After permitting funding for Emb stemcell research, Obama bans it once again

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On Monday, March 9, President Obama signed an Executive order that lifted previous Pres. Bush's order banning Federal funds from being used in research that killed new human embryos for their stem cells.

Two days later, Obama signed the Omnibus Spending Bill into law. It contained a passage that has been in every such bill since 1996, forbidding such funding once again. Since Obama's Executive Order said that funding would be restored only to the extent permitted by law, that means that this spending bill's ban on funds, supersedes any permission in the Exec Order.

Apparently Congressmen on both sides knew the passage was in the bill, and did nothing to change it or take it out, despite large Democrat majorities in both houses of Congress.

When does "change we can believe in" start, anyway?

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http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=44943

Obama Signs Law Banning Federal Embryo Research Two Days After Signing Executive Order to OK It

By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
Friday, March 13, 2009

President Barack Obama (AP Photo) (CNSNews.com) - On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush’s executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicilty bans federal funding of any "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

The provision was buried in the 465-page omnibus appropriations bill that Obama signed Wednesday. Known as the Dickey-Wicker amendment, it has been included in the annual appropriations bill for the Department of Health and Human Services every fiscal year since 1996.

The amendment says, in part: "None of the funds made available in this Act may be used for—(1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research purposes; or (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

Found in Section 509 of Title V of the omnibus bill (at page 280 of the 465-page document), the federal funding ban not only prohibits the government from providing tax dollars to support research that kills or risks injury to a human embryo, it also mandates that the government use an all-inclusive definition of “human embryo” that encompasses any nascent human life from the moment that life comes into being, even if created in a laboratory through cloning, in vitro fertilization or any other means.

(snip)

At a widely publicized White House ceremony on Monday, President Obama signed his own executive order lifting an executive order that President Bush had signed in 2001. While allowing federal funding of research involving embryonic stem cell lines that had already been created from embryos that had already been destroyed, Bush's 2001 order denied federal funding to research that required the killing of any additional embryos.

(snip)

Close observers on both sides of the embryonic stem cell issue were well aware of the Dickey-Wicker amendment, and understood that it would pose a legal obstacle to federal funding of embryo-killing research even if President Obama issued an executive order reversing President Bush's administrative policy denying federal funding to that research.


(Full text of the article can be read at the URL listed above)
 
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On Monday, March 9, President Obama signed an Executive order that lifted previous Pres. Bush's order banning Federal funds from being used in research that killed new human embryos for their stem cells.

Two days later, Obama signed the Omnibus Spending Bill into law. It contained a passage that has been in every such bill since 1996, forbidding such funding once again. Since Obama's Executive Order said that funding would be restored only to the extent permitted by law, that means that this spending bill's ban on funds, supersedes any permission in the Exec Order.

Apparently Congressmen on both sides knew the passage was in the bill, and did nothing to change it or take it out, despite large Democrat majorities in both houses of Congress.

When does "change we can believe in" start, anyway?

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http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=44943

Obama Signs Law Banning Federal Embryo Research Two Days After Signing Executive Order to OK It

By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
Friday, March 13, 2009

President Barack Obama (AP Photo) (CNSNews.com) - On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush’s executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicilty bans federal funding of any "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

The provision was buried in the 465-page omnibus appropriations bill that Obama signed Wednesday. Known as the Dickey-Wicker amendment, it has been included in the annual appropriations bill for the Department of Health and Human Services every fiscal year since 1996.

The amendment says, in part: "None of the funds made available in this Act may be used for—(1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research purposes; or (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

Found in Section 509 of Title V of the omnibus bill (at page 280 of the 465-page document), the federal funding ban not only prohibits the government from providing tax dollars to support research that kills or risks injury to a human embryo, it also mandates that the government use an all-inclusive definition of “human embryo” that encompasses any nascent human life from the moment that life comes into being, even if created in a laboratory through cloning, in vitro fertilization or any other means.

(snip)

At a widely publicized White House ceremony on Monday, President Obama signed his own executive order lifting an executive order that President Bush had signed in 2001. While allowing federal funding of research involving embryonic stem cell lines that had already been created from embryos that had already been destroyed, Bush's 2001 order denied federal funding to research that required the killing of any additional embryos.

(snip)

Close observers on both sides of the embryonic stem cell issue were well aware of the Dickey-Wicker amendment, and understood that it would pose a legal obstacle to federal funding of embryo-killing research even if President Obama issued an executive order reversing President Bush's administrative policy denying federal funding to that research.


(Full text of the article can be read at the URL listed above)

Why this wasn't on the liberal media? Oh wait, I know why..... :D
 
I guess they don't want to fund research that has not produced any results at the expense of adult stem cell research that has produced lots and lots of results. I am sure that the moral issue is irrelevant as far as they are concerned.
 
