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Sihouette
08-14-2008, 06:43 AM
I'll try again

...The chairman of the Arkansas Democratic Party was shot and killed Wednesday after a man opened fire inside party headquarters in Little Rock.

Chairman Bill Gwatney was shot “multiple times” in the upper body by a man who later escaped in a blue truck, Little Rock Police Lt. Terry Hastings said in a news conference. Gwatney died four hours later at University Hospital...

...Gwatney, who was 48 and owner of three car dealerships, was elected chairman of the state party in March 2007. He served 10 years in the Arkansas state Senate and was the finance chairman for Mike Beebe’s successful 2006 gubernatorial bid.

He also was a national superdelegate who had endorsed Hillary Clinton for president, according to the Web site Sourcewatch.org..Source: http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08...d-in-shooting/

Originally I thought he was just wounded. I read that earlier in the day. Unfortunately he died.

There are some compelling facts that cannot be so easily dismissed or laid to rest.

1. That the gunman chose the democratic headquarters in Little Rock AR to shoot and kill specifically this one person there (he could've, in a rage, shot the receptionist or any first person he encountered, or a whole number of people). This was a targeted killing.

2. This targeted killing was of a Clinton superdelegate.

3. This targeted killing came on the eve of the dem convention, like a bomb threat at another Clinton campaign office earlier this year on the eve of another hinge Clinton vote.

4. Why a Clinton superdelegate was targeted is unknown, but the fact that he was singled out at that particular headquarters in Little Rock AR is a known fact.

top gun
08-14-2008, 02:24 PM
LET ME GUESS... a Senator Obama contract killing?:D

I'll help ya get your next Obama smear story started here S.

The gunman was so upset that Hillary Clinton came in second (that would be first loser to you & me) that he bought a gun and went to confront Senator Obama. However after meeting Senator Obama he fell in gay love with him and even offered to buy him drugs.

Senator Obama seizing on this opportunity told the man he could not be the gunman's gay lover or do any drugs because he was secretly in love with Senator Clinton himself.

Outraged and in a fit of passion the gunman then tracked down the first Clinton Super Delegate he could find and mortally wounded him.



I'm not really very good at this... I'm sure you'll spice it up some!;)


Oh... and still... in 2 weeks Senator Obama our nominee.

NO Obamanation
08-14-2008, 02:31 PM
LET ME GUESS... a Senator Obama contract killing?:D

I'll help ya get your next Obama smear story started here S.

The gunman was so upset that Hillary Clinton came in second (that would be first loser to you & me) that he bought a gun and went to confront Senator Obama. However after meeting Senator Obama he fell in gay love with him and even offered to buy him drugs.

Senator Obama seizing on this opportunity told the man he could not be the gunman's gay lover or do any drugs because he was secretly in love with Senator Clinton himself.

Outraged and in a fit of passion the gunman then tracked down the first Clinton Super Delegate he could find and mortally wounded him.



I'm not really very good at this... I'm sure you'll spice it up some!;)


Oh... and still... in 2 weeks Senator Obama our nominee.


That was some story and so easy to read in that nice blue font :)

I do wonder why the guy killed him, It said on the news after it happened the guy was mad about losing his job.

Sihouette
08-14-2008, 03:31 PM
Yeah, but odd that he should single out Chairman Bill Gwatney at the democratic headquarters.

When people go postal, they usually don't discriminate so carefully.

An Obama contract killing? No, this was nothing like the execution-style murders in Chicago of alleged gay partners of Obama's. This was in broad daylight, in public, with witnesses.

The only thing we really know is that he was interested with his "anger" in one and only one man, in one and only one place. He went through quite a preliminary wooing process to get a private audience one-on-one, just with Gwatney....then shot him in cold blood right at the dem headquarters. I think he wanted live witnesses left. Why not just wait until Gwatney went to his car at closing time? This gunman left live witnesses and tried to get away. That's just another clue..

Now why would I think this was politically motivated, and done right when Clinton announced she would have her day at the convention? For all I know the GOP might be just as suspect as anyone...even with those Chicago deaths... I mean the GOP did then in late 2007 and does now so much want Obama to get the nomination over the feared Clinton..

Politics are so weird, you just never know. Or this could just be a guy who woke up one day and said, "gee, I think I'll go over to democratic headquarters in Little Rock and shoot Bill Gwatney and then run off."

Whatever he was thinking, he was singling out Gwatney at that time and place for a reason...

pocketfullofshells
08-14-2008, 03:31 PM
where did he work that he lost his job? for CLinton? Or maybe in some industry he felt she did not support? Or maybe just crazy and wanted attention ? hard to say.

