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A defensive/offensive military?

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Dr.Who, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. Dr.Who

    Dr.Who Well-Known Member

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    Our founders envisioned a military that was purely defensive. Yet today it has been accused of being largely imperialistic and engaging in numerous offensive wars.

    Could we do with a military that is just defensive?
     
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    Depends on what you mean by "defensive."
     
  3. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Defensive, ONLY??!!!!!!

    :eek:

    How're The CHICKENHAWKS gonna prove-their-manhood with a (strictly) DEfensive-military??!!!!!

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    BigRob Well-Known Member

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    Care to offer your definition of "defensive"? Or would you prefer to continue adding nothing?
     
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    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    If a limited-vocabulary is your issue, do your own work.

    Baby-sitting you is counter-productive.....

    :rolleyes:
     
  6. BigRob

    BigRob Well-Known Member

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    Apparently the nuances of the issue are beyond you.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    Best defence is a good offense.

    Afghanistan was Defensive

    Iraq 1...Defense of our Ally

    Bosnia...Defense of stopping Genocide

    Korea...Defense of Korea ( S)

    Nam...Defense of S vietnam ally.

    WWII...Defense

    WWI...Defense of allies


    Only Iraq II< panama, and Gernada would be the exeptions....
     
  8. Dr.Who

    Dr.Who Well-Known Member

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    A defensive war is one of the causes that justify war by the criteria of the Just War tradition. It means a war where one nation is mainly trying to defend itself from another, as opposed to a war where both sides are trying to invade and conquer each other.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_war

    The relevant principles from the "just war" tradition are:


    They attacked us first
    They are about to attack us first (let's debate this one as it is not a part of the original just war tradition)
    It is not a futile cause - there is a chance of success
    It is the last resort
    The benefits are proportional to the expected evil or harms of war itself.
    It is for a right intention, ie correcting a wrong like defending another country
     
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    TheFranklinParty New Member

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    Imperialism suggests that we take over the lands we invade and reap the spoils of their resources. This is far from our mode of operation. If anything we end up spending money and resources everywhere we go.

    Should we be there? That is a whole different question.
     
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