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On June 4-6, 1942, American naval forces in the Battle of Midway destroyed Japan's four front-line aircraft carriers and other ships, resulting in the Japanese reverting to a defensive role for the rest of the Pacific war, never to make another offensive attack; and starting the long road to their eventual defeat in 1945.

Two major factors led to the American victory:

1.) Decryption of secret Japanese radio codes that enabled the Americans to find out details of the oncoming Japanese attack;
2.) Incredible courage of the pilots of American torpedo bombers on June 4, who found themselves attacking front-line Japanese ships defended by highly-trained, experienced pilots flying vastly superior Zero fighters. The American torpedo bombers nonetheless pressed home their attacks, and were virtally wiped out while scoring NO torpedo hits on the ships... but served to draw the Japanese fighters down to low altitude and allowing higher-altitude dive bombers unopposed access to the Japanese carriers, sinking three and getting the fourth one a day later. Due to problems during launch and ensuing radio silence, the torpedo bomber pilots could not have known of the timely approach of the American dive bombers, which makes their selfless sacrifice even more amazingly heroic.

Six Japanese carriers had attacked Pearl harbor to draw America into the war. Two of them were damage a few months later in the Battle of the Coral Sea, ands so were not included in the Midway attack. Of the four carriers America had (fortunately not in port on Dec. 7, 1941), one (Lexington) was sunk in the Coral Sea battle and another (Yorktown) damaged. Unlike the Japanese, the Americans patched the Yorktown together to enable it to fight at Midway, where it was eventually sunk after delivering air strikes on the four Japanese carriers.

Damage control on the Yorktown, decryption of the secret Japanese radio codes, and above all the incredible courage and sacrifice of the American torpedo bombers from the carriers Yorktown, Hornet, and Enterprise turned the tide of the battle. The Japanese called off their invasion of Midway, and their forces never recovered from the loss of their four front-line carriers and all their squadrons of seasoned, experienced fighter and bomber aircraft and crews.
 
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a great victory albeit at a terrible cost. freedom isnt free, something we all need to remember. not the least that moron at MSNBC who infamously defamed our service men and women.
 
On June 4-6, 1942, American naval forces in the Battle of Midway destroyed Japan's four front-line aircraft carriers and other ships, resulting in the Japanese reverting to a defensive role for the rest of the Pacific war, never to make another offensive attack; and starting the long road to their eventual defeat in 1945.

Two major factors led to the American victory:

1.) Decryption of secret Japanese radio codes that enabled the Americans to find out details of the oncoming Japanese attack;
2.) Incredible courage of the pilots of American torpedo bombers on June 4, who found themselves attacking front-line Japanese ships defended by highly-trained, experienced pilots flying vastly superior Zero fighters. The American torpedo bombers nonetheless pressed home their attacks, and were virtally wiped out while scoring NO torpedo hits on the ships... but served to draw the Japanese fighters down to low altitude and allowing higher-altitude dive bombers unopposed access to the Japanese carriers, sinking three and getting the fourth one a day later. Due to problems during launch and ensuing radio silence, the torpedo bomber pilots could not have known of the timely approach of the American dive bombers, which makes their selfless sacrifice even more amazingly heroic.

Six Japanese carriers had attacked Pearl harbor to draw America into the war. Two of them were damage a few months later in the Battle of the Coral Sea, ands so were not included in the Midway attack. Of the four carriers America had (fortunately not in port on Dec. 7, 1941), one (Lexington) was sunk in the Coral Sea battle and another (Yorktown) damaged. Unlike the Japanese, the Americans patched the Yorktown together to enable it to fight at Midway, where it was eventually sunk after delivering air strikes on the four Japanese carriers.

Damage control on the Yorktown, decryption of the secret Japanese radio codes, and above all the incredible courage and sacrifice of the American torpedo bombers from the carriers Yorktown, Hornet, and Enterprise turned the tide of the battle. The Japanese called off their invasion of Midway, and their forces never recovered from the loss of their four front-line carriers and all their squadrons of seasoned, experienced fighter and bomber aircraft and crews.


What a tremendous victory that was. It sealed the fate of Imperial Japan.

This is a new book on WWII. I heard the author interviewed and he makes a compelling case for how America won WWII. His main point is we won because of guess what? CAPITALISM!!! When Stalin's Stooge (FDR) realized he needed American industry to build the military hardware necessary to fight a world war, he called on the leaders of American industry (whom he had demonized for years). American industry was allowed to build the munitions needed without government interference, while making a profit.

Keep in mind America in early 1940, essentially had no military. And yet, five years later had destroyed the Axis and was the world's undisputed superpower.


