FDR - Franklin D. Roosevelt

palerider · Mar 10, 2007

May Day would be the appropriate day to honor FDR. The man was a socialist. He began the socialst movement in the US that led irrevocably to the generational dependence on government handouts that we see, and have seen destroy so many lives since it began.

The priciples of individual liberty and limited government began their fall with FDR. He created cracks in those foundational pillars of that simply could not be repaired. He was the epitome of big government and the spring from which the mindset still exists today.

In short, the man was a socialist/communist and this country will never be more than a faint ghost of what it could have been but for the destructive effect of his socialist policies. The welfare state that he created has eroded all but the last lingering shreds of the rugged individualism that this country was founded on and as a nation, we will always be less than we could have been because of it.

vyo476 · Apr 11, 2007

Archangelwolf, I wonder if it bothers you at all that it was not FDR's policies, but rather the mobilization of America for WWII, that pulled America out of the depression. The American people asked Hoover to help them and he didn't; they asked FDR to help them and he made a lot of noise to cover the fact that he wasn't really helping them a whole lot. Lucky for him that the Germans bailed him out of that one.

Jason76 · Aug 7, 2015

I'm not really sure the "New Deal" got the United States out of the depression. In reality, the massive spending from World War II pushed the nation out. However, I think the "New Deal" made a huge difference. Ultimately, the lasting legacy of FDR was the laws designed to protect banking and finance from corruption. At least one such law was eventually repealed, and it lead to the 2008 crash.

dogtowner · Aug 7, 2015

Jason76 said:
I'm not really sure the "New Deal" got the United States out of the depression. In reality, the massive spending from World War II pushed the nation out. However, I think the "New Deal" made a huge difference. Ultimately, the lasting legacy of FDR was the laws designed to protect banking and finance from corruption. At least one such law was eventually repealed, and it lead to the 2008 crash.

Well half right Jason. FDR prolonged the depression.

Jason76 · Aug 14, 2015

FDR enacted laws which would have prevented the 2008 crash, had right wingers not repealed them. In fact, these right wingers even got Bill Clinton on their side. One such law prohibited bankers from investing in the stock market.

dogtowner · Aug 14, 2015

Jason76 said:
FDR enacted laws which would have prevented the 2008 crash, had right wingers not repealed them. In fact, these right wingers even got Bill Clinton on their side. One such law prohibited bankers from investing in the stock market.

If Frank Raines had followed his own policy 2008 would not have happened.

Jason76 · Aug 20, 2015

Here's something funny. Frank Raines real name is Franklin Delano Raines.

Anyhow, I still thing the root of the problem was the repeal of New Deal prohibitions on certain types of banking.

dogtowner · Aug 20, 2015

Jason76 said:
Here's something funny. Frank Raines real name is Franklin Delano Raines. Anyhow, I still thing the root of the problem was the repeal of New Deal prohibitions on certain types of banking.

Didn't know that about Raines, thanks.
They did a good job selling Glass repeal but I just don't see it. It requires assumptions while guys ignoring law and policy is undeniablE fact.

Jason76 · Sep 2, 2015

I don't see anything wrong with using government cash for education. However, it often finances a lifestyle of "under the table" earning and less often, laziness. Government money should come with the condition that the user should try to improve himself.

nailah783 · Oct 3, 2015

Archangelwolf said:
In my opinion, Franklin Roosevelt was the BEST President. Before I explain why, I must reiterate that we can not judge a President on what happened 40 years after he left office. That is not a fair assessment; because ANY President would change their actions if they had a crystal ball. In fact, in FDR's case, I think he would have GIVEN UP office if he had a crystal ball. But I digress....

The reason that FDR is my favorite President is because, in the beginning days of his administration, he just let loose. Yes, there was concern that some of the things he was doing to get us out of the depression was unconstitutional; but he knew that the people did not care. Desperate times call for desperate measures; and FDR rolled up his sleeves, and went to work. The American people elected him to office because they wanted results; and he was prepared to deliver.

I am glad that the Supreme Court overturned some of his bills; because I do believe in our Judicial system, and I do believe that had he been TOO successful, corruption would have been inevitable. We must have checks and balances to secure our government's accountability; which is one reason I have been so concerned about our CURRENT administration.

FDR was willing to try ANYTHING to relieve the American people; and lead them. It is THIS kind of person that I have much respect for in politics in EITHER party. This country has not had a real leader since Reagan; and that is obvious by all of the division we now experience. It is very dissappointing and disheartening. However, there is hope.

I have heard a lot about Obama; but in all honesty, as much as it pains me to make this assessment, America is not ready for a biracial President. I do not see him winning. The most unifying candidate for the American people that I see is Rudolph Guiliani; but he will alienate the far-right, because of his soft beliefs on homosexuality and abortion; thus, the Republican Party may not even nominate him.

I am hoping that someone arises; but our current political situation may prevent it.

That is my 2c

Arch.

I wonder what you think now after Obama's presidency, since you thought he would never get into office. I think FDR was a great president too. He came in during difficult times, and worked to fix the issues that the country was already in. I think that a lot of people don't give credit to the people that come in after we're already in a bad place, and attempt to make things better. Anyway, what are your thoughts on the current state of the country?

dogtowner · Oct 3, 2015

nailah783 said:
I wonder what you think now after Obama's presidency, since you thought he would never get into office. I think FDR was a great president too. He came in during difficult times, and worked to fix the issues that the country was already in. I think that a lot of people don't give credit to the people that come in after we're already in a bad place, and attempt to make things better. Anyway, what are your thoughts on the current state of the country?

But things did not get better for FDR's efforts nor BOs. Mainly They Were NOT INTENDED to. But friends of both are far richer.

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