the heartbraking of thousands of families who lost that one child to the abusive, enslaved life of sin and drugs where they have no home, solitude or hope and belief for the future. You folks represent that breed of people that thinks Government is the answer when morals fail or are eliminated when all it means is social decay and rotting government expansion....You poor fools. You fail to learn and obey ancestral human codes of conduct and morality then voluntarily surrender your freedoms in believing government is wiser than you and is your individual advocate. That's funny since no entity can be an advocate for individuals if the individuals are philisophically diverse. Government then becomes your enemy and is against anything dominant, good or bad which of course is one of the big elements of liberalism. Even people who understand this still many times deny that liberalism is not a means to an end but only an intermediacy of another dominant code which must prevail in order to secure order and national government strength. When a people lose their own integrity, manifested in them by their elders and practiced and preached by themselves, they become more than the victims of the governing body but the voluntary embracing of the hideous, hypocritcal, alien governing body that will only cost them more money and bring misery, confusion and frustration. Immorality is the advocate of expanding government and ofcourse the breaking of the public spirit, the understanding of virtues and ulrimately its will to fight against unjust evils domestic or foreign. I know my colleague from the corps knows this as do my local military friends but the question is when will you people learn, return to God and reclaim your nation and ancestral nature and identity? God, virtue and morality is freedom and liberalism and free thought is enslavement.

chad750
06-15-2007, 10:37 PM
Prostitution is legal in Nevada and I dont see that it has turned into one hedonistic cesspool. The only thing it has done is regulated it like a business to keep safe and to keep people from spreading comunicable diseases.
I've been to Reno where the most famous whorehouse in the world is the Mustang ranch which is on the outskirts. The people of Reno werent running around in rampant debauchery they were just normal every day people with a choice.
People have a personal choice to make about prostitution it is not a governmental choice.
Thats like saying the gov should be able to outlaw smoking ciggs it is a personal choice up to the individual it does not hurt society for people to make their own decisions about their personal life. Personal choices only hurt the individual and maybe loved ones around them not Society as a whole.

drippinhun
06-16-2007, 04:19 AM
Abusers don't inflict harm because they are sexually frustrated, unless they are in denial about their own homosexual feelings.

mustardayonnaise
06-17-2007, 12:51 AM
Prostitution should not be illegal. Prohibition doesn't work. Why is someting ok when done free of charge, but as soon as money is involved it becomes a crime? Who is anyone to tell a person what they can do with their own body?
Besides, with America being the ultimate free market and rewarding enterprise, I would have thought prostitution would be encouraged with tax breaks. Bush supports small businesses, after all...;)

Poolee
06-17-2007, 08:05 PM
I'm torn on this one so I didn't vote... yet. On the one hand the Capitalist in me says sure. If this is what these women are good at then why can't they use their skills to earn a living? Other people sell regular merchandise, they sell their bodies. Sure they would have to get a license.

On the other hand I believe prostitution is immoral. Whether it's legal or not should vary state by state if it should become legal. If you have a problem with the morality of it then move to a state where it's illegal...

Whoa. I just solved my own problem. I vote yes.

Abraxis Axis
06-18-2007, 07:00 PM
Prostitution should not be illegal. Prohibition doesn't work. Why is someting ok when done free of charge, but as soon as money is involved it becomes a crime? Who is anyone to tell a person what they can do with their own body?
Besides, with America being the ultimate free market and rewarding enterprise, I would have thought prostitution would be encouraged with tax breaks. Bush supports small businesses, after all...;)

the most important thing you said

"prohibition dosent work"

invest07
06-20-2007, 09:28 AM
I'm not a supporter of prostituion. I wish it would just disappear. But that is not going to happen.

It should be legalized, regulated and taxed.

A fair amount of scarse law enforcement assets are tied up in busitng prostys and there is also a load on the court system. It would also take this activity out of the shadows from crime into the sunlight.

Reluctantly, I say legalize prostitution.

Force-of-the-Truth
06-29-2007, 10:28 AM
I can't really vote yes or no because, although I favor decriminalizing being a prostitute or a client, I support nailing panderers to the wall (figuratively).

rmbarron
06-29-2007, 03:51 PM
I can't really vote yes or no because, although I favor decriminalizing being a prostitute or a client, I support nailing panderers to the wall (figuratively).

Frankly I'd rather support nailing the prostitutes. If only they were legal and clean.

r0beph
06-29-2007, 07:03 PM
Prostitution if legal should be highly controlled, until they cure hiv, hpv, and other yuckies.

Castle
06-29-2007, 07:29 PM
I'm not a supporter of prostituion. I wish it would just disappear. But that is not going to happen.

It should be legalized, regulated and taxed.

A fair amount of scarse law enforcement assets are tied up in busitng prostys and there is also a load on the court system. It would also take this activity out of the shadows from crime into the sunlight.

Reluctantly, I say legalize prostitution.
When looking at it strictly from a moral perspective it gives one pause. From a business perspective it makes perfect sense. Considering some of the ridiculous reasons I heard for getting married from both men and women, I'd almost have to advise many of them to get a room and a pro. So....I would lean towards legalization.

-Castle

r0beph
06-30-2007, 07:52 AM
Morality shouldn't be even considered when it comes to prostitution directly. I mean this is that the sale of sex isn't really a true moral issue, that's just high and mighty douchebaggery and self-elating biblery. What is a moral issue is the insurance that A) Women are not being forced into, mistreated, abused, or otherwise treated in a manner than no one would consider okay to treat someone who is not of that profession, B) the disease transmission rate. Strict rules would have to be discussed to ensure that diseases are not transmitted to clients and vice versa. Currently illegal prostitution has a VERY HIGH RATE of disease transmission, and if this is a moral talk point, it'd be the moral thing to do to bring forth gov't regulation of the industry, if not just to stifle this.

