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Scott
03-23-2007, 04:43 AM
These videos argue that we never went to the moon.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-7251089776146839385
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=8585273531105072202
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=7284336491671901968
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILnDZ5yl7D0&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfOMPeFk2Lk
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=740357581314190967
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Interview-with-Bart-Sibrel.html
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-73731341583788062
http://www.thule.org/brains/moon.rm
The people who made these videos did make a few mistakes but I think they do a good job of proving that we never went to the moon.
Scott
11-11-2007, 11:16 AM
I just came across this. It's the clearest evidence I've ever seen that the Apollo moon footage was taken on earth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1legw5-gst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-hfecXuaUY
When the astronaut walks by the flag, it moves.
palerider
11-13-2007, 03:44 AM
Shouldn't this be in the conspiracy theory section?
r0beph
11-13-2007, 04:49 AM
These videos argue that we never went to the moon.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-7251089776146839385
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=8585273531105072202
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=7284336491671901968
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILnDZ5yl7D0&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfOMPeFk2Lk
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=740357581314190967
http://www.erichufschmid.net/Interview-with-Bart-Sibrel.html
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-73731341583788062
http://www.thule.org/brains/moon.rm
The people who made these videos did make a few mistakes but I think they do a good job of proving that we never went to the moon.
And the rocks on display about 2 miles from my house prove we did, they're definitely not terrestrial, you can tell that simply by the composition and elemental density that most minerals of similar quality form on this planet, sorry sir, it's fail. Though perhaps I'm biased seeing as the majority of my family either works for Nasa or a contractor there of...I'm in on it...dontcha know?
Castle
11-13-2007, 09:55 PM
I do love these theories. Besides the overwhelming physical evidence that I have seen personally and the rather large budgets that were expended over the years of the moon program that far exceeded the cost of a fake proof moon landing studio.........and the thousands of people that would have HAD to be bribed WELL to keep this little secret all these years including the media.....good luck with that!
outside of these pesky little details.....sure I could buy into conspiracy.
this may help too
http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/
many good links at the bottom in case you need more.
-Castle
Of course we didnt go to the moon. The moon doesnt really exist. I think everyone knows that the existence of the moon is a government conspiracy. It is a projection similar to the batman beacon. Duh!
It is a light paid for and developed by the AIPAC. It is based in the nostril of the newly developed Bill Clinton head at Mount Rushmore, also paid for by the AIPAC.
Of course any historical reference to the moon is only the Zionist control of the media and history. ;)
Castle
11-14-2007, 08:22 PM
Of course this never happened but I thought I'd mention it anyway. Exactly 38 years ago today - that would be Nov 14, 1969 Apollo 12 launched and became the 2nd successful moon landing that never happened. heheheh
-Castle
Truth-Bringer
11-18-2007, 11:14 AM
It's also possible that they may have faked the first one just to get the headlines and then had a successful landing later.
Scott
11-18-2007, 11:35 AM
There's a lot of video evidence that the missions were faked.
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There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm
What I hypothesize is that only slow-motion was used in Apollo 11. Later, they improved thier methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.
At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736&q=apollo
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If you look at the acceleration of the object that falls from the astronaut's backpack and the acceleration of the hammer and feather that fall, it's apparant that the there's a difference in the way gravity affects the objects differently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg
Evidently the slow-motion speed is different.
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Here are some videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgID31UpYfA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQj-Mh__fRc&NR=1
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=sgID31UpYfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vENebR5hsRs
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5278489814268946247
This is interesting.
http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/
The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro
Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too. It begins in the second half of the video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2265515730495966561
If you look at the way the flag moves in this clip, it's clear that the astronaut doesn't touch it as the flag moves toward him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4
If he'd touched it, it would have moved away from him.
It's analyzed here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1legw5-gs
I'd like to hear some opinions on the way the flag moves.
There are a lot of plausible alternative scenarios for the moon rocks. All we have are documents that say they are real. If we aren't geologists in a laboratory looking at the rocks, we have no way of varifying that what we read is real.
There may be a lot of scientists who have sold out and are lying about the rocks and we only read what they say.