And yea I am also waiting for some to start going it was a Hit by Obama....its only a matter of time. God I hate people.

Sihouette
08-14-2008, 05:42 PM
There is no way Obama would've approved of this.

For the simple reason that it would garner empathy for the Clinton supporters as Gwatney was.

It does reek of a political statement though. The guy worked for Target. And in spite of the press' hopeful urgings, no evidence surfaced that he worked for Gwatney at all.

And even so, why seek out Gwatney at the democratic headquarters, in Little Rock AR on the eve of the Clinton nomination compromise? Don't tell me the guy didn't know that Little Rock was the old home place for the Clintons? Don't tell me he didn't know the ramifications of such a selected place and person?

He DID select Gwatney of any of a number of victims at hand that day. If the "rage" explanation wants to stick, he sure was awfully selective in who fell in his sights that fateful day.

The question remains: why?

NO Obamanation
08-14-2008, 05:51 PM
When the news came over the radio the first time, I remember they said he was also suspected of going into a baptist church and making threats to kill a group there but then left.


I never heard that report since so it may or may not be true.

Bunz
08-15-2008, 12:20 AM
What a tragic incident. My thoughts and condolences go to the families affected. What a nightmare that I could only wish would never happen to another loved one.

While the facts are not out at this point, it appears there was a mentally ill person bent on violence that day. Unfortunately nobody will ever know the actual answers because the suspect decided to end his life.

NO Obamanation
08-15-2008, 04:15 AM
What a tragic incident. My thoughts and condolences go to the families affected. What a nightmare that I could only wish would never happen to another loved one.

While the facts are not out at this point, it appears there was a mentally ill person bent on violence that day. Unfortunately nobody will ever know the actual answers because the suspect decided to end his life.

They will probably find out why he did this. Look through his house, talk to co workers check his political information. In time we will have a better idea of why.

Sihouette
08-15-2008, 07:44 AM
That is a statement that is misleading. He ran from the shooting. If he desired to end his life, he'd have gone down in a blaze of "glory" right at the dem headquarters. Or shot himself right on the spot, though apparently he did make out a Will.

He singled out Gwatney and then tried to flee to sanctuary at the church. So he had at least some wits about him, some specific motivation and at least some desire to recover from what he did?

Not being able to interview him doesn't remove the ability to look at the circumstantial evidence...

There was a note he left:

SEARCY, Ark. (AP) _ The killer of Arkansas' Democratic Party chairman had written his victim's name on a Post-It note and had two sets of car keys bearing logos from his victim's car dealerships, but links between the men and a motive for the slaying remained a mystery to investigators Thursday.

Police said Timothy Dale Johnson, 50, also owned at least 16 guns, had antidepressant pills and made out a will before shooting Bill Gwatney on Wednesday at party headquarters in Little Rock. He had driven there more than 30 miles after losing his job at a Target store over some graffiti written on a store wall.

The name "Gwatney" and a telephone number were written on a Post-It note found in Johnson's home, police said. They wouldn't say whether the number matched the Democratic headquarters or a Gwatney-owned car dealership, if either.

"Those are things we're investigating. Right now we don't have any indication of motive as far as it deals with Mr. Gwatney," Little Rock police Lt. Terry Hastings said.

Source: http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aid=107302.54928.119431

pocketfullofshells
08-15-2008, 08:06 AM
maybe he got screwed over on a car?
and is it just me or am I getting sick of people who have anti deppression pills owning lots of guns...just advice if you need those pills put your guns away or get rid of them, no good can come from them.

honestly I am torn at times about how to make sure people like that dont have guns, but cant just take them, but they realy should not have them, but if they did like guns could kep someone from getting the meds they realy need....its lose lose.

top gun
08-15-2008, 02:14 PM
That was some story and so easy to read in that nice blue font :)

I do wonder why the guy killed him, It said on the news after it happened the guy was mad about losing his job.

True... something about being on antidepressants and getting caught spraying graffiti on a wall at the Target store where he worked at and that had got him fired.

My guess is if there is no personal link uncovered (like the car lot angle) then it was probably just a crazed flipped out guy, delusional, that went looking to kill the top Democrat he could get to.

It's terrible that the Party Leader got killed and I feel very sorry for his family & friends.

NO Obamanation
08-15-2008, 02:18 PM
True... something about being on antidepressants and getting caught spraying graffiti on a wall at the Target store where he worked at and that had got him fired.

