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America!, Obama does not have our best interest at heart

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by always, Sep 21, 2009.

  1. always

    always New Member

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    Folks , It is very clear Obama does not have America's best interest at heart! Just look at what he has done to our Nation siince he has been in power. First , he puts his marxist agenda into play by taking over most of our Auto Industry . Then he gave billions of our dollars to his Union Goons now running G.M. Then he allows his close friends ,the ACORN group, to continue with their unlawful practise, some of which we see on televison , thanks to FOX . Then he wants to take over OUR Healthcare and control our doctors , our hospitals , and our very lives . Everything Obama has suggested harms America , from stopping our agreed to missiel defense system in Poland to apologizing for America's history , to insulting our allies , to supporting our enemies , Obama has been a Dangerous Mistake for America's values and our CONSTITUTIONAL Law . We had best reverse Course , no enemy of America in all our past histiry has done as much damage as Obama has in just a few long months .It is impossible to list here all of his damaging actions but if you love and know America at all you too must be shocked.Beginning NOW we all must work to prevent his policies from ever being enacted . Then in 2010 and in 2012 we must VOTE on PRINCIPLE and not for Party . Throw out those who side with Obama be they Republican, democrat , or Independent . Our children deseve an America that our fonding fathers created not an America that Obama destroyed . THINK!
     
  2. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    worthless ranting not worth reading. the Rights We are more American then the left bull is sad pathetic and needs to go. People who think like that are worthless to debate.


    Have no idea what you posted, and dont realy care.
     
  3. Greco

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    Day after day he has an insatiable hunger to prove beyond any doubt he's both a liar and a fool. This poster is totally cluless to how absurd his nonsensical rants come across.
     
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    I agree that there are some things that are going sideways right now, but I find it difficult to support the throw the baby out with the bath water mentality. I don't agree with much of what this administration is doing, but I don't yet question their intent. Misguided maybe, evil, not so much.

    This is the same thing they were saying about Bush only a short year ago. Why don't we look at the bigger picture and realize that Congress can't find their ___ from a whole in the ground. If we want to make healthcare more affordable then improve technology and increase efficiencies. If you want to expand insurance for the lowest incomes earners then expand Medicare. If you want cheaper energy that doesn't rely on foreign oil then look to Nuclear and Natural Gas. If you want to find a way to pay for everything then create long-term sustainable jobs to increase the customer base.

    Corporations and Presidents aren't evil. Let's stop the dramatics and really drive the change that will help U.S. Citizens.
     
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    You and pocket hit the nail on the head!

    And rants are all some on the Far Lunatic Right seem to be capable of doing. I say Far Lunatic Right because some on the Right have a different opinion on how to reach certain goals... but don't just rant against our duly elected President for the sake of ranting and make that ranting even worse with totally made up lies.

    The Bush recession the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression is ending and hