Colin Powell says he might vote for Obama

[Popeye]

Colin Powell, the former Republican secretary of state, says he is not ruling out a vote for Obama. Powell, speaking in Vancouver BC, said his support of McCain is not a forgone conclusion:

"I will vote for the individual I think that brings the best set of tools to the problems of 21st-century America and the 21st-century world regardless of party, regardless of anything else other than the most qualified candidate,"

"Both of them certainly have the qualifications to be the president of the United States, but both of them cannot be."

Very interesting, it appears Obama is attracting supporters from every walk of life and both political parties.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080613.BCPOWELL13/TPStory/National

[SW85]

There's a difference between not categorically ruling out voting for him and becoming a "supporter."

And if he did win Colin Powell's vote, it wouldn't be evidence that he's attracting people from "all walks of life" (he isn't): he's already getting 80%+ of the black vote.

[Popeye]

There's a difference between not categorically ruling out voting for him and becoming a "supporter."

And if he did win Colin Powell's vote, it wouldn't be evidence that he's attracting people from "all walks of life" (he isn't): he's already getting 80%+ of the black vote.

Instead of his color, I care to focus on the fact that Powell has always identified with the GOP, in fact was a member of Bush's administration. Just the fact that he is considering voting for Obama is news.

[NO Obamanation]

Instead of his color, I care to focus on the fact that Powell has always identified with the GOP, in fact was a member of Bush's administration. Just the fact that he is considering voting for Obama is news.

Didn't you call Colin Powell a tom or something like that? Perhaps IF he is voting for Obama, he has straightened up by your standards of what a black man should do?
That is IF he votes for Obama.
Now, if he votes for McCain, does that mean he is still a tom?

[pocketfullofshells]

There's a difference between not categorically ruling out voting for him and becoming a "supporter."

And if he did win Colin Powell's vote, it wouldn't be evidence that he's attracting people from "all walks of life" (he isn't): he's already getting 80%+ of the black vote.

so if you get 80% of the black vote you cant get people from all walks of life?

To bad he is leading in most other groups as well :)

[GenSeneca]

The thread title could have been:

Colin Powell says he might vote for McCain

After all, the A-political, non-commital quote applies equally to both candidates.

But that wouldn't fit the action line, now would it?

[The Scotsman]

I'm sure that whoever Mr. Powell votes for will be joyous beyond compare.....since Obama is going to win who cares who he votes for...

[top gun]

Colin Powell, the former Republican secretary of state, says he is not ruling out a vote for Obama. Powell, speaking in Vancouver BC, said his support of McCain is not a forgone conclusion:

"I will vote for the individual I think that brings the best set of tools to the problems of 21st-century America and the 21st-century world regardless of party, regardless of anything else other than the most qualified candidate,"

"Both of them certainly have the qualifications to be the president of the United States, but both of them cannot be."

Very interesting, it appears Obama is attracting supporters from every walk of life and both political parties.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080613.BCPOWELL13/TPStory/National

It's common knowledge now that Colin Powell much like Scott McClelland was none to happy about being put out to front the LIES of the Bush/Cheney administration.

General Powell an honorable man that often was not in lock step with this crooked Svengali administration. The fact he's open to an Obama Presidency says volumes!

[NO Obamanation]

I saw an interview with the First lady and the daughter who was about to get married. When the reporter asked who they are voting for, Laura Bush said McCain, and said something to the effect that there was no point in even looking at the other side. The daughter spoke up and said why not? I can not remember the exact words but she alluded to the idea that she was considering Obama too.

Wouldn't that make bigger news than this?

[SW85]

so if you get 80% of the black vote you cant get people from all walks of life?

Sure, that's what I said.:rolleyes: Are you marginally illiterate or just dishonest?

To bad he is leading in most other groups as well :)

There is at least one poll that shows McCain leading Obama by more than 10 points among a very large and traditionally Democratic constituency -- women.

Instead of his color, I care to focus on the fact that Powell has always identified with the GOP, in fact was a member of Bush's administration. Just the fact that he is considering voting for Obama is news.

Sure, but Powell never was much of a partisan. This doesn't come as a surprise to anyone who knows anything about the man.

It's hardly evidence that Obama's attracting anyone outside of his core constituency of leftist college kids, black people, and anti-war celebrities.

[pocketfullofshells]

So if 80% of blacks vote for you that means that

Whites cant woman cant mexicans cant jews cant......Go take a stats class and learn what you are talking about. having a large part of the black vote has Zero effect on if you can get the support of other groups.

Thats not politics, thats math and logic. thats not Dishonest, its being smart enough to know.

