View Full Version : Jessie Davis Arrested on Murder but will not get death penaty based on Race
steveox
06-23-2007, 08:46 PM
Ohio mom's body found; boyfriend charged
CANTON, Ohio - A massive search ended in sadness Saturday when authorities announced they found a body believed to be a pregnant woman who vanished from her home a week earlier. A police officer believed to be the father of the unborn child was arrested on two counts of murder.
Jessie Davis, 26, who was due to deliver a baby girl on July 3, was reported missing after her mother found Davis' 2-year-old son home alone, bedroom furniture toppled and bleach spilled on the floor.
The boy gave investigators their first clues. "Mommy was crying. Mommy broke the table. Mommy's in rug," the boy said.
Thousands of volunteers had searched for Davis over several days, while investigators continued to question Bobby Cutts Jr., 30, who is the father of Davis' son but is married to another woman.
Investigators were mum on many details of their work until they announced Cutts was taken into custody Saturday and was to be arraigned on charges of murder in the deaths of Davis and her unborn child.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070624/ap_on_re_us/missing_woman
Scott Peterson got Death penalty verdict on two counts of murder but Jessie Davis wont get the Death penalty on two counts of Murder and un born child. Could it because Jessie Davis is Black and not charged with the Hate Crime? If a white person kills a black person oh sure he will get the death penalty just like the white guys in Texas Killed a black man by dragging him by chains on his pick up truck and the jury gave him death penalty. Well Jessie Davis is Black he killed his fomer white pregnant girlfriend and unborn child Ill bet you he will get 20 years behind bars cause hes not white. Well Scott Person Killed his pregnant wife laci peterson with unborn child and he got death cause Hes white!! Its all about racism in american court system!
While I am one who believes in innocence until proven guilty and I have my own reservations about the death penaly and the race card that is often played and it is usually that a minority is tried in a capital murder case rather than a white person. It reminds me of the Sonya Ivanoff law, in Alaska. Which basically says that if a law enforcement officer is convicted of murder that they are required to get life in prison. Alaska does not have the death penalty, but this stems from a police officer in Nome, Alaska who was convicted of the murder of Sonya Ivanoff.
The thing we must not forget is that this is domestic violence in its worse form. Despite harsh laws against it, DV is a serious problem in this country that is often overlooked. A sad say for all involved.
steveox
06-24-2007, 03:20 PM
UPDATE!! New arrest in murder of pregnant woman
CANTON, Ohio - A former classmate of the man suspected of murdering a pregnant woman was arrested Sunday on an obstruction of justice charge, the FBI said. Myisha Ferrell was arrested in the death of 26-year-old Jessie Davis after sheriff's deputies and FBI agents broke down the door of her apartment Saturday night, agent Scott Wilson said.
The Stark County Sheriff's Department refused to discuss the arrest, saying any information made public would hurt their case. Ferrell was to be arraigned Monday, Wilson said.
The Summit County medical examiner on Sunday identified a body found in Cuyahoga Valley National Park as that of Davis. The dead, nearly full-term fetus was still in her womb.
Thousands of volunteers searched for Davis for several days, while investigators questioned Bobby Cutts Jr., 30, a police officer who is Davis' boyfriend and has an estranged wife. He is scheduled to be arraigned Monday.
Davis' relatives have said they believed Cutts, of North Canton, was the father of both Blake and the fetus Davis was carrying.
Justin Lindstrom, 27, an upstairs neighbor of Ferrell's, said officers spent two hours searching the woman's apartment before leaving with several full, brown paper bags and bottles of bleach from the basement.
Wilson would not describe what the deputies seized or say how Ferrell might have been involved.
