Anti-Semitism

[vyo476]

Maybe it wasn't clear in the last note that I left. Here it is in bold:

ANTI-SEMITISM IS NOT TOLERATED HERE. PERIOD.

Once again, being anti-Israel is a political stance and is acceptable; being anti-Jew is racism and violates the forum rules on inclusiveness. I know I'm preaching to the choir where the regular forum members are concerned, but hopefully having this right there up front will deter any future anti-semites from popping in on us.

[valor]

Is it considered Anti-Semitism when describeing a actual event in history, that involved the Jewish people?

[Segep]

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to be able to tell when someone is just leading up to some good ol' fashioned Jew bashing.

[valor]

When you accept knowledge after hearing one side of the story, it is not your opinion, it is someone elses and you are mearly a sheep speading propaganda.

[Mare Tranquillity]

When you accept knowledge after hearing one side of the story, it is not your opinion, it is someone elses and you are mearly a sheep speading propaganda.

You sound like someone selling Intelligent Design.

[vyo476]

When you accept knowledge after hearing one side of the story, it is not your opinion, it is someone elses and you are mearly a sheep speading propaganda.

True enough, but most of us have heard the anti-semitic conspiracy theories in all their lack of glory and the only ones that don't boil down to fantastical, racist alarmism are the ones that pertain to pertain to the political stance of Israel - and those aren't "conspiracy theories" so much as opinions on Israel's policies, the impact of its existence, and the relationship between Israel and the United States (and even some of the things pertaining to that last point go over the top).

[LibertyHawk]

It's sad this even needs to be a topic :(

[9sublime]

Libertyhawk... do you really believe bigger government is the answer to peace or is it an ironic signature?

[abu-afak]

Maybe it wasn't clear in the last note that I left. Here it is in bold:

ANTI-SEMITISM IS NOT TOLERATED HERE. PERIOD.

Once again, being anti-Israel is a political stance and is acceptable; being anti-Jew is racism and violates the forum rules on inclusiveness. I know I'm preaching to the choir where the regular forum members are concerned, but hopefully having this right there up front will deter any future anti-semites from popping in on us.

Just a comment on this policy, though iI am more of a free-speecher.

There are very few knuckle-dragging Jew haters left. Most have made the PC Switch to 'anti-zionist'/Israel Basher.

ie, Merely substituting the word 'zionist' (or Israeli) for "Jew', as in 'Zionist Bankers' is clearly still anti-semitism.
Or the ' World Zionist Plot' instead of 'World Jewish Plot'.

OR substituting adjectives (dershowitz) traditionally associated with anti-semitic slander like "Greedy Zionist" instead of "Greedy Jew" is also clearly anti-semitism

Same with the old Blood Libels (killing non-jews to bake bread with, responible for the bubonic plague, etc) and accusing 'Israel' of 'Genoicde' is STILL anti-semitism.

IOW, merely plugging in 'Israel' does not make speech any more palatable. At least not to the experienced reader.
And I do see this all over the net- having posted on scores of boards fro0m Beijing to Bahrain to Berlin to Berkeley.

[heyjude]

World Jewish Plot and greedy Jew are not anti-semetic? I beg to differ. Any one under the delusion that there is a plot amongst the Jews, or Israelis to take over the world is a fool, and a bigot. I guess that is redundant. All bigots are fools.

Greedy Jew? It was Ronald Reagan who said greed was Americas religion. And he wasn't being critical. He was proud of it. There are no doubt greedy Jews. And there are greedy people of every race, religion, and ethnic group. And every religion teaches that greed is evil. Perhaps you should make the swith to anti-Zionist/Israel basher.

[abu-afak]

World Jewish Plot and greedy Jew are not anti-semetic? I beg to differ. Any one under the delusion that there is a plot amongst the Jews, or Israelis to take over the world is a fool, and a bigot. I guess that is redundant. All bigots are fools.

Greedy Jew? It was Ronald Reagan who said greed was Americas religion. And he wasn't being critical. He was proud of it. There are no doubt greedy Jews. And there are greedy people of every race, religion, and ethnic group. And every religion teaches that greed is evil. Perhaps you should make the swith to anti-Zionist/Israel basher.

Huh?

Your reading comprehension is ZERO.

It's ME making the point that substituting 'Zionist' or 'Israel' for Jew is STILL Anti-semitic.

Unbelievable.