My guess is if there is no personal link uncovered (like the car lot angle) then it was probably just a crazed flipped out guy, delusional, that went looking to kill the top Democrat he could get to.

It's terrible that the Party Leader got killed and I feel very sorry for his family & friends.

Well it sounds like some of the reasons are coming out. It really is sad for the guy who died.

This election year is wierd, it seems very unlucky

top gun
08-15-2008, 02:33 PM
[Sihouette;55284]
An Obama contract killing? No, this was nothing like the execution-style murders in Chicago of alleged gay partners of Obama's. This was in broad daylight, in public, with witnesses.

Put her in coach! She's a team player!! No making up stories here trying to smear her own starting Quarterback so her favorite player can play.:eek:

There was someone else I really thought was disgusting just exactly like this... what was his name... Oh, Joe... Joe Lieberman.

Now why would I think this was politically motivated, and done right when Clinton announced she would have her day at the convention? For all I know the GOP might be just as suspect as anyone...even with those Chicago deaths... I mean the GOP did then in late 2007 and does now so much want Obama to get the nomination over the feared Clinton..

OOOOOOOOOOH the feared Clinton OOOOOOOOOH!:) In 13 days I'll be at a big State Democratic Party rally with the Party faithful watching the whole thing. You'll be somewhere wishing you could somehow cut off your nose to spite your face.:D

13 days Sihouette and it's gonna be like the song on COPS. Whatcha gonna do when they come for you!:D

Sihouette
08-15-2008, 05:05 PM
If you're trying to do Obama a favor Topgun, you're ranting and craziness is affecting the opposite.

People tend to respect thoughtful and reflective responses.

pocketfullofshells
08-16-2008, 08:32 AM
Put her in coach! She's a team player!! No making up stories here trying to smear her own starting Quarterback so her favorite player can play.:eek:

There was someone else I really thought was disgusting just exactly like this... what was his name... Oh, Joe... Joe Lieberman.



OOOOOOOOOOH the feared Clinton OOOOOOOOOH!:) In 13 days I'll be at a big State Democratic Party rally with the Party faithful watching the whole thing. You'll be somewhere wishing you could somehow cut off your nose to spite your face.:D

13 days Sihouette and it's gonna be like the song on COPS. Whatcha gonna do when they come for you!:D
I thought it was CLinton that killed ...wait that was VInce Foster and all those dumb conspiricies...Sad that people have so little in there lives they need to have there politicians end up like they are all out a bad movie with a plot that does not make sense....

Sihouette
08-16-2008, 08:42 AM
I just want to know why the gunman had a sticky-note with just Gwatney's name on it at his house, along with a Will.

I want to know why he specifically targeted Gwatney. And since this comes on the eve of the democratic convention, like the New Hampshire bomb threat to another Clinton office, and the shooting was specifically chosen to be done at dem headquarters in Little Rock, I'd like to know if the two were connected, given that Gwatney was a Clinton superdelegate?

At the very least we know the gunman singled him out at dem headquarters to assassinate him. It was a calculated hit.

NO Obamanation
08-16-2008, 09:13 AM
I just want to know why the gunman had a sticky-note with just Gwatney's name on it at his house, along with a Will.

I want to know why he specifically targeted Gwatney. And since this comes on the eve of the democratic convention, like the New Hampshire bomb threat to another Clinton office, and the shooting was specifically chosen to be done at dem headquarters in Little Rock, I'd like to know if the two were connected, given that Gwatney was a Clinton superdelegate?

At the very least we know the gunman singled him out at dem headquarters to assassinate him. It was a calculated hit.

Do you think anyone is investigating this? If he were paid to do it, or his family paid. It all is kind of wierd. I feel like we are back in the currupt 60s

pocketfullofshells
08-16-2008, 09:45 AM
Do you think anyone is investigating this? If he were paid to do it, or his family paid. It all is kind of wierd. I feel like we are back in the currupt 60s

yes obama paid him wrote him a personal check.....


dude its clear money was not a motivation...just stop reaching


Simple rule...the most simple and clear reason is normaly the one that is true...the big conspiricy crap is very very rarely the way things happened.

Deppressed man loses job, angry...kills man, kills self...reason Deppressed and jobless....

If he was paid , what does the chruch thing that he was said to have made threats against then have to do with anything?

NO Obamanation
08-16-2008, 09:50 AM
yes obama paid him wrote him a personal check.....


dude its clear money was not a motivation...just stop reaching


Simple rule...the most simple and clear reason is normaly the one that is true...the big conspiricy crap is very very rarely the way things happened.