[SW85]

So if 80% of blacks vote for you that means that

Whites cant woman cant mexicans cant jews cant......Go take a stats class and learn what you are talking about. having a large part of the black vote has Zero effect on if you can get the support of other groups.

Oh my god. You cannot possibly be this ignorant.

I did not say he couldn't attract people from all walks of life. I said Colin Powell raising the possibility of voting for him was not evidence of this. Because it isn't.

[Popeye]

There is at least one poll that shows McCain leading Obama by more than 10 points among a very large and traditionally Democratic constituency -- women.





I'm not sure what poll that would be, perhaps you could enlighten us. Meanwhile here are some results from a NBC/WSJ poll (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25096620/) released a couple days ago. Looks to me like Obama is doing quite well with women along with many other groups.


Obama-47%
McCain-41%

Independents

Obama-41%
McCain-36%

Women

Obama-52%
McCain-33%

Clinton voters

Obama-61%
McCain-19%

Hispanics

Obama-62%
McCain-28%

Blue collar workers

Obama-47%
McCain-42%

[top gun]

I'm not sure what poll that would be, perhaps you could enlighten us. Meanwhile here are some results from a NBC/WSJ poll (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25096620/) released a couple days ago. Looks to me like Obama is doing quite well with women along with many other groups.


Obama-47%
McCain-41%

Independents

Obama-41%
McCain-36%

Women

Obama-52%
McCain-33%

Clinton voters

Obama-61%
McCain-19%

Hispanics

Obama-62%
McCain-28%

Blue collar workers

Obama-47%
McCain-42%

And this is a steadily growing trend we should expect to see increase over the next 5 months.

Clinton supporters will come on board almost entirely after a little more time and they think about how anti-woman John McCain policies truly are.

Plus Senator Obama is just now over the primary and when he puts his nationwide campaign in full gear drawing the clear better direction he wants to take the country and it's contrast to the John McSame "let's just stay stuck on stupid" and hope things just magically chance for the better all on there own "strategery"... it all equals more & more support for Senator Obama.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arw-yNas2xc

[BigRob]

Instead of his color, I care to focus on the fact that Powell has always identified with the GOP, in fact was a member of Bush's administration. Just the fact that he is considering voting for Obama is news.

Hardly, look at his time in the State Department, many of the political appointments there could not stand him because he leaned very left on most issues shockingly enough, and it is no surprise that his influence fell drastically and he was all but forced out of the administration.

[Bunz]

I have a lot of respect for Colin Powell. Even after his time as Sec. State. A man who proved himself well overall. I really was hoping he would have ran in 2000. At that point my dream ticket would have been McCain-Powell. It is a shame how he was made a lamb and tarnished much of his credibility with a lot of people.

To be honest, I am not sure Obama is going to pull it off. If they dont, its because the Republican machine didnt get the job done, and the fact that McCain isnt up for the campaign. He hasnt been able to mobilize nearly as much as Obama. Plus the public money limit that McCain chose is gonna hurt him bad.

[NO Obamanation]

Plus the public money limit that McCain chose is gonna hurt him bad.

Didn't they both say they would do it, then after Obama was able to raise more money than the original agreement allowed, he backed out of the original agreement?

[Popeye]

Didn't they both say they would do it, then after Obama was able to raise more money than the original agreement allowed, he backed out of the original agreement?

OOOOOH, well that certainly disqualifies him for the presidency. Meanwhile, I've noticed you're willing to look the other way as McCain has flip flopped on virtually every major issue.

BTW, here's a short video of Obama helping fill sandbags during the flood efforts in Quincy Illinois which borders Iowa. As I'm sure you are aware, that whole area has been hit hard by flooding. John McCain offered to help but he is nowhere to be seen, I see only one candidate and that's Barack Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft4czw90PEI

[NO Obamanation]

OOOOOH, well that certainly disqualifies him for the presidency. Meanwhile, I've noticed you're willing to look the other way as McCain has flip flopped on virtually every major issue.

BTW, here's a short video of Obama helping fill sandbags during the flood efforts in Quincy Illinois which borders Iowa. As I'm sure you are aware, that whole area has been hit hard by flooding. John McCain offered to help but he is nowhere to be seen, I see only one candidate and that's Barack Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft4czw90PEI


I am not looking the other way when it comes to McCain. I don’t like McCain either remember? But there are enough people out there bashing McCain that you do not need my help. Actually you do a fantastic job of exposing his flaws and weaknesses. I notice your posts here and in another forum and though some are trivial, most are not and it’s good to see someone on the job.

But the problem is for every person out there finding the dirt on McCain they make Obama out to be some sort of Messiah or God. To balance it out, the truth of Obama has to come out too… You won’t do that, you have never put even one negative word about Obama in your posts. That is not balanced. We need the truth good and bad on both.