If there is video evidence that some of the footage was faked, it was probably all faked. Video evidence trumps what some documents or journals say as people can write lies.
Here are some possible scenarios for the rocks.
http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
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Another point here is that the moon rocks were fake. Are the moon rocks real?
No, they are not real. NASA has a well-developed ceramics laboratory with high-temperature ovens-
That's another way NASA could prove they went to the moon, 'cause they brought back these rocks. Interestingly enough, at the University of British Columbia here, David Strangway, the President of U.B.C., was the guy in charge of inspecting the moon rocks.
OK, fine, why don't you call him up and ask him what he thinks about them.
So what happened, the moon rocks were not real?
No, they were manufactured on Earth to look like moon rocks, but since nobody has any moon rocks to compare them with, it's very simple to make up a moon rock and say, hey, this came from the moon.
Well, how would you know it is a moon rock? Like, how do you know it's not a moon rock - how do you know it's a fake?
I had a Seattle geologist who examined moon rocks and he said, "There's no question, Bill, that these rocks were made in a laboratory on Earth."
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http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInfoForScienceChallenge.html
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9) Moon rocks are in Antarctica?
Barbara Cohen, a researcher from the University of New Mexico, was picking up rocks in Antarctica. She sent them to Houston, Texas for an analysis.
The scientists in Houston discovered that one of the Antarctic rocks closely matched the NASA moon rocks.
The scientists then concluded that one of the rocks from Antarctica was actually from the moon:
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6620370/
How did rocks from the moon get in Antarctica?
NASA and Ms. Cohen want us to believe that a big meteor crashed into the moon a while ago, and pieces of the moon were sent flying into space. A few of those pieces landed in Antarctica.
Take a look at how far away the moon is from the earth. If it were true that rocks were ejected from the moon with such velocity that they could escape the moon's gravity and fly out into space, what are the chances that any of them would survive the fall through the atmosphere and land on tiny Antarctica hundreds of thousands of kilometers away? Furthermore, the rock has to land in a location where humans can find it many years later.
A more sensible explanation is that the NASA moon rocks were rocks from Antarctica.
Therefore, when someone travels to Antarctica and sends rock samples to Houston, Texas for analysis, some of the rocks will closely match the Apollo moon rocks.
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Here are some threads by a hoax-believer who seems to have done a lot of research. There's a lot of good stuff here.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11139
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11116&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=11053&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10575&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10576&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10553&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10234&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9659&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9890&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9853&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9661&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9660&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9663&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9690&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9167&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9235&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9436&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8768&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9174&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9338&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9097&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8687&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8984&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8985&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8983&hl=apollo
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=8986&hl=apollo
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I've seen lots of what I'd call conclusive proof that the missions were faked but I've never seen anything I'd call conclusive prooof that they were real. Somebody post something that he or she thinks is conclusive proof that they were real and we can talk about whether it's conclusive proof or not. There are plausible alternative scenarios for the rocks so they aren't conclusive proof.
purplebarney
01-09-2008, 12:42 AM
of course we have been to the moon. The question at hand is more
when did we go to the moon
when armstrong landed. - maybe not
there may or may have not been ulterior motives to stage that first landing but we have been there. so this conspiracy is small
Scott
01-12-2008, 11:13 AM
of course we have been to the moon. The question at hand is more
when did we go to the moon
when armstrong landed. - maybe not
there may or may have not been ulterior motives to stage that first landing but we have been there. so this conspiracy is small
One of the possible reasons for their not going is space radiation. Of course the official version is that it's possible to spend time in space without serious effects from radiation but there's a lot of stuff on the internet that says that's not so. I'm in no position to verify which version is true but the government lies all the time.