Are you people from 'special education' or 'English-as-a-second language' class?

[heyjude]

Huh?

Your reading comprehension is ZERO.

It's ME making the point that substituting 'Zionist' or 'Israel' for Jew is STILL Anti-semitic.

Unbelievable.

Are you people from 'special education' or 'English-as-a-second language' class?

I apologize for not reading your post carefully. However, I do not think you had the right to personally insult me. I made a mistake. One I have had done to myself many times. If you post on a MB you should get used to it. I have.

The fact is I skim most posts about anti-Semitism on this MB. I do not like to read it because it is so stupid. It makes me angry. I commend the administrators for their efforts to try to end it, and I am glad that the majority of the offenders are gone. Well done.

[abu-afak]

Forgiven.
So just let me put my post onto this page for others who didn't see, covered by your reply.

The mods themselves who get rid of these Blatant anti-semites- may be guily of the vvery thing I pont at.
So I'm not sure commendability is 100-% in order

Just a comment on this policy, though iI am more of a free-speecher.

There are very few knuckle-dragging Jew haters left. Most have made the PC Switch to 'anti-zionist'/Israel Basher.

ie, Merely substituting the word 'zionist' (or Israeli) for "Jew', as in 'Zionist Bankers' is clearly still anti-semitism.
Or the ' World Zionist Plot' instead of 'World Jewish Plot'.

OR substituting adjectives (dershowitz) traditionally associated with anti-semitic slander like "Greedy Zionist" instead of "Greedy Jew" is also clearly anti-semitism

Same with the old Blood Libels (killing non-jews to bake bread with, responible for the bubonic plague, etc) and accusing 'Israel' of 'Genoicde' is STILL anti-semitism.

IOW, merely plugging in 'Israel' does not make speech any more palatable. At least not to the experienced reader.
And I do see this all over the net- having posted on scores of boards fro0m Beijing to Bahrain to Berlin to Berkeley.

[Aaron Burr]

So I guess it's not cool to spell jooooooooo's with nine O's?

[Coyote]

So I guess it's not cool to spell jooooooooo's with nine O's?

So...are you like 14 or something? Don't you have a life beyond childish attempts at board disruption and amateur antisemitism?


No...wait....I forgot...:D


http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/Assets/enfantprovocateur.jpg

[Aaron Burr]

Are you high? How could anyone read my post and not see it as a definite raspberry directed towards the Neanderthals who actually are antisemitic.

I've seen a very disturbing rise in Antisemitism on several boards. Frankly, I'm tired of dealing with these idiots rationally.

I will spell out the sarcasm more blatantly next time. Your attempts at humor seem cruder than mine.

[Coyote]

I truly apologize. I thought you were a reincarnation of several extremely nasty antisemitic trolls that had been banned but still come through with new identities. My mistake - sorry...:(

[Aaron Burr]

My bad, the forum I usually post on is pretty heavy on the sarcasm. Whenever I see Jew bashing I just go for the humiliation angle. Please, direct me to some antisemites so I may spread the love.

Seriously, what's the deal? Like I said, I've heard about a rise in the Jew hating, but haven't seen it, just the aftermath.

Oh. And the next time someone starts in on the whole die Jew die thing, simply point out that people who hate Jews are probably closeted Jews who masturbate while secretly reading the Torah all night.

Yup, smear them with Jewyness. Drives em' crazy.

[9sublime]

It seems to be almost hard coded into human nature that a very small number of us have to blame the Jews for anything thats going wrong.

[Bunz]

It seems to be almost hard coded into human nature that a very small number of us have to blame the Jews for anything thats going wrong.

You know I must have missed that gene, because I simply dont get that whole phenomenon. I would advise everyone take the path I do when it comes to blaming the problems of the world on a single group who isnt entirely responsible.

I blame the English!

[USMC the Almighty]

You know I must have missed that gene, because I simply dont get that whole phenomenon. I would advise everyone take the path I do when it comes to blaming the problems of the world on a single group who isnt entirely responsible.

I blame the English!

It's Alaska's fault. Everybody knows that.

[9sublime]

I blame the English!

Haha. I think I'm going to side with USMC and blame the Alaskans here. :D

[Coyote]

My bad, the forum I usually post on is pretty heavy on the sarcasm. Whenever I see Jew bashing I just go for the humiliation angle. Please, direct me to some antisemites so I may spread the love.

