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EveryB
12-28-2006, 12:34 AM
How come you guys don't like Andrew Jackson?

He is one of the best presidents in the U.S.

The way he moved the general public! What a president!
USMC the Almighty
02-03-2007, 09:37 PM
I like him too, but I'm not sure about "one of the best ever".
TVoffBrainOn
02-21-2007, 11:22 AM
I like him too, but I'm not sure about "one of the best ever".

He opposed the 2nd National Bank. He earns a spot in the top 10 for that alone.
USMC the Almighty
02-21-2007, 05:13 PM
He opposed the 2nd National Bank. He earns a spot in the top 10 for that alone.

He didn't just oppose it, he vetoed its rechartering.
Archangelwolf
02-22-2007, 11:16 PM
Andrew Jackson's wife, Rachel Robards, is a blood relative of mine. That means that I am related to him by marriage.

Unfortunately, Jackson never had any children.

Arch.
vyo476
04-10-2007, 09:05 PM
His social policies regarding Native Americans bother me the most. His ideas on democracy were all pretty solid but I still favor the Jeffersonian model, personally, even if Jefferson himself went and messed it all up with protective tariffs.

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/andrew.htm

I especially enjoy the part near the end of the third to last paragraph where he talks about how whites in America would have heralded with joy a notice of removal of the like that the Indians were receiving.

EDIT: One other thing. Jackson used double the number of vetoes of all his predecessors combined and instituted the spoils system which favors political friends when selecting government appointees. I'm not terribly fond of either the expansion of executive power or the spoils system.
USMC the Almighty
04-11-2007, 05:14 AM
I remember writing a paper in high school on how Jackson was more Jeffersonian than Jefferson himself.

It'd be cool to find that.
vyo476
04-11-2007, 05:24 AM
I remember writing a paper in high school on how Jackson was more Jeffersonian than Jefferson himself.

It'd be cool to find that.

Jackson was and still is viewed by many historians as a more extreme proponent of the things Jefferson wrote for and about. I'm pretty sure that's why they make a distinction between Jeffersonian and Jacksonian democracy, kind of like how there's a distinction between socialism and communism (not that those two subjects have anything to do with each other).
Justinian
05-25-2007, 11:48 AM
Andrew Jackson's wife, Rachel Robards, is a blood relative of mine. That means that I am related to him by marriage.

Unfortunately, Jackson never had any children.

Arch.

If you're not lying, aint that somethin else.
Justinian
05-25-2007, 11:49 AM
I put Jackson as #5 on my list of top five best presidents of all time.
Justinian
05-28-2007, 05:00 PM
Jackson was and still is viewed by many historians as a more extreme proponent of the things Jefferson wrote for and about. I'm pretty sure that's why they make a distinction between Jeffersonian and Jacksonian democracy, kind of like how there's a distinction between socialism and communism (not that those two subjects have anything to do with each other).

I've always professed that people should separate the ideologies of understanding and the consequences and realities of implementing them but also understand the importance of their relationship and how they are the same. In other words, a good idea that doesn't work is not a good idea or vica versa.