On Monday, March 9, President Obama signed an Executive order that lifted previous Pres. Bush's order banning Federal funds from being used in research that killed new human embryos for their stem cells.

Two days later, Obama signed the Omnibus Spending Bill into law. It contained a passage that has been in every such bill since 1996, forbidding such funding once again. Since Obama's Executive Order said that funding would be restored only to the extent permitted by law, that means that this spending bill's ban on funds, supersedes any permission in the Exec Order.

Apparently Congressmen on both sides knew the passage was in the bill, and did nothing to change it or take it out, despite large Democrat majorities in both houses of Congress.

When does "change we can believe in" start, anyway?

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http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=44943

Obama Signs Law Banning Federal Embryo Research Two Days After Signing Executive Order to OK It

By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
Friday, March 13, 2009

President Barack Obama (AP Photo) (CNSNews.com) - On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush’s executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicilty bans federal funding of any "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

The provision was buried in the 465-page omnibus appropriations bill that Obama signed Wednesday. Known as the Dickey-Wicker amendment, it has been included in the annual appropriations bill for the Department of Health and Human Services every fiscal year since 1996.

The amendment says, in part: "None of the funds made available in this Act may be used for—(1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research purposes; or (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

Found in Section 509 of Title V of the omnibus bill (at page 280 of the 465-page document), the federal funding ban not only prohibits the government from providing tax dollars to support research that kills or risks injury to a human embryo, it also mandates that the government use an all-inclusive definition of “human embryo” that encompasses any nascent human life from the moment that life comes into being, even if created in a laboratory through cloning, in vitro fertilization or any other means.

(snip)

At a widely publicized White House ceremony on Monday, President Obama signed his own executive order lifting an executive order that President Bush had signed in 2001. While allowing federal funding of research involving embryonic stem cell lines that had already been created from embryos that had already been destroyed, Bush's 2001 order denied federal funding to research that required the killing of any additional embryos.

(snip)

Close observers on both sides of the embryonic stem cell issue were well aware of the Dickey-Wicker amendment, and understood that it would pose a legal obstacle to federal funding of embryo-killing research even if President Obama issued an executive order reversing President Bush's administrative policy denying federal funding to that research.


(Full text of the article can be read at the URL listed above)
So funny. It just shows everyone what a joke this president is.

He was not ready to be the President and it shows. Signing bills without reading them.

That's great.
 
At this rate, do you realize just how badly Republicans will have to suck, to lose the 2012 elections?

I'm not saying they can't do it - they were racking up quite a record for miserable liberal legislation themselves for a while. But the bar is being set VERY high (or low) by the Obama administration - and all in the first two months of the administration.
 
At this rate, do you realize just how badly Republicans will have to suck, to lose the 2012 elections?

I'm not saying they can't do it - they were racking up quite a record for miserable liberal legislation themselves for a while. But the bar is being set VERY high (or low) by the Obama administration - and all in the first two months of the administration.

The American people know that the pubs are just as statist - just that they don't promise an impossible chicken in every pot.

Also, I suspect that in the next four years Obama will let things mellow out a bit. He will get tons of what he wants now and then slow it down. Americans are a pretty dump and forgetful lot.
 
On Monday, March 9, President Obama signed an Executive order that lifted previous Pres. Bush's order banning Federal funds from being used in research that killed new human embryos for their stem cells.

Two days later, Obama signed the Omnibus Spending Bill into law. It contained a passage that has been in every such bill since 1996, forbidding such funding once again. Since Obama's Executive Order said that funding would be restored only to the extent permitted by law, that means that this spending bill's ban on funds, supersedes any permission in the Exec Order.

Apparently Congressmen on both sides knew the passage was in the bill, and did nothing to change it or take it out, despite large Democrat majorities in both houses of Congress.

When does "change we can believe in" start, anyway?

---------------------------------------

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=44943

Obama Signs Law Banning Federal Embryo Research Two Days After Signing Executive Order to OK It

By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
Friday, March 13, 2009

President Barack Obama (AP Photo) (CNSNews.com) - On Wednesday, only two days after he lifted President Bush’s executive order banning federal funding of stem cell research that requires the destruction of human embryos, President Barack Obama signed a law that explicilty bans federal funding of any "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

The provision was buried in the 465-page omnibus appropriations bill that Obama signed Wednesday. Known as the Dickey-Wicker amendment, it has been included in the annual appropriations bill for the Department of Health and Human Services every fiscal year since 1996.

The amendment says, in part: "None of the funds made available in this Act may be used for—(1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research purposes; or (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death."