Seriously, what's the deal? Like I said, I've heard about a rise in the Jew hating, but haven't seen it, just the aftermath.

Oh. And the next time someone starts in on the whole die Jew die thing, simply point out that people who hate Jews are probably closeted Jews who masturbate while secretly reading the Torah all night.

Yup, smear them with Jewyness. Drives em' crazy.

They've been banned but they go by names like Jenifer Jones and...what's the other...Henry something? I can't remember. My theory is that they're a bunch of pimply faced overweight teenagers eeking out a pathetic half-life in their parents basements, living off a diet of stale cheetos, warm pepsi and an occasional cheeseburger while trying to get a rise out of people by trolling forums. They have their own forum that is pretty weird and mostly self-congratulatory on their supposed "victories" in battling Joooooooo lovers on other forums and getting banned like it's a badge of distinction. Pretty pathetic eh?

[9sublime]

I wouldn't call it a forum, I'd call it a hyper-hate-discourse between two sad lovers.

[Coyote]

I wouldn't call it a forum, I'd call it a hyper-hate-discourse between two sad lovers.

Do you really think there's more then one of them?

I wonder myself....I mean look at their choice of user names for one....maybe it's one guy patting himself on the back endlessly?

Now THAT is sad.


Maybe I can squeeze out a tear.


Then again, maybe not.

[Aaron Burr]

Wait, there's a place you guys know about where these guys hang out? I would love to go there and introduce myself. Ripping on Nazis NEVER gets old. These people are usually highly emotionally charged, and are therefore easy to infuriate. Sometimes to the point of tears. That's Nectar of the Gods my friends.
The only drawback is all the viruses and hacker attacks my computer has to put up with. Totally cool, being friendly with one of the "Jesus Deficient" who's into computers helps.

If we're gonna' blame a Nation for everything, I'm leaning towards Malta.

If we're gonna' blame a people for everything, I submit the Aonikenk. Even the name irritates me.

[Coyote]

Wait, there's a place you guys know about where these guys hang out? I would love to go there and introduce myself. Ripping on Nazis NEVER gets old. These people are usually highly emotionally charged, and are therefore easy to infuriate. Sometimes to the point of tears. That's Nectar of the Gods my friends.
The only drawback is all the viruses and hacker attacks my computer has to put up with. Totally cool, being friendly with one of the "Jesus Deficient" who's into computers helps.

If we're gonna' blame a Nation for everything, I'm leaning towards Malta.

If we're gonna' blame a people for everything, I submit the Aonikenk. Even the name irritates me.

It's a rinkydink forum - it's on Jenifer Johnson's/DavidHenry's profiles I think - http://www.individual-sovereignty.com/phpBB2/

They'll ban you I'm sure. It's like small children.

[Aaron Burr]

How you found that place I'll never know....
Seem's like some other highly excitable types are posting there, trying to get "Davids" goat.

What a wasted opportunity. Two points.
1. They can't afford the bandwidth. This means, wait for the 30 day probationary period to end and then start posting long videos, cut and paste the O.E.D. anything big. Antisemetics are usually broke, this is because being non-Jewish, they don't understand how money works. (forgive the joke, but I am an Evil Bastard.)

2. These guys are used to getting yelled at. Don't bother. Hard cases like these need a different approach. Thusly,
A. Agree with everything they say, hell, encourage their hate. Give em' enough rope and they really will hang themselves.(This requires you notify the appropriate agencies first.)
B. Pose as an Islamic Radical.
C. Start a long distance romance with one of these guys, break up when he's jelly in your palm.
D. Pose as a self hating Jew. So you hate Jews, but feel really guilty about it.
E. Class action lawsuit for mental cruelty....and yes, hire a Jewish lawyer

[Coyote]

How you found that place I'll never know....
Seem's like some other highly excitable types are posting there, trying to get "Davids" goat.

What a wasted opportunity. Two points.
1. They can't afford the bandwidth. This means, wait for the 30 day probationary period to end and then start posting long videos, cut and paste the O.E.D. anything big. Antisemetics are usually broke, this is because being non-Jewish, they don't understand how money works. (forgive the joke, but I am an Evil Bastard.)