Deppressed man loses job, angry...kills man, kills self...reason Deppressed and jobless....

If he was paid , what does the chruch thing that he was said to have made threats against then have to do with anything?

I am not a dude
I never said Obama's name or that he had anything to do with it
someone is dead they should investigate, it could easily be local stuff.
Maybe the man shot was about to expose someone in the local area for something, it could be anything, but more than likely it was something local.

If you want to make it national politics, mabye he was about to expose the Clintons for something and they had him shot. Just because I dont like Obama it doesnt mean that I think he is the cause from everything from global warming to child abuse.

pocketfullofshells
08-16-2008, 10:03 AM
I am not a dude
I never said Obama's name or that he had anything to do with it
someone is dead they should investigate, it could easily be local stuff.
Maybe the man shot was about to expose someone in the local area for something, it could be anything, but more than likely it was something local.

If you want to make it national politics, mabye he was about to expose the Clintons for something and they had him shot. Just because I dont like Obama it doesnt mean that I think he is the cause from everything from global warming to child abuse.


I say dude in the general non gender implying way...I know you are are female.

And there is no reason to look into if he was paid, becuse its sooooo clear that this was not a case of that and zero evidence points to it. The Amount of things they could look at are huge....but most a wast of time that can be spend doing real work on the counless other cases as well. Maybe he was paid by the CIA...the KGB, was there a conection to Columian drug lords? maybe he was gay and was turned down for gay sex by him....Maybe the guy killed was his Dealer...you could look at lots of things...but guess what it would still be clear, he was deppressed on meds ( or off them) lost job and snapped.

NO Obamanation
08-16-2008, 10:07 AM
I say dude in the general non gender implying way...I know you are are female.

And there is no reason to look into if he was paid, becuse its sooooo clear that this was not a case of that and zero evidence points to it. The Amount of things they could look at are huge....but most a wast of time that can be spend doing real work on the counless other cases as well. Maybe he was paid by the CIA...the KGB, was there a conection to Columian drug lords? maybe he was gay and was turned down for gay sex by him....Maybe the guy killed was his Dealer...you could look at lots of things...but guess what it would still be clear, he was deppressed on meds ( or off them) lost job and snapped.

It was probably that he lost his job and snapped, I do not disagree, but it would take less than a day for officals to see if money was deposited to family bank accounts and if not, then you move on. It can not hurt to look. If it were my husband shot or my husband who did the killing, I would want everything looked at.

pocketfullofshells
08-16-2008, 10:29 AM
It was probably that he lost his job and snapped, I do not disagree, but it would take less than a day for officals to see if money was deposited to family bank accounts and if not, then you move on. It can not hurt to look. If it were my husband shot or my husband who did the killing, I would want everything looked at.
if it was your hustband you would also not be rational. My car got broken into before...I wanted to find them beat them with bats and set there car on fire....does not mean thats the rational thing to do.

NO Obamanation
08-16-2008, 10:32 AM
if it was your hustband you would also not be rational. My car got broken into before...I wanted to find them beat them with bats and set there car on fire....does not mean thats the rational thing to do.

You would beat someone up for breaking in your car?

I would not have guessed that about you.

top gun
08-16-2008, 12:43 PM
If you're trying to do Obama a favor Topgun, you're ranting and craziness is affecting the opposite.

People tend to respect thoughtful and reflective responses.

I'm ranting... LoL... I'm the one ranting.:rolleyes:

You've done nothing but peddle very hurtful smears and things you know are outright lies against a gentleman that's running for President of the United States who's only real fault is he beat your chosen candidate in the primary.

I've went out of my way to try and get you to see the team is more important than yourself. I've posted the facts... failed polygraph tests and apologies and a complete 100% recanting. But you still wallow in the mud of mindless vindictive character assassination.

A then the Clintonistas try to go the blackmail route. They may not vote for their own Party because they didn't get their way. They want to be coddeled... they want respect... they want closier... they want catharsis...

Well Waaaa to them. What they need is a big kick in the pants and someone to take their Binky away because they're all acting like a bunch of big cry babies!

That's the truth and it's about time someone just came out and said it

GenSeneca
08-16-2008, 12:46 PM
But you still wallow in the mud of mindless vindictive character assassination.