Lindstrom said he had not seen the downstairs tenant over the weekend and rarely spoke to the woman, except to ask her to turn her music down. He said he didn't notice anything out of the ordinary around the time Davis disappeared.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070624/ap_on_re_us/pregnant_woman_dead_17
Myisha Ferrell IS BLACK!!! Now Why arent the Media telling this is a HATE CRIME!!! When You have a White Couple murder a black boy OH YEAH THey say its an Hate Crime. Just like the Media jumped the gun decided its a hate crime when 3 white guys from texas who tied a black guy with chains with an pick up truck dragged him down the highway and killed him and the Jury game them the death penalty! How come when WHITES commit crimes against blacks its an Hate Crime But when Blacks commit crimes against whites its not an hate crime? Just like this Bull**** about scott peterson GOT DEATH By a liberal san franiscio jury.Scott Peterson did the same crime as Bobby Cutts did and i want THE DEATH PENALTY on him too!!
Coyote
06-24-2007, 03:28 PM
Actually, statistics show that a black person is more likely to have his case brought forward to the death penalty phase then a white person committing a similar crime. Also, a black person committing a crime on a white person is more likely to get the death penalty then a black on black crime.
steveox
06-24-2007, 03:51 PM
Then explan why Scott Peterson got death?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/LAW/04/04/ctv.peterson/vert.peterson.transfer.pool.jpg
Hey he looks white to me.
Coyote
06-24-2007, 04:02 PM
Then explan why Scott Peterson got death?
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/LAW/04/04/ctv.peterson/vert.peterson.transfer.pool.jpg
Hey he looks white to me.
Did I say white men never got the death penalty?
steveox
06-24-2007, 04:16 PM
Did I say white men never got the death penalty?
It sure sounds like it. And the Liberal media isnt calling out for Cutts death nether.And theyre not saying its a hate crime nether.But When Scott Peterson was on trial all Nancy Grace on Court TV is calling out for Death against Scott Peterson Now she wasnt calling out Death for O J Simpson nether!
Steve, once again, you need to get your facts straight.
Where should I even start, OK Nancy Grace is usually so off base with her comments it is borderline criminal in my opinion. She was not nationally known at all when OJ was being tried, so I dont know how you would have known what she was calling for on the OJ issue.
Comparing Scott Peterson and the case at issue right now is not quite fair just yet. Scott Peterson was tried and convicted. Cutts hasnt even been arraigned yet. Also, according to CNN, a source in the investigation said that Cutts led police to the womans body in an isolated part of a national park. Ever contemplate the idea that maybe there is a plea deal in the works where the prosecutor said no death penalty if you fess up and tell us where the body is? Because that is a very highly likely scenario, it happens all the time.
Also your notion about race and the death penalty is completely incorrect. Go and look up some statistics, real true facts and not just your enclosed skewed world perception. Minorities are much more likely to be given the death penalty and once sentanced to death, to actually be executed. So try it again and use some facts this time please.
steveox
06-24-2007, 10:56 PM
Police Officers do not make deals! Detectives dont make deals.Thats like if i take people hostage and i tell the Negotiator "" If i end the drama I dont want the Death Penalty..Detective will say,,Son,I cannot gurantee that,But i can only gurantee your safety""" Cops dont make deals.If you try to bribe them,,Thats a crime!
vyo476
06-25-2007, 02:44 AM
Police Officers do not make deals! Detectives dont make deals.Thats like if i take people hostage and i tell the Negotiator "" If i end the drama I dont want the Death Penalty..Detective will say,,Son,I cannot gurantee that,But i can only gurantee your safety""" Cops dont make deals.If you try to bribe them,,Thats a crime!
Maybe you should go back and read his post. Plea bargains occur between the accused and the prosecutors of their trial. An alarmingly common plea bargain is the "No death sentence if you let us know where the body is" deal. Those happen all the time. The deal is being made with the prosecutors...not the police.
Coyote
06-25-2007, 05:41 AM
It sure sounds like it. And the Liberal media isnt calling out for Cutts death nether.And theyre not saying its a hate crime nether.But When Scott Peterson was on trial all Nancy Grace on Court TV is calling out for Death against Scott Peterson Now she wasnt calling out Death for O J Simpson nether!
This is what I said:
Actually, statistics show that a black person is more likely to have his case brought forward to the death penalty phase then a white person committing a similar crime. Also, a black person committing a crime on a white person is more likely to get the death penalty then a black on black crime.
I'm just pointing out statistics in the inequity in the death penalty. I don't listen to Court TV.