2. These guys are used to getting yelled at. Don't bother. Hard cases like these need a different approach. Thusly,
A. Agree with everything they say, hell, encourage their hate. Give em' enough rope and they really will hang themselves.(This requires you notify the appropriate agencies first.)
B. Pose as an Islamic Radical.
C. Start a long distance romance with one of these guys, break up when he's jelly in your palm.
D. Pose as a self hating Jew. So you hate Jews, but feel really guilty about it.
E. Class action lawsuit for mental cruelty....and yes, hire a Jewish lawyer

hahaha!!! :D I love the way you think.


ohhhh....yes....I love it:D

[Segep]

How you found that place I'll never know....
Seem's like some other highly excitable types are posting there, trying to get "Davids" goat.

What a wasted opportunity. Two points.
1. They can't afford the bandwidth. This means, wait for the 30 day probationary period to end and then start posting long videos, cut and paste the O.E.D. anything big. Antisemetics are usually broke, this is because being non-Jewish, they don't understand how money works. (forgive the joke, but I am an Evil Bastard.)

2. These guys are used to getting yelled at. Don't bother. Hard cases like these need a different approach. Thusly,
A. Agree with everything they say, hell, encourage their hate. Give em' enough rope and they really will hang themselves.(This requires you notify the appropriate agencies first.)
B. Pose as an Islamic Radical.
C. Start a long distance romance with one of these guys, break up when he's jelly in your palm.
D. Pose as a self hating Jew. So you hate Jews, but feel really guilty about it.
E. Class action lawsuit for mental cruelty....and yes, hire a Jewish lawyer

Funniest thing I've read all week. :D

[USMC the Almighty]

How you found that place I'll never know....
Seem's like some other highly excitable types are posting there, trying to get "Davids" goat.

What a wasted opportunity. Two points.
1. They can't afford the bandwidth. This means, wait for the 30 day probationary period to end and then start posting long videos, cut and paste the O.E.D. anything big. Antisemetics are usually broke, this is because being non-Jewish, they don't understand how money works. (forgive the joke, but I am an Evil Bastard.)

2. These guys are used to getting yelled at. Don't bother. Hard cases like these need a different approach. Thusly,
A. Agree with everything they say, hell, encourage their hate. Give em' enough rope and they really will hang themselves.(This requires you notify the appropriate agencies first.)
B. Pose as an Islamic Radical.
C. Start a long distance romance with one of these guys, break up when he's jelly in your palm.
D. Pose as a self hating Jew. So you hate Jews, but feel really guilty about it.
E. Class action lawsuit for mental cruelty....and yes, hire a Jewish lawyer

Hahaha, that was good AB. Paste the OED, that's priceless.

[Aaron Burr]

I'm just sayin'....

But this may be a good time for someone to post "Springtime For Hitler" from the producers.

Also, I'm still pretty firm in my anti Malta stance.

[Izz]

I like that song...

So, Burr, if I change my name to Alexander Hamilton can we duel so that you can shoot me and thus ruin your political career forever?

[Aaron Burr]

It may be one of the funniest movies ever made, and it drives antisemetics friggin nuts. I would post it to end the argument, but I don't want to take up that much bandwith for something everyone has already seen.

But about that Hamilton guy...I wouldn't recommend taking the moniker unless you really are an old school Federalist. These were the guys who thought that because they owned big chunks of the land, they were the only ones smart enough to run it. Or, like Hamilton, the only one smart enough to run the bank.
Nothing a .50 cal dueling pistol couldn't handle.

Besides, Burr was the "Washington of the West" he could have run for Senate from Tennessee or W.V. But those dang "designs for a Western Empire" kept gettin' in the way. If that fat bastard Wilkenson had gotten off his ass, we would have 80 something states instead of the our paltry 50, and our southern border would be with Panama. But as we all know, Burr was just doin' his job, which was to smoke out traitors. Shooting Wilkenson would have had no effect, kinda like shooting Jabba the Hut.

But if you really want to Hamilton to my Burr, fine. Just let me bring the pistols this time, Hamilton's were set to a hair trigger. Fuggin' Clinton of the 1790's......

[Izz]

It may be one of the funniest movies ever made, and it drives antisemetics friggin nuts. I would post it to end the argument, but I don't want to take up that much bandwith for something everyone has already seen.

But about that Hamilton guy...I wouldn't recommend taking the moniker unless you really are an old school Federalist. These were the guys who thought that because they owned big chunks of the land, they were the only ones smart enough to run it. Or, like Hamilton, the only one smart enough to run the bank.
Nothing a .50 cal dueling pistol couldn't handle.

