Lasher

[Dustin]

I don't mean to cause problems as I'm new here but.... I really do not feel comfortable in a forum where a blantant anti-jew and someone who bashes staff here is allowed to post.

[USMC the Almighty]

Complaint noted Dustin. It's being talked over in the moderator forum.

[Dustin]

Thanks, USMC. I appreciate it. I mean it's one thing to be anti-zionist, or even anti-jew for that matter (although it's still wrong), lasher goes very rudely about it.

[bewitched]

on all forums there are agent provacateurs who's purpose is to spread Zionist propaganda. it's part of the effort to infiltrate. Infiltration is something addressed by Steve Emerson in his book and is in many forms including the US water resources, road systems, government, schools, and all the cracks possible.

awareness is a good thing.

[USMC the Almighty]

He's gone. I'll say here what I said in the mod forum:

It's fine to argue against the merits of Israel being a country, but keep it civil. Blanket condemnations of the entire Jewish religion and calling for a second Holocaust is not allowed here.

[numinus]

I don't mean to cause problems as I'm new here but.... I really do not feel comfortable in a forum where a blantant anti-jew and someone who bashes staff here is allowed to post.

There really is no other way to deal with anti-anything people except to demonstrate how patently foolish their arguments are. That is the essence of plurality.

[USMC the Almighty]

There really is no other way to deal with anti-anything people except to demonstrate how patently foolish their arguments are. That is the essence of plurality.

You can expose the flaws and inaccuracies all day long. All you get in return as being called "Jewboy".

[numinus]

You can expose the flaws and inaccuracies all day long. All you get in return as being called "Jewboy".

The more flaws and inaccuracies you expose, the more foolish he appears to everyone, no?

Personally, I don't give much stock to the opinions of foolish people - so they can knock themselves out calling me a bigot or a religious nut or some such nonsense. But hey, that's just me.

[Segep]

Yeah, num, but we can't have a psycho running loose on the forum advocating violence against an entire group of people.

Unless you enjoy the thought of DHS and FBI keeping a watch on this forum and its members.

[bewitched]

Yeah, num, but we can't have a psycho running loose on the forum advocating violence against an entire group of people.

Unless you enjoy the thought of DHS and FBI keeping a watch on this forum and its members.

heh. DHS and FBI don't really detail everyone's forums, they are way too busy with real criminals.

[Segep]

You're right, they have computers to do it for them. Don't kid yourself that they only watch the bad guys. Remember COINTELPRO?

[9sublime]

I'm more concerned it will put off potential members.

[numinus]

Yeah, num, but we can't have a psycho running loose on the forum advocating violence against an entire group of people.

Why not?

Only morons would be inclined to take psychos seriously. And if any particular psycho wishes to advocate absurdities, better here where reasonable individuals can expose him for what he truly is.

[numinus]

I'm more concerned it will put off potential members.

If you post it, they will come.

If for nothing else, just to vent indignation to what is clearly wrong.

[bewitched]

You're right, they have computers to do it for them. Don't kid yourself that they only watch the bad guys. Remember COINTELPRO?
most people aren't interesting enough to watch. really.
the feds only show up when they are obligated by law.

[bewitched]

Why not?

Only morons would be inclined to take psychos seriously. And if any particular psycho wishes to advocate absurdities, better here where reasonable individuals can expose him for what he truly is.

hmmm. columbine?
careful what you wish for numinus.

[numinus]

hmmm. columbine?
careful what you wish for numinus.

I'm not wishing for anything. A plural society would necessarily have its dose of absurdities. While I do believe that absurdities (and the people who spout them) need to be verbally chastised in the harshest way possible, I do not see the wisdom of prohibiting them to air their views.

[bewitched]

I'm not wishing for anything. A plural society would necessarily have its dose of absurdities. While I do believe that absurdities (and the people who spout them) need to be verbally chastised in the harshest way possible, I do not see the wisdom of prohibiting them to air their views.

this is a privately owned forum.

[numinus]

this is a privately owned forum.

Correct. A private forum operating within the PUBLIC DOMAIN.

[Bunz]

I notice that he is banned...is this a permanent ban? Without knowing the discussion among the mods concerning the behavior and not trying to undermind the decisions by the mods, I hope that he might be able to return at some point as long as he tones it down a bit.