By the way...shouldn't someone be tried and convicted before you start calling for the death penalty?
steveox
06-25-2007, 06:12 AM
You dont understand just how crooked and coruputed american Justice system is.Just like that O J Trial and Micheal Jackson trial.If any ordinary person did what O J an M J did he or she would been in Prison for a very long time.
Coyote
06-25-2007, 06:36 AM
You dont understand just how crooked and coruputed american Justice system is.Just like that O J Trial and Micheal Jackson trial.If any ordinary person did what O J an M J did he or she would been in Prison for a very long time.
You're picking a few high profile rich boy cases and making an example of them.
steveox
06-25-2007, 08:34 AM
Thats why i like the Justice system Russia had. You know back in those days of the soviet union You dont get a lawyer when you commit a crime.You dont get a jury. You have to tell it to those 3 Judges all by yourself.And beg for mercy 99.5% of the time youll end up in prison.And those 3 judges dont care how many rubbles you have.You commit the crime you do the time.
Yeah Steve, changing our entire criminal process to the soviet union's system seems like a great idea to me. Forget about the systemic differences and thier lack of freedoms. There is no need for due process or the bill of rights, lets just get rid of them all and bring back witch trials. Maybe after we all find him guilty based on your opinion we can tie him in a bag and throw him in Lake Erie. Come on dude, bring some form of facts and a bit of common sense to these threads please. Also Ill point out that in the old Soviet system, you would be shot for more than half the things you have posted in here. But hey you want to get rid of the first amendment, so based on your wishes we all should.
r0beph
06-27-2007, 11:20 PM
Ohio mom's body found; boyfriend charged
CANTON, Ohio - A massive search ended in sadness Saturday when authorities announced they found a body believed to be a pregnant woman who vanished from her home a week earlier. A police officer believed to be the father of the unborn child was arrested on two counts of murder.
Jessie Davis, 26, who was due to deliver a baby girl on July 3, was reported missing after her mother found Davis' 2-year-old son home alone, bedroom furniture toppled and bleach spilled on the floor.
The boy gave investigators their first clues. "Mommy was crying. Mommy broke the table. Mommy's in rug," the boy said.
Thousands of volunteers had searched for Davis over several days, while investigators continued to question Bobby Cutts Jr., 30, who is the father of Davis' son but is married to another woman.
Investigators were mum on many details of their work until they announced Cutts was taken into custody Saturday and was to be arraigned on charges of murder in the deaths of Davis and her unborn child.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070624/ap_on_re_us/missing_woman
Scott Peterson got Death penalty verdict on two counts of murder but Jessie Davis wont get the Death penalty on two counts of Murder and un born child. Could it because Jessie Davis is Black and not charged with the Hate Crime? If a white person kills a black person oh sure he will get the death penalty just like the white guys in Texas Killed a black man by dragging him by chains on his pick up truck and the jury gave him death penalty. Well Jessie Davis is Black he killed his fomer white pregnant girlfriend and unborn child Ill bet you he will get 20 years behind bars cause hes not white. Well Scott Person Killed his pregnant wife laci peterson with unborn child and he got death cause Hes white!! Its all about racism in american court system!
It depends on circumstance. You'll see more black people on death row than white people. Just go look, most of the info is availible online.
I don't know if they'll try him capitally or not. That depends on the evidence. Premeditation and extreme heinous action are usually the only reasonable criteria used for capital retort for a crime. If the murder occurred due to a quick moral err, then no capital punishment is not warranted under our law. If the state cannot prove that it was a premeditated act it simply can't fly.
You are using this as a perpetuation of racism yourself. Please reanalyse your approach.
Linda
06-28-2007, 04:13 AM
From what I've heard on tv and read in the news, Cutts shouldn't have been on the police force in the first case. He has a history of domestic violence going back for years....
He put Jessie Davis' body where he hoped it would never be found. And what about all that Clorox all over her bedroom floor? He said her eyes just rolled back in her head and she was dead. The Clorox says otherwise!
r0beph
06-28-2007, 07:39 PM
From what I've heard on tv and read in the news, Cutts shouldn't have been on the police force in the first case. He has a history of domestic violence going back for years....