Oh, like EVERY post where you mention John McCain... Mindless, vindictive character assassination - pretty well sums it up.

top gun
08-16-2008, 01:05 PM
I thought it was CLinton that killed ...wait that was VInce Foster and all those dumb conspiricies...Sad that people have so little in there lives they need to have there politicians end up like they are all out a bad movie with a plot that does not make sense....

Exactly... that's what makes what Sihouette's doing so evil. These same type smears were used... and would have been used again against the Clinton's and I guarantee you... GUARANTEE you that no Obama supporter on their worst day would bring up such irresponsible lies against their own Party.

In fact I'll look up a good Clinton Internet murder mystery right now and post it! This is what the Republicans would have been bashing Hillary about the head & face with... but not fellow Democrats.


Clinton Casualties

A "Casualty" is defined as anyone threatened with harm or actually harmed because of their knowledge of and/or involvement in one or more of the Clinton Scandals.

The following is a partial list of a large number of persons who who are presumed to be "Casualties" of the various Clinton scandals. President Clinton had promised his political supporters in Arkansas he will devote a lot of time going after detractors who pursued him on Whitewater and other ethical questions. (USA Today, November 8, 1996). It is a partial list because new addditions are added regularly and the full extent of being associated with Bill Clinton is not completly known.

The accounting of these mysterious deaths began in 1994 when in a letter to congressional leaders, former Rep. William Dannemeyer listed 24 people with some connection to Clinton who had died "under other than natural circumstances" and called for hearings on the matter. Dannemeyer's list of "suspicious deaths" was largely taken from one compiled by Linda Thompson, an Indianapolis lawyer, containing the names of 34 people she believed died suspiciously and who had ties to the Clinton family.

Some of the "Casualties" were openly murdered, but many were killed in such a way so that their deaths could be ruled accidents or suicides. This was especially true if they died in Arkansas where the medical examiners routinely ruled apparent murders as either accidents or suicides when it suited political purposes. In fact, this was so common that it was often referred to as "Arkancide" or "Arkansas Suicide".

"An apparent pattern of violence and intimidation has befallen a number of men and women with ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton, their partners in business, law and politics, and people investigating their affairs..." (The Arizona Republic, June 7, 1994)

----------------------------------------------

VINCE FOSTER MURDER

Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at
Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head,
ruled a suicide in spite of evidence to the contrary. He knew too
much about the Waco raid, and he was sickened by it. Waco was
ordered by Hillary Clinton thru Web Hubbel and Janet Reno.


Here how about a YouTube on all the Clinton killings... it's all crap but that's the high level of indecency weak minded people love to go to.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYStaILsUw

top gun
08-16-2008, 01:16 PM
Oh, like EVERY post where you mention John McCain... Mindless, vindictive character assassination - pretty well sums it up.

No it's easy to point out the truth on McCain and make points.

He is very old (would be the oldest ever) to be even thinking of being President.

He is showing signs of old age memory loss.

He has had several bouts with reoccurring cancer.

He did dump his wife who had waited for him to return from Vietnam for a rich Beer heiress with a Vicodin drug addiction.

He is now completely in line with the failed Bush policies.

If I said he was running around on his wife now. Or if I said he might be gay. Or if I said he was shooting heroin. Or if I said he'd been out killing his adversaries... that is unwarranted character assassination. And that would be wrong.

NO Obamanation
08-16-2008, 01:31 PM
No it's easy to point out the truth on McCain and make points.

He is very old (would be the oldest ever) to be even thinking of being President.

He is showing signs of old age memory loss.

He has had several bouts with reoccurring cancer.

He did dump his wife who had waited for him to return from Vietnam for a rich Beer heiress with a Vicodin drug addiction.

He is now completely in line with the failed Bush policies.

If I said he was running around on his wife now. Or if I said he might be gay. Or if I said he was shooting heroin. Or if I said he'd been out killing his adversaries... that is unwarranted character assassination. And that would be wrong.

but if there were a man saying they did drugs with him or sex, you would be all over that story. If someone was murdered who he knew for 20 years and that person recently said they had done drugs or had sex with him you would be all over it. if mccain spent 20 years in a anti black church, knowingly or not, you would be all over it. If mccain had close connections to land fraud people, terrorists, you would be all over it.

if he has a pimple you post a close up of it and call it cancer, without any proof or evidence. You are asking everyone else hold a certian standard for Obama that you would never hold for Mccain.

top gun
08-16-2008, 02:40 PM
but if there were a man saying they did drugs with him or sex, you would be all over that story. If someone was murdered who he knew for 20 years and that person recently said they had done drugs or had sex with him you would be all over it. if mccain spent 20 years in a anti black church, knowingly or not, you would be all over it. If mccain had close connections to land fraud people, terrorists, you would be all over it.

if he has a pimple you post a close up of it and call it cancer, without any proof or evidence. You are asking everyone else hold a certian standard for Obama that you would never hold for Mccain.