[9sublime]

Well, the ban is currently permenant, but if you all want him back then fine. I can't possibly think why you would want him back for his views, all his posts were nonsense and hate.

[numinus]

Well, the ban is currently permenant, but if you all want him back then fine. I can't possibly think why you would want him back for his views, all his posts were nonsense and hate.

It is unfortunate that you don't seem to get the point.

Like everything else, even lasher's crap is finite. However else he wishes to sugar-coat crap, it is still crap, hence deserves nothing but utter contempt. Banning him merely dignifies his crap.

[9sublime]

I don't care if you believe I dignify his crap numinus, I don't want him turning this forum crap.

[Popeye]

I don't care if you believe I dignify his crap numinus, I don't want him turning this forum crap.

No big loss, he was filling up everything with his anti Jewish stuff anyway.

Hey sublime, big win for Arsenal, huh?

[9sublime]

Indeed popeye. And a good win for Man Utd too.

Do you watch the MLS? I tried playing it on football manager (a shameful passion of mine) and the system is really wierd, but kind of good.

[Popeye]

Indeed popeye. And a good win for Man Utd too.

Do you watch the MLS? I tried playing it on football manager (a shameful passion of mine) and the system is really wierd, but kind of good.

Yeah, good win for Man U, big loss for Liverpool considering it was played at Anfield. It's still early, but, for the time being, it's a two team race.

I've tried watching the MLS, but the sad quality of play plus the poor venues is just too much to take.

[Segep]

Banning him merely dignifies his crap.

No, it only dignifies it in his own mind. What it does is make the board more enjoyable for the rest of us, and makes it a friendlier place for newbies. So this forum is not the ultimate free speech, anything goes, smackdown fest it could be. So what? I've seen some of those boards, and while they may be fun once in a while as a novelty, they grow tiresome fast if you want talk about something honestly or in depth.

[bewitched]

No, it only dignifies it in his own mind. What it does is make the board more enjoyable for the rest of us, and makes it a friendlier place for newbies. So this forum is not the ultimate free speech, anything goes, smackdown fest it could be. So what? I've seen some of those boards, and while they may be fun once in a while as a novelty, they grow tiresome fast if you want talk about something honestly or in depth.

indeed.
flame wars, name calling, hijacked threads, all very tiresome and disappointing.

[numinus]

I don't care if you believe I dignify his crap numinus, I don't want him turning this forum crap.

Whatever lets you sleep soundly at night, I suppose.

[9sublime]

Whatever num.

[numinus]

No, it only dignifies it in his own mind. What it does is make the board more enjoyable for the rest of us, and makes it a friendlier place for newbies. So this forum is not the ultimate free speech, anything goes, smackdown fest it could be. So what? I've seen some of those boards, and while they may be fun once in a while as a novelty, they grow tiresome fast if you want talk about something honestly or in depth.

Debate IS supposed to be a clash of ideas - hence adversarial in nature. Synthesis can NEVER occur if one does not allow thesis to to collide with anit-thesis.

Besides, your idea of forum 'utopia' is nothing more than a tyranny of like-minds - a stagnant swamp where only disgusting and cowardly creatures would deign to reside.

[bewitched]

Debate IS supposed to be a clash of ideas - hence adversarial in nature. Synthesis can NEVER occur if one does not allow thesis to to collide with anit-thesis.

Besides, your idea of forum 'utopia' is nothing more than a tyranny of like-minds - a stagnant swamp where only disgusting and cowardly creatures would deign to reside.

maybe you should be banned too.

[numinus]

maybe you should be banned too.

That would happen as soon as you run out of ideas to disguise your crap. Then, I'd be forced to say exactly what I think of your crap.

No need to rush the inevitable, don't you think?

[bewitched]

That would happen as soon as you run out of ideas to disguise your crap. Then, I'd be forced to say exactly what I think of your crap.

No need to rush the inevitable, don't you think?

huh?
but I'm curious...
how would you rate yourself as a contributor to this forum?

[numinus]

huh?

I don't think there is a need to be courteous when responding to crap.

but I'm curious...
how would you rate yourself as a contributor to this forum?