[BigRob]

OOOOOH, well that certainly disqualifies him for the presidency. Meanwhile, I've noticed you're willing to look the other way as McCain has flip flopped on virtually every major issue.

BTW, here's a short video of Obama helping fill sandbags during the flood efforts in Quincy Illinois which borders Iowa. As I'm sure you are aware, that whole area has been hit hard by flooding. John McCain offered to help but he is nowhere to be seen, I see only one candidate and that's Barack Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft4czw90PEI

Speaking of Flip flopping Obama has two recent flip flip gaffs have come in the from of Nuclear Power and the question of Israel. He pulled a 180 on both of this issues just recently.

And Obama pulling a media stunt by going out and filling sandbags is a nice gesture but meaningless for the election. The President can not and should not run out everytime there is some disaster and fill sandbags. He has to delegate.

[top gun]

Didn't they both say they would do it, then after Obama was able to raise more money than the original agreement allowed, he backed out of the original agreement?

I believe what happend was John McSame actually FILED that way. He didn't talk about "maybe" doing something... HE ACTUALLY DID IT!

Then he tried to break campaign finance rules and go back on his original filing AFTER IT WAS WAAAAAAAAY TOO LATE and the filing delined had long since past.

Hey as unsupported finachally as McSame is he's willing to try to pull off anything.

That's exactly why he's crying for the Towne Hall meetings. The only way the old guy can get more than a few hundred people in one place at one time to see anything he has to say... is if Obama is there bringing in the crowds of tens of thousands.

It's easy to see McCain is not a crowd getter and why...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtN3hsITCok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jKkPo

[Libsmasher]

One incompetent "affirmative action" poster child voting for ANOTHER incompetent "affirmative action" poster child? Makes sense. :D

[NO Obamanation]

I believe what happend was John McSame actually FILED that way. He didn't talk about "maybe" doing something... HE ACTUALLY DID IT!

Then he tried to break campaign finance rules and go back on his original filing AFTER IT WAS WAAAAAAAAY TOO LATE and the filing delined had long since past.

Hey as unsupported finachally as McSame is he's willing to try to pull off anything.

That's exactly why he's crying for the Towne Hall meetings. The only way the old guy can get more than a few hundred people in one place at one time to see anything he has to say... is if Obama is there bringing in the crowds of tens of thousands.

It's easy to see McCain is not a crowd getter and why...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtN3hsITCok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcdLO3jKkPo

They both made a pledge to do it. Only Obama changed his mind when he saw he could make more money this way. I think it is smart of Obama to go back on his word, who knew he could generate so much money. No one knew it could even be done this way.

I just get irritated when people sugar coat it for him or let him slick talk his way out of things.

Just say I have changed my mind, I had no idea I would be able to generate such funds. and really I owe it to the millions of people who sent money to use the money they sent for the cause they believe in... or something like that.

if he did that, it would be a notch in the I trust you, I respect you belt.

[BigRob]

That's exactly why he's crying for the Towne Hall meetings. The only way the old guy can get more than a few hundred people in one place at one time to see anything he has to say... is if Obama is there bringing in the crowds of tens of thousands.

Probably because none of you wacko's have jobs. Most likely his extension of unemployment benefits is a thank you for all of that support. :cool:

[top gun]

They both made a pledge to do it. Only Obama changed his mind when he saw he could make more money this way. I think it is smart of Obama to go back on his word, who knew he could generate so much money. No one knew it could even be done this way.

I just get irritated when people sugar coat it for him or let him slick talk his way out of things.

Just say I have changed my mind, I had no idea I would be able to generate such funds. and really I owe it to the millions of people who sent money to use the money they sent for the cause they believe in... or something like that.

if he did that, it would be a notch in the I trust you, I respect you belt.

What's you're doing though is taking things out of political campaign context. Everybody that wasn't a presumed front runner on both sides would be talking for limiting everyone else's fund raising ability .

There's absolutely positively nothing whatsoever devious or not totally above board about going any which way on how you plan to finance your campaign... until you FILE to do it a certain way. That's when your commitment, your honor is at stake.

Senator Obama ran his campaign EXACTLY as filed.

John McBush... well... he of course tried his hardest to do what he's done constantly ever since he decided to run this time. He FLIP FLOPPED completely to the opposite of how he had filed.

[top gun]

Probably because none of you wacko's have jobs. Most likely his extension of unemployment benefits is a thank you for all of that support. :cool:


Well I can only speak for ourselves and personally I've been with my company 12 years. Wife's been with hers for 18.

Still good either way though........... then they all should also be well rested and available to volunteer for the Obama campaign and vote! ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbL9ZyhiAP0