Here's some of the stuff I've found about space radiation.
http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
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There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vENebR5hsRs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ65d30kYME
two sets of radiation data
http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldoglebeautaketooooo/id82.html
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To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
to
disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
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http://ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo5.htm
http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInfoForScienceChallenge.html
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9659&hl=apollo
Scott
01-12-2008, 11:28 AM
Here's some more stuff I found.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rhoWabHSm_g
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1gD2P-Po_Gk
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EaV7QB_ReTw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0ohDdNRq2Og
WileE
01-28-2008, 07:05 AM
Didn't anyone ever tell you that life is too short to be wasting it away on silly stuff?
ilikeboobs
01-28-2008, 11:22 AM
Would it be possible to have the Hubble telescope beam in and take a few pictures of the moon's surface so that we can see the proof (the flag and any equipment left behind) that we actually were there?
Just curious...
Aaron Burr
01-31-2008, 12:11 AM
Of course we didn't go to the Moon. How could we? The Moon doesn't exist. Consider the FactTm that sometimes during the month the Moon isn't there. Obviously the Moon is a holographic projection used by the Bush Crime Family to cover up the fact that the Moon was destroyed as a consequence of the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion.
Also, the world is flat and if you sail far enough away from land beware. Here there be monsters looks really cool on the maps, but they mean it.
9sublime
01-31-2008, 06:10 AM
I do believe it is a possibility the first landing was faked only to beat the communists- but the rest of them? No thanks.
Aaron Burr
01-31-2008, 09:52 AM
We (the U.S) landed on the Moon in 1969. Get over it. Denying that simple fact disregards the BILLIONS of hours of human effort that was required to make that landing happen. The only people who profit from believing the landing was faked are the guys selling books about it.
If Hubble was turned towards the Moon, it's optics would be fried. It's designed for deep space observations.
We have a ton of reflective markers and other crap up there, so do the Russians. We'll go back and stand the Flag up once the price of Helium3 makes it a profitable enterprise.
We went, a bunch of times, until people lost interest. They seem interested now though.
Scott
02-05-2008, 06:14 AM
I'd like to hear an analysis from some pro-Apollo people of why the flag moved when the astronaut walked by it at the 2 minute 35 second mark in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4
There's an analysis of it here at the 3 minute 5 second mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1legw5-gs
Aaron Burr
02-08-2008, 11:06 PM
Well, on the one hand, the Moon does have an atmosphere. A very, thin one, full of sodium and other nasty gases from the stanky interior of the Moon, but it's there.
On the other hand, the video focus adjust seems to lag a bit. Commander Scott looked a little out of focus close up, it's possible he brushed the flag, perhaps with his hand.
Helium3 is going to replace lithium in the batteries of hybrid cars. Thats why it's valuable. The Moon's full of it. The 2001 Lunar Prospector mission wasn't faked either. We, as well as other Nations have both Manned and robotic missions planned right around the corner.
The real Space Conspiracy is the Yuri Gargarin one.
pocketfullofshells
02-19-2008, 10:05 PM
I know its a conspiracy, because when ever people have to much time on there hands, and the Internet full of people who can post what ever they want as fact...and act like a "expert" there will be a conspiracy....
Its just that most are dumb wrong and have 10000 more holes then the "conspiracy" they try to put holes in.
Some other great ones
Bin Laden works for the US Government
It was a Missile that hit the Pentagon
Israel was behind the attack on 911
Bush was....
The UN was
Saddam was....
Oklahoma City bombing was really a Giant laser test by the US government
Oklahoma city was a test of using earthquakes as a weapon
Oklahoma City was really a Islamic attack
Oklahoma City was planned by Iraq
The Waco fire was planned by the US government
The Waco fire was a accident but covered up by the government
Fort Knox has no gold
Pearl harbor was known about by the US
the Lusitania sent into German water to get sunk to draw us into WWI
Flight 800 was shot down ....
Madrid Bombings where by Intel services
London Bombings by the Intel services
The Following where all assassinated by Intel Services of one nation or another ( ok most the US lol) JFK ( ok possible on that one But Cuba not the US) MLK, X, Lincoln, Archduke Franz Ferdinand, Diana, JFK JR, Bob Marley, Tupac, Curt Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon,
the 2004 Tsunami
They have the cure for aids
Elvis works for the CIA
and of course...Paul Mccartney died and was replaced by a look alike
All Claim proof, with "experts" who testify to them....