A very unpopular contributor. I would be the least likely to become a moderator - hence your stay in this forum is quite secure, if that's what you mean.

[bewitched]

I don't think there is a need to be courteous when responding to crap.

A very unpopular contributor. I would be the least likely to become a moderator - hence your stay in this forum is quite secure, if that's what you mean.
so why are you so abrasive?
guess you aren't Rodney King, eh?

debate taken too seriously is not fun. life is short... fun is good.

[numinus]

so why are you so abrasive?
guess you aren't Rodney King, eh?

debate taken too seriously is not fun. life is short... fun is good.

Me??? Abrasive??? I usally have a sunny disposition! It permeates this entire forum!

[bewitched]

Me??? Abrasive??? I usally have a sunny disposition! It permeates this entire forum!

hahhahaha.
maybe your self image is a little off.
you come off as an a$$hole. not sunny in the least.
maybe you are a yankee.
no offense.

[numinus]

hahhahaha.
maybe your self image is a little off.
you come off as an a$$hole. not sunny in the least.
maybe you are a yankee.
no offense.

None taken - especially coming from morons.

[bewitched]

None taken - especially coming from morons.

hahhahaha.
no abrasion there, eh?
type A people usually have heart attacks.

[numinus]

hahhahaha.
no abrasion there, eh?
type A people usually have heart attacks.

Well, you didn't actually think I'd let your remark pass without a tit for your tat, did you?

Or do you usually speak with morons who do not know the appropriate reply when told they 'come off as an a$$hole'?

[9sublime]

Lashers been banned, petty arguing has begun. Time to close the thread. :)

[USMC the Almighty]

I opened this thread back up due to the emergence of one "DavidHenry". As if the anti-Jew material wasn't enough, I recalled a private message that I received from my friend Segep a couple weeks ago. I hope he doesn't mind me posting but:

"I'd bet my left nut that Lasher is DavidHenry. I owned him so bad on another forum that PM almost makes it certain."

Glad to know that Segep is keeping his left nut. And by the way, vyo, I believe you owe me a case of beer from my prediction of his reincarnation.

As for you Lasher, if you post a sincere apology for "insulting" moderators and members here by referring to them as "Jews" or "Jewboys" and inciting hatred against an entire religion, we might consider re-instituting you. This would come with a few conditions however and you would have to adhere to the forum's written and unwritten rules of conduct:

(1) First -- no attacking other members, especially not moderators. It's okay to attack the message, but not the messenger.

(2) Debate the merits of Israel being a state, etc. but don't just hurl blanket condemnations of an entire religion.

(3) Just like with the 9/11 conspiracists, you have to broaden your horizons a bit. You're not going to be allowed to post thread after thread on why Jews are the bane of existence.

(4) IF we allow you to come back, keep in mind that you will be on very thin ice. If you create an environment that is unpleasant for any of our honored guests, then you do not have a place here. It's fine to argue against Zionism and whatnot, but do it in a civil, intelligent manner. Just calling people who have deconstructed your argument "Jewboy" isn't what we're looking for here. You can take that stuff over to the Ron Paul or Stormfront forums.

[USMC the Almighty]

I just saw where 9sublime addressed David Henry in another thread. My apologies, but nevertheless, please do heed the warnings I posted. Keep it intelligent and civil.

[9sublime]

I second USMC's reprisal for Lasher.

[Segep]

And by the way, vyo, I believe you owe me a case of beer from my prediction of his reincarnation.

And not the cheap stuff either. :D

[9sublime]

I would reccommend Grolsch.

[Coyote]

I would reccommend Grolsch.

Try Old Peculiar:)

[9sublime]

Is that even avaliable in the UK?

Do you know we actually have a beer called the Dogs Bollocks?

[Dustin]

Lasher is not the same as Davidhenry although him and his friend jen, are both racist, anti-semites. They are both banned at my forum.

[DavidHenry]

Lasher is not the same as Davidhenry although him and his friend jen, are both racist, anti-semites. They are both banned at my forum.

So it is you.

[vyo476]

And by the way, vyo, I believe you owe me a case of beer from my prediction of his reincarnation.

Well, that'll be easy to procure, seeing as I'm still a year under the legal drinking age.