Legalizing doesn't mean anything to most people. The clients who go to the high dollar escorts now, will go to them then, the rates ;ikely will not increase nor decrease. You will still find a large number of illegal prostitutes who refuse to follow regulation, due to previous disease diagnosis or for whatever reason. A 5$ blow job will remain a thing of the streets and will not be found in the realm of legal prostitution. The slippery slope argument I feel is moot. If drugs were legal, I'd still not use them, that's just my choice. If prostitution was legal, you'd not get an influx of prostitutes from outside the sex industry. Sure strippers would likely move into the more profitable sector, but then I'm sure a large majority skirt the current laws anyhow with legal loop holes on what constitutes prostitution, and while not directly having sex for money, money would be a path to sex with them even without legalized prostitution, again this would be easier to check and would have safeguards for both the client and provider. I think it's in the best interest to legalize it from a medical standpoint. Morally I find nothing wrong with it, in fact I find it somewhat, the moral thing to do. Personally I'd never pay for sex.

dahermit
06-30-2007, 12:08 PM
When I was stationed in San Antonio in 1963, Laredo Mexico was about 60 miles away. Many soldiers and airmen would venture to Laredo for the services of Mexican prostitutes (I never did). Being curious, I asked how much was the typical price for the services of a prostitute. I was told 3-4 American dollars. When I questioned why they were so inexpensive, I was told that the extreme poverty in Mexico kept the price low...it was the desperation of pitifully poor people.

There in lies a possible solution. Poverty seems to be a world wide factor in the business of prostitution. Cure the poverty, drastically reduce the root cause of the trade. Notice I did not say: Eliminate it.

Burning Giraffe
07-19-2007, 04:02 AM
See that's the problem. I was weighing the pros and cons of legalizing prostitution in my head prior to posting, and the chief pro was that it would limit the size of the government and release some burden on our police forces so they could focus on the real criminals.

But then that word "regulate" comes up and removes really the only pro that legalizing prostitution has.

More and more I'm becoming convinced that "regulate" is a codeword for "bureaucracy".

Its not a codeword, it is a bright red flag! The government should legalize it and hold it to the sex laws that are already on the books.

Rockin Mark
07-31-2007, 12:54 PM
.it will clean it up ..............the ladies will have their med records on the wall

ChairmanMeow
08-07-2007, 05:51 PM
Prostitution should be legal and well regulated and much, much! Much more professional!

Hard Driver
08-15-2007, 05:39 PM
But then that word "regulate" comes up and removes really the only pro that legalizing prostitution has.

More and more I'm becoming convinced that "regulate" is a codeword for "bureaucracy".

Not all regulation is bad. How do you think we keep factories from dumping pollution in rivers, we regulate it. How do we keep cars getting better gas milage, we regulate it. How do we keep pharacutical drugs safe, we regulate them.

Sure, BS red tape is extravagent and there is much regulation that is bad. But in and of itself, regulation is not evil.

gtanner79
10-09-2007, 06:06 AM
If you break it down and look at it on a basic level - it does seem strange that it's illegal for you to willingly have sex with someone with money involved. Sex isn't a "drug" - is illegal prostitution really just a long, long, holdover from a morality issue?

Legalizing it wouldn't remove all of the criminal element, but it seems like it would remove a great deal of it. Perhaps we just don't want "whore" to be a desired, legal occupation.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it - but the liberal in me is questioning why it's illegal in the first place.

For sake of an example - take alcohol. Alcohol certainly has a small criminal element about it (underage drinking, bootlegging, etc) - but largely it's a controlled, legal enterprise. When prohibition went into effect - what happened? The criminal element surrounding liquor skyrocketed. Once prohibition was rid of, the "alcoholic environment" we know today returned. Could this also become true with legalized prostitution? Would it become a banal and ordinary party of society with only a negligible criminal element?

Interesting question....

9sublime
10-09-2007, 08:20 AM
Great post tanner. It would reduce the risks too, making it a much safer occupation.

USMC the Almighty
10-09-2007, 08:53 AM
I think this issue should be left up to the states.

Personally, I couldn't care less about prostitution. It's arguably the only topic more boring topic than gay marriage.

pocketfullofshells
02-01-2008, 09:39 PM
I am in favor, if it was legal, the law of supply and Demand and the Free market would lower the prices......I mean it would be safer?

numinus
02-17-2008, 08:06 AM
Great! Maybe schools could get prostitutes to give seminars to your children too, eh? Heck, why not make it part of the curriculum?

9sublime
02-18-2008, 02:37 PM
For someone who always bashes on about logic of the law and not appealing to emotion numinus I find it bizzare that you are against it on those grounds.

numinus
02-20-2008, 01:10 AM
For someone who always bashes on about logic of the law and not appealing to emotion numinus I find it bizzare that you are against it on those grounds.

The moral calculation that prohibits prostitution IS logical.

When you engage a prostitute, you are, in fact, treating another human being as an OBJECT of personal pleasure.

When a woman prostitutes herself, she is, in fact, ALIENATING her natural fecundity for financial remuneration.

The logic is simple.

Dr House
05-13-2008, 05:44 PM
Abso-f*cking-lutely.

And none of that regulation bullshiit neither. None of the economy needs to be regulated, not least this.

I've read it's actually de facto legal to a certain extent. It costs too much to prosecute, especially for high-priced escorts, so the police leaves it alone for the most part.

-Dr House :cool:

top gun
05-13-2008, 06:25 PM
I am in favor, if it was legal, the law of supply and Demand and the Free market would lower the prices......I mean it would be safer?

That may very well be the the funniest curve ball I've read in here! Great job! :D