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A Change We May Not Like

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Greco, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. Greco

    Greco New Member

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    We're going through an escalating evolution in our nation and as a society and we may not like the outcome. It has become mainstream and common to assign derogatory labels to individuals we disagree with. Daily, the AM radio hate mongers fuel the fire, convincing individuals like Newt Gingrich, who should know better, that's it's now publicly acceptable to demean and defame with impunity. On political message board sites it's common to find racial slurs of the most offensive nature and they always attract a "me too" chorus. We have an absolute hunger to bring out the worst in people and give them a forum to spew out their hate.

    Combining that with America's burning quest to arm ourselves with all varieties of weaponry and encourage everyone to bring their weapons to public parks, the malls, even church, doesn't seem like such a good formula. There are legions that oppose even the most cursory examination of anyone wanting a weapon capable of mass mayhem, preferring to simply allow anyone to go to a flea market and obtain their weapon of choice with no regard for mental stability or rational thought. We're not improving our lives to divide and demean each other. We're not improving our nation to encourage rage and hatred towards each other. Yet we elect individuals that are defined by just those actions. Here in Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern is a textbook example. Her YouTube rants always draw a crowd.

    We're now living in a nation where an 88 year old man could no longer keep his hatred and rage inside and showed up armed, with the intent to kill people at a museum. Absent of a change back towards reasonableness and civility, these acts will not only continue, they're destined to increase.
     
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    So far I dont like any of the changes
     
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    Greco - This change comes with Obama. He has destroyed the economy and
    many people are no longer happy. It's called change yet they dare not complain
    to a great extent.

    But even before Obama, the hatred towards George Bush was on display.
    Do you remember the false accusations and how the liberal news media
    ran news everyday about how bad the Bush economy was? Yet the unemployment rate was less than 5% and still the liberals and democrats were screaming bloody murder.

    Now the real unemployment rate exceeds 16% but you wouldn't know it, because the news stories are absent. There is a bad problem in the US know and
    the news media acts like nothing is wrong. I don't hear the liberals complaining now.

    When was the last time Chysler went bankrupt and sold out to an Italian company?

    Well it happened recently due to Obama's socialist policies.

    His change you can't spend but you can feel the pain.
     
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    The topic was not about the economy. However, no intelligent person blames Obama for the state of the economy. It happened on Bush's watch. It was Bush's policies. They even started the financial bailouts on Bush's watch. Bush was criticized for policies like starting a needless war based on 100% false claims and being incompetent.
     
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    Come to think of it, Clinton was not treated very civily. Nor was Carter.
     
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    If Bush made mistakes, by your own admittance, then why did Obama follow in his footsteps, but at a faster pace?

    It doesn't make sense.

    Bush did some things wrong .. agreed.
    Obama doing everything wrong ... un-deniable!!!
     
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    Clinton was attacked every day by talk radio, but the main stream media was pretty ok with him.

    Carter was before talk radio and the media lived and died by him. They reported what was going on but never in a bad light to him. today he is trashed but not while he was president.
     
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    The media loved Reagan.

    Where I find issue with this is the idea that this is anything new. From what I read, the unity many of us grew up with in the 1940s and 1950s was unusual for America. From the very earliest days, people opposed each other, tooth and nail. The Tories were driven out of our naiton, back to Canada, or back to Britain., and their land was seized. That was usually the fate of the political losers. The Federalists did all they could too drive Jefferson and his adherents out, but failed (re Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798), and lost control.
     
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    "Bush did some things wrong .. agreed. Obama doing everything wrong ... un-deniable!!!"

    Oh it's certainly deniable. Obama is doing things different from Bush. That's not wrong. It's smart. He's doing things that the Republicans didn't do. The crowd in control that caused all the problems. That's not wrong. It's smart.

    But on the subject of "wrong". It's a laughable understatement to claim "Bush did some things wrong." He's the worst president in the history of our nation. Not since Roosevelt came in to fix the Republican created mess has any president ever inherited more critical problems on more fronts than Obama. Republicans had the most of eight years with free reign. Now it's time to fix the mess.
     
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    Not sure why you think the media loved Reagan, they constantly had bad stories about him and his wife. He had to resort to what they call the bully pulpit to connect directly to the voters and by pass the media all together.
     
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