No I wouldn't!

There were all kinds of reports, in the real news no less, about some possible affair with McCain and one of his female lobbyist friends. I didn't find it substantiated enough... so I left it alone.

On Church it's kinda hard to nail old John down because he's the Flipper of all Floppers. Evangelists were agents of intolerance to him one day and then he had his "Bush enlightening" and suddenly he's slobering & hugging all over Jerry Falwell and giving speeches at his Church. I mean come on.

That's John McCain's form of change... it's also called I'll sell my soul, I'll change any position, lobbyist just tell me what you want me to do and I'll do it!

See the truth right before your own eyes here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbrejLsixwk

On the cancer... what can I say. It's a legitimate medical concern. The guy's had no less than 5 major bouts with cancer... over 20 lymph nodes and glands surgically removed from the left side of his head and face... and now he's got little Band Aids up in his comb over and a circle cut out of the right side of his face about the size of dime... it's note worthy.

If the guy was an known alcoholic and I saw him coming out of a bar I'd ask questions about that too.

NO Obamanation
08-16-2008, 02:44 PM
No I wouldn't!

There were all kinds of reports, in the real news no less, about some possible affair with McCain and one of his female lobbyist friends. I didn't find it substantiated enough... so I left it alone.

On Church it's kinda hard to nail old John down because he's the Flipper of all Floppers. Evangelists were agents of intolerance to him one day and then he had his "Bush enlightening" and suddenly he's slobering & hugging all over Jerry Falwell and giving speeches at his Church. I mean come on.

That's John McCain's form of change... it's also called I'll sell my soul, I'll change any position, lobbyist just tell me what you want me to do and I'll do it!

See the truth right before your own eyes here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbrejLsixwk

On the cancer... what can I say. It's a legitimate medical concern. The guy's had no less than 5 major bouts with cancer... over 20 lymph nodes and glands surgically removed from the left side of his head and face... and now he's got little Band Aids up in his comb over and a circle cut out of the right side of his face about the size of dime... it's note worthy.

If the guy was an known alcoholic and I saw him coming out of a bar I'd ask questions about that too.

I dont think anyone can reason with you on this so I shouldnt try. I stand by what I say, we can agree to disagree.


I cant till the election, its like when I was a kid waiting for Christmas

pocketfullofshells
08-16-2008, 03:52 PM
You would beat someone up for breaking in your car?

I would not have guessed that about you.

yep dont mess with my car...my guitar, camera...or worse any one of my freinds ( specialy the lady freinds)

Force is not the only option.....but its still a option......

pocketfullofshells
08-16-2008, 03:54 PM
but if there were a man saying they did drugs with him or sex, you would be all over that story. If someone was murdered who he knew for 20 years and that person recently said they had done drugs or had sex with him you would be all over it. if mccain spent 20 years in a anti black church, knowingly or not, you would be all over it. If mccain had close connections to land fraud people, terrorists, you would be all over it.

if he has a pimple you post a close up of it and call it cancer, without any proof or evidence. You are asking everyone else hold a certian standard for Obama that you would never hold for Mccain.

if I gay sex and drug story about McCain came out, you can copy past what I said about the Obama one and I am 100% I would say the same thing. hell you can even do it about Bush ( unless you just want to say he was doing cocaine..that he has more or less admited anyway)

NO Obamanation
08-16-2008, 04:28 PM
if I gay sex and drug story about McCain came out, you can copy past what I said about the Obama one and I am 100% I would say the same thing. hell you can even do it about Bush ( unless you just want to say he was doing cocaine..that he has more or less admited anyway)

From past things you have said, I think there is a fair chance you are right. I directed the post to someone else.

I wish we had a way to prove what we would really do.


I think it was Andy who proved blind Obama supporters would run to his defense even when Obama spouts retarded policy.

He did a post complaining of Obama’s energy policy and how we should wear a coat exc. And how it was similar to his inflate your tire energy policy.


3 of us believed the post, I posted I thought it was just as stupid as his tire policy and two "Obama followers" blindly defended it.

Then Andy let us know it was a fake, a joke...
And it proved Obama’s bots don’t think, they just follow

Both bots were angry


I hope it was Andy, I should double check before I click post……..

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