Found in Section 509 of Title V of the omnibus bill (at page 280 of the 465-page document), the federal funding ban not only prohibits the government from providing tax dollars to support research that kills or risks injury to a human embryo, it also mandates that the government use an all-inclusive definition of “human embryo” that encompasses any nascent human life from the moment that life comes into being, even if created in a laboratory through cloning, in vitro fertilization or any other means.

(snip)

At a widely publicized White House ceremony on Monday, President Obama signed his own executive order lifting an executive order that President Bush had signed in 2001. While allowing federal funding of research involving embryonic stem cell lines that had already been created from embryos that had already been destroyed, Bush's 2001 order denied federal funding to research that required the killing of any additional embryos.

(snip)

Close observers on both sides of the embryonic stem cell issue were well aware of the Dickey-Wicker amendment, and understood that it would pose a legal obstacle to federal funding of embryo-killing research even if President Obama issued an executive order reversing President Bush's administrative policy denying federal funding to that research.


(Full text of the article can be read at the URL listed above)

CNS News is founded by well known right winger Brent Bozell, he loves putting out misinformation.

Here's what's happening... creation of stem cell lines-currently not funded but embryonic stem cell research IS now funded.

From the NYT 3-8

The ban, known as the Dickey-Wicker amendment, first became law in 1996, and has been renewed by Congress every year since. It specifically bans the use of tax dollars to create human embryos — a practice that is routine in private fertility clinics — or for research in which embryos are destroyed, discarded or knowingly subjected to risk of injury.

At first, the ban stood in the way of taxpayer-financed embryonic stem cell research, because embryos are destroyed when stem cells are extracted from them. But in August 2001, in a careful compromise, President Bush opened the door a tiny crack, by ordering that tax dollars could be used for studies on a small number of lines, or colonies, of stem cells already extracted from embryos — so long as federal researchers did not do the extraction themselves.

On Monday, Mr. Obama will throw open the door much farther with an executive order that will “make clear that the government intends to support” human embryonic stem cell research, said Harold Varmus, the president of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, who advises Mr. Obama on science matters.

To the delight of patients’ groups and scientists, the order will allow research on hundreds of stem cell lines already in existence, as well as ones yet to be created, typically from embryos left over from fertility treatments that would otherwise be discarded.

The order comes just in time for researchers to take advantage of money in Mr. Obama’s economic recovery package and use it for stem cell studies. But because of the Dickey-Wicker amendment, federal researchers would still be unable to create their own stem cell lines
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CNS News is founded by well known right winger Brent Bozell, he loves putting out misinformation.

Here's what's happening... creation of stem cell lines-currently not funded but embryonic stem cell research IS now funded.

From the NYT 3-8

so they are only going to slice and dice the current ones they have but not create to destroy new ones?

That is not as good as the first story but better than the full blown create to destroy

ugh!
 
so they are only going to slice and dice the current ones they have but not create to destroy new ones?

That is not as good as the first story but better than the full blown create to destroy

ugh!

Slice and dice what? We're talking about left over embryos from IVF clinics, nothing more than a bunch of cells. They are going to be thrown away anyway...is that what you would prefer?
 
Slice and dice what? We're talking about left over embryos from IVF clinics, nothing more than a bunch of cells. They are going to be thrown away anyway...is that what you would prefer?

Are these embryos alive? Yes
Are they human? Yes
Will they have to kill them to get the stem cells? Yes

I understand to you it’s just a bunch of cells, to me its a person just like you or I are a person. We are just in a later stage of development than these people we are talking about.

To obama even a living child lying on a hospital table completely separated from their mother (I use that term loosely) is not a person if the mother wishes the child dead.

We just have different standards of what it means to be a person.
 
Are these embryos alive? Yes
Are they human? Yes
Will they have to kill them to get the stem cells? Yes

I understand to you it’s just a bunch of cells, to me its a person just like you or I are a person. We are just in a later stage of development than these people we are talking about.

To obama even a living child lying on a hospital table completely separated from their mother (I use that term loosely) is not a person if the mother wishes the child dead.

We just have different standards of what it means to be a person.

I repeat..left over embryos from IVF clinics are currently thrown out. Is that the practice you are advocating? I've never seen you complain about it in the past, but now that they will be used for research suddenly it's a big deal.
 
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I repeat..left over embryos from IVF clinics are currently thrown out. Is that the practice you are advocating? I've never seen you complain about it in the past, but now that they will be used for research suddenly it's a big deal.

I do not think they are thrown out; they are stored in cold storage.

I have always been against this but this is the first thread I have seen about it.

I am also against making these children by the dozen when the woman needs one. I say fertilize one egg (unless she wants twins) if it doesn’t work, go back and do it again next month. We should not be creating life like this just to experiment on it or leave it in cold storage or out of the convenience of women who does not want to keep going back to have it done if it doesn’t take the first time.
 
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