Besides, Burr was the "Washington of the West" he could have run for Senate from Tennessee or W.V. But those dang "designs for a Western Empire" kept gettin' in the way. If that fat bastard Wilkenson had gotten off his ass, we would have 80 something states instead of the our paltry 50, and our southern border would be with Panama. But as we all know, Burr was just doin' his job, which was to smoke out traitors. Shooting Wilkenson would have had no effect, kinda like shooting Jabba the Hut.

But if you really want to Hamilton to my Burr, fine. Just let me bring the pistols this time, Hamilton's were set to a hair trigger. Fuggin' Clinton of the 1790's......

I don't mind Clinton, but this isn't the place for political debates. I just love the story about those two- their entire story is a case of *****slapping one another with all sorts of things. I can see them starting at gloves and getting all the way to dropping pianos on one another.

[Aaron Burr]

Well, actually, it was a double entendre as the Governor of New York was named Clinton as well. But it's a sad story really, they started out as friends.

Just trying to get the stench of Nazi out of here. Please start a normal thread, by all means.

[crux]

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Join Date: Jan 2008
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When Jesus died, the Temple Veil was torn, and God moved out of that place never again to dwell in a Temple made with hands (Acts 17:24). God was through with that Temple and its religious system and worship forever, and the Temple and Jerusalem was left “desolate” (destroyed by the Romans) in 70 A.D. just as Jesus prophesied it would in Luke 13:35. As long as the Temple stood, it signified the continuation of the Old Covenant. Hebrews 9:8-9 indicates that the way to the sanctuary was not yet open “as long as the outer tent” still stood, being symbolic of “the present age.” The “present age” refers to the age that was passing away even as the New Covenant was being established (Hebrews 8:13).

Are we still denying Jesus is the son of GOD, and now the fact that he sit's at the right hand of our father?

http://copiosa.org/images/veil_sanctuary.jpg


anti-semetic, anti christian, i wish one of you would explain the difference, why is one form of religion allowed to be chastised on thi forum, yet the other is protected from scrutiny at all cost?

It is obvious to all that visit, that hypocrites still hide behind a veil.

http://www.picsearch.com/info.cgi?q=...MTT-aMCif4jh6w

[crux]

Here is a link to the string in question.

http://houseofpolitics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2350

[Mare Tranquillity]

When Jesus died, the Temple Veil was torn, and God moved out of that place never again to dwell in a Temple made with hands (Acts 17:24). God was through with that Temple and its religious system and worship forever, and the Temple and Jerusalem was left “desolate” (destroyed by the Romans) in 70 A.D. just as Jesus prophesied it would in Luke 13:35. As long as the Temple stood, it signified the continuation of the Old Covenant. Hebrews 9:8-9 indicates that the way to the sanctuary was not yet open “as long as the outer tent” still stood, being symbolic of “the present age.” The “present age” refers to the age that was passing away even as the New Covenant was being established (Hebrews 8:13).

I'm curious why you believe that the quote above is true. Just because it's in the Bible?

[numinus]

I'm curious why you believe that the quote above is true. Just because it's in the Bible?

Because its the word of god. Duh?

[vyo476]

Crux, no one forces you to come here. If you don't like our policies, feel free to never come back.

We won't miss you.

[invest07]

Anti-semitism is alive and well and thriving throughout the world.

Here is a quote from writer Ray Gano in an article at the following site . This list summarizes the way bigots (and anti-semites) do their dastardly deeds.

"The five steps or stages leading to the eventual persecution of a group(s):

1. Identifying and stereotyping the group;
2. Marginalizing the group-pushing it out of the mainstream to the margins of society;
3. Vilification, slandering, and trashing of the group;
4. Passing discriminatory legal restrictions and eventually criminalizing the activities of the group;
5. Outright persecution of the group. "

Number 1 and number 3 above have already been done to the Jews.
Number 2 is now in process.
Numbers 4 and 5 are what eventually happened in Nazi Germany during the 1930's and 1940's.

One of my favorite writings explains this process:

"In Germany, the Nazis first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists, but I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics, but I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak for me."

THis was written by Rev. Martin Neimoeller, German Lutheran Pastor. Rev. Neimoeller was arrested by the Gestapo for opposing Hitler and was sent to Dachau in 1938. He was freed by Allied forces in 1945.