He put Jessie Davis' body where he hoped it would never be found. And what about all that Clorox all over her bedroom floor? He said her eyes just rolled back in her head and she was dead. The Clorox says otherwise!
I'm not speaking on this case specifically, just in accordance with the law. Trust me this. If they CAN get a capital murder case, THEY WILL. No ifs ands or buts. It's not a race card. Until we have all the details laid out for us to observe (no doubt via court tv for a 6 week trial extravaganza) we simply can't judge whether it is LAWFUL for us to administer executive justice.
I said before and will again, reading between the lines, there was a deal struck between Cutts, and the prosecutor that basically said; we know you did it, we have evidence(of some sort), tell us where the body is, and we wont go for the death penalty. Otherwise what incentive would he have to tell police where the body was?
r0beph
06-28-2007, 08:26 PM
That is likely the case. I didn't think about that aspect.. I was still in trial mode.
That is likely the case. I didn't think about that aspect.. I was still in trial mode.
Im not sure you wont see much of a trial. The news story said he led police to the body. I believe he pled not guilty to start with, but it would be months before a trial would start and there is plenty of time for his lawyer to talk some sense into him and convince him pleading guilty is the wisest thing. I am not convinced the man has any remorse, but hopefully someone is talking to him about avoiding having the families go through that process as it is highly traumatic, and he still has a living son to think about.
r0beph
06-28-2007, 09:22 PM
Im not sure you wont see much of a trial. The news story said he led police to the body. I believe he pled not guilty to start with, but it would be months before a trial would start and there is plenty of time for his lawyer to talk some sense into him and convince him pleading guilty is the wisest thing. I am not convinced the man has any remorse, but hopefully someone is talking to him about avoiding having the families go through that process as it is highly traumatic, and he still has a living son to think about.
True, however I don't know. if the DA assured him no death penalty if he plead AND showed the location of the body, then trial will not occur since plea is set for stand if he wants the deal. We'll see once it all comes out. Either way he's gone I'm sure. Be it death or be it life in prison...
steveox
07-05-2007, 12:48 PM
It depends on circumstance. You'll see more black people on death row than white people. Just go look, most of the info is availible online.
I don't know if they'll try him capitally or not. That depends on the evidence. Premeditation and extreme heinous action are usually the only reasonable criteria used for capital retort for a crime. If the murder occurred due to a quick moral err, then no capital punishment is not warranted under our law. If the state cannot prove that it was a premeditated act it simply can't fly.
You are using this as a perpetuation of racism yourself. Please reanalyse your approach.
You just watch what the District Attorney does.He`s gonna ask for life in Prison Just to get the BLACK VOTE!!! Just like that asshole guy in the Duke Rape case he was out to get RE-ELECTED by playing the Race card.
r0beph
07-05-2007, 05:33 PM
I think you fail to realize how the justice system works. If the prerequisites exist for a crime, and the evidence shows to garner a likely conviction they'll push it. I bet a paycheque that it goes as capital murder to the grand jury IF it fits the requisites of the law for 1st degree murder and capital punishment as per the statutes of the locality where the crime is jurisdictional. Whether it makes it to trial with that, who knows. DAs look out for stuff like that because letting someone go on lesser chargers than are warranted is a real ass kicker in the elections. It's quite reverse what you think.
steveox
07-05-2007, 05:44 PM
I think you fail to realize how the justice system works. If the prerequisites exist for a crime, and the evidence shows to garner a likely conviction they'll push it. I bet a paycheque that it goes as capital murder to the grand jury IF it fits the requisites of the law for 1st degree murder and capital punishment as per the statutes of the locality where the crime is jurisdictional. Whether it makes it to trial with that, who knows. DAs look out for stuff like that because letting someone go on lesser chargers than are warranted is a real ass kicker in the elections. It's quite reverse what you think.
Well Scott Peterson got the Death Penalty even the San Fran District Attorney pushed for it because the women of san fran want him to die! Remember Women make up the votes in San Fran even the queers hold the votes too in San Fran.
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