SO I guess everyone important who died...was killed by Intel services, and no bomb has ever gone off from a terrorist ...it was the Intel Services.
Scott
02-22-2008, 06:41 AM
Sorry for the delay; I hadn't checked here for a long time.
Well, on the one hand, the Moon does have an atmosphere. A very, thin one, full of sodium and other nasty gases from the stanky interior of the Moon, but it's there.
There isn't enough atmosphere to cause the flag to move from somebody walking by it.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,901044-3,00.html
On the other hand, the video focus adjust seems to lag a bit. Commander Scott looked a little out of focus close up, it's possible he brushed the flag, perhaps with his hand.
If you look at the beginning of the video when the astronaut is standing right next to the flag, you'll see the size of his arm is much smaller that it is when he walks by the flag and makes it move. He's quite a bit further away.
We, as well as other Nations have both Manned and robotic missions planned right around the corner.
We'll have to wait and see what happens. Did you see what I posted about space radiation in post #11?
http://houseofpolitics.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29401&postcount=11
If it turns out that space radiation was the reason they had to fake it, what we've been reading about a "Return" to the moon is just part of the damage control; they will probably find an excuse to cancel the program before they actually go.
Scott
03-06-2008, 12:48 PM
The documentary "What Happened on the Moon" is back online. It's the best moon-hoax video I've ever seen.
Part 1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3622009579385499503
Part 2
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-3186616594425246748
It usually doesn't stay online for very long so watch it fast; I've seen it go on and offline twice before.
Castle
04-03-2008, 06:13 PM
I'd like to hear an analysis from some pro-Apollo people of why the flag moved when the astronaut walked by it at the 2 minute 35 second mark in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4
There's an analysis of it here at the 3 minute 5 second mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1legw5-gs
This would be the Apollo 15 mission.
I can say this, I also watched them hit a few golf balls on that mission. If they could knock those balls out of the park in those space suits and they were not on the moon - I'd like to know where there were if not a low gravity environment.
arbitor
04-10-2008, 05:13 PM
hahaha. every time i hear about this idea i just laugh. its SO funny to imagine people running around screaming " aghhh! its all a conspiracy! the governments been lieing! we never landed on the moon! auggh omg omg omg!! CONSPIRACY!" lol. you dont honesly believe this do you?
Scott
04-26-2008, 04:16 AM
You're not considering the evidence.
Start watching at the 50 second mark of this clip.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=I_CMgqitv98
This is supposed to be in zero-gravity. Collins' jacket is moving just the way things move in gravity.
n0spam4me
04-26-2008, 04:53 PM
I can understand the intensity of the feelings about this, HOWEVER
PLEASE try to understand, the Bush regime is in the process of screwing AMERICA
big time and we all need to devote our energies to defeating the two headed monster.
One head has the appearance of an elephant and the other the appearance of a donkey.
AMERICA must defeat this monster!
Scott
04-27-2008, 05:23 AM
I can understand the intensity of the feelings about this, HOWEVER
PLEASE try to understand, the Bush regime is in the process of screwing AMERICA
big time and we all need to devote our energies to defeating the two headed monster.
One head has the appearance of an elephant and the other the appearance of a donkey.
AMERICA must defeat this monster!
One reason Bush can get away with so much is that there are so many people who think the government has good intentions and doesn't lie. If we can wake up the people who still think the government never lies on a large scale, it will be a lot harder for Bush to carry out his plans. If people see how they were lied to about Apollo, they might take all the other theories seriously too.
I'm dealing with the other issues too. Here's a thread I started on another forum.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/19724-american-imperialism.html
I've started that same thread on several forums.
I got banned for starting this thread.
http://forums.hypography.com/strange-claims-forum/14078-9-11-inside-job.html
I feel like I'm doing my part.
Scott
05-10-2008, 01:51 PM
Here's something I just found.