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The author argues powerfully against the conventional wisdom that America’s rearmament took place under the guidance of a competent federal government that brought business and labor together for the country’s defense. To the dismay of New Dealers who had hoped to use the war to bring business under government control, the production of the flood of war materiel that drowned the Axis was achieved by the voluntary cooperation of businesses driven as much by the profit motive as by patriotism, solving problems through their own ingenuity rather than waiting for government directives.
 
Keep in mind America in early 1940, essentially had no military. And yet, five years later had destroyed the Axis and was the world's undisputed superpower.
At that time, America actually had a pretty good Navy, centered mostly around battleships and submarines, with four aircraft carriers.

Japan took care of the battleships at Pearl harbor, knocking them ALL out of action. Some were later repaired and fought back. Fortunately the four aircraft carriers were not at Pearl on Dec. 7.

Four years later, we had 50 aircraft carriers.

Submarines carried most of the early Pacific war, sinking Japanese warships and cargo carriers. Carrier raids were mostly bee-stings, until Midway.
 
At that time, America actually had a pretty good Navy, centered mostly around battleships and submarines, with four aircraft carriers.

Japan took care of the battleships at Pearl harbor, knocking them ALL out of action. Some were later repaired and fought back. Fortunately the four aircraft carriers were not at Pearl on Dec. 7.

Four years later, we had 50 aircraft carriers.

Submarines carried most of the early Pacific war, sinking Japanese warships and cargo carriers. Carrier raids were mostly bee-stings, until Midway.

Yes I suppose we had a decent navy, but not much else.


When the European war began in earnest on September 1, 1939, with the German invasion of Poland, the U.S. Army ranked seventeenth among armies of the world in size and combat power, just behind Romania. It numbered 190,000 soldiers. (It would grow to 8.3 million in 1945, a 44-fold increase.) When mobilization began in 1940, the Army had only 14,000 professional officers. The average age of majors—a middling rank, between captain and lieutenant colonel—was nearly 48; in the National Guard, nearly one-quarter of first lieutenants were over 40 years old, and the senior ranks were dominated by political hacks of certifiable military incompetence. Not a single officer on duty in 1941 had commanded a unit as large as a division in World War I. At the time of Pearl Harbor, in December 1941, only one American division was on a full war footing.
Some American coastal defense guns had not been test fired in 20 years, and the Army lacked enough antiaircraft guns to protect even a single American city. The senior British military officer in Washington told London that American forces “are more unready for war than it is possible to imagine.” In May 1940, the month that the German Blitzkrieg swept through the Low Countries and overran France, the U.S. Army owned a total of 464 tanks, mostly puny light tanks with the combat power of a coffee can.
http://www.fpri.org/footnotes/1415.200905.atkinson.usarmywwii.html
 
Yes I suppose we had a decent navy, but not much else.
We in Australia are grateful for the American at the Battle of Midway and Coral Sea. However we also had Australians turning the Japanese back In New Guniea. I think many countries were responsible for the defeat of Japan. They were not all Capitalist but I agree the mixed economies ensure the richest country had the better weapons.

As to who won WW2. This is debatable, Russian gained most territory although it has lost a lot since. I think in the end no one country wins a war.
 
The Japanese navy was at a considerable disadvantage because the radar system was unknown to the Japanese as they only relied on reconnaissance flights while American radar could detect the approaching enemy as far as 30 miles. The Germans lost the Battle of Britain in the same manner as Britain developed the sophisticated radar system to counter German air raids on British cities and the RAF could shoot down more German fighters thanks to the technological edge.
 
The Japanese navy was at a considerable disadvantage because the radar system was unknown to the Japanese as they only relied on reconnaissance flights while American radar could detect the approaching enemy as far as 30 miles. The Germans lost the Battle of Britain in the same manner as Britain developed the sophisticated radar system to counter German air raids on British cities and the RAF could shoot down more German fighters thanks to the technological edge.

Very good points. In addition, the USA had broken Jap communications and the Brits had broken the Germans. Certainly these things helped the war effort immensely.

Regarding radar, I believe the USA did not have an effective radar system when attacked on Dec 7th. I do not know if by the time of the Battle of Midway it was effective.

Welcome to the HOP.
 
We did have effective radar on our naval ships at the time of the Battle of Midway which allowed our forces considerable advantages. The Japs did not have radar and when we hit their carriers their decks were fully loaded with planes fully armed and below decks they had failed to return unused ordnance to their magazine. They also had failed to keep spotter planes in the air to detect incoming US planes. The result was their carriers sink quickly and with much lose of life.

Our breaking their code and use of radar gave us tremendous advantages, even though our planes were badly out matched by the Jap Zero. Getting the Yorktown battle ready a few days after suffering big hits, also played a part.

Here is a very interesting read on the battle.

http://www.redstate.com/neil_stevens/2012/06/05/midway-the-forgotten-victory/
 
70 years ago these taxes didnt excist

The inheritance tax.
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