Look at the way the corners of the jacket the woman astronaut is wearing behave in zero-gravity.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4
(first 10 seconds and last 30 seconds)
It's pretty different from the way the corner of Collins' jacket behaves.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=I_CMgqitv98
(50 second mark)
n0spam4me
05-11-2008, 10:38 AM
Please forgive me for not joining in, I don't want to debate if we went to the moon or not, and just my bit on the subject, this serves only as at distraction and a waste of energy to debate if we went to the moon, when in fact we have VERY important questions to ask ...
like WHY did the Commander in Chief sit on his ass in a photo-op after being informed that AMERICA was under attack?
But thats just my bit here....
Scott
05-16-2008, 10:51 AM
Please forgive me for not joining in, I don't want to debate if we went to the moon or not, and just my bit on the subject, this serves only as at distraction and a waste of energy to debate if we went to the moon, when in fact we have VERY important questions to ask ...
like WHY did the Commander in Chief sit on his ass in a photo-op after being informed that AMERICA was under attack?
One reason I want to show people that Apollo was a hoax is to wake them up to the fact that the US government is capable of telling gigantic lies so they will be more open to the idea that 9/11 was an inside job.
Here's some stuff I send to people in order to convince them that 9/11 was an inside job.
http://www.question911.com/linksall.htm
(Be sure to watch "Painful Deceptions")
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8989407671184881047&q=9%2F11
peoplespartyguy65
05-16-2008, 05:35 PM
If we didn't go to the moon please explain to me the explosion of technology we had during that period of time?
revolution4PAUL
05-17-2008, 02:01 AM
If we didn't go to the moon please explain to me the explosion of technology we had during that period of time?
^^^^LOL, lots of scientists, engineers and HUGE PAYCHECKS!! LOL^^^
http://youtube.com/watch?v=G29WT2_y1-E&feature=related
If you watch this clip I would like for you to answer this question. My question- Say you figure the astronaut weighs 270lbs total(180lbs for himself and say his space suit/equipment weighs 90lbs) and the moons gravity is 1/6th that of earth or equal to 0.1666666... than he would only weigh a total of ~46lbs(270lbs X 0.166...) on the moon, how come he can only jump up like two feet?
I would have to imagine that they would easily be able to jump 4 or 5 feet up with 1/6 of earths gravity, but i have never been to the moon and this is just and educated guess.
What does anyone else think about this logic? Should this be considered evidence?
Scott
05-17-2008, 04:26 AM
I would have to imagine that they would easily be able to jump 4 or 5 feet up with 1/6 of earths gravity, but i have never been to the moon and this is just and educated guess.
What does anyone else think about this logic? Should this be considered evidence?
I'm no expert but when I look at the formulas for height and range of trajectories in this link...
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/traj.html
...it looks like he should be able to jump a lot higher than he jumps in that video.
A pretty good case is made for a combination of wire supports and slow-motion to fake moon gravity in this clip.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
I saw a YouTube video made by Jarrah White which I can't find now. He said the slow-motion in that clip was about sixty seven percent.
9sublime
05-17-2008, 05:27 AM
I'm no expert
Exactly.
peoplespartyguy65
05-17-2008, 12:13 PM
The reason the astronauts only jumped around about 2 feet high is because of the low gravity. They had to stay in control for fear of jumping off of the moon. Also if we did not have the race for the moon a lot of the communication technology that we take for granted today would not exist.
Scott
05-18-2008, 05:02 AM
There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm
What I hypothesize is that only slow-motion was used in Apollo 11. Later, they improved thier methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. Jarrah White says it's 67 percent. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.
At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736&q=apollo
It can also bee seen in this video at around the 30 minute 55 second mark.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-7335269088210976286
It looks just like movement in earth gravity. To fake lunar gravity during Apollo 11 they used a crude half speed slow-motion.
There's a ton of video evidence that the missions were faked. One of the most damning pieces of evidence is this clip of the flag being moved by air when the astronaut walks past it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4
(2 minute 35 second mark)
Why doesn't some pro-Apollo person post something he considers to be conclusive proof that they went to the moon and we can talk about whether it's really proof.
Scott
07-26-2008, 06:13 AM
Here are some videos if anyone wants to delve further.
http://es.youtube.com/results?search_query=moonfaker&search_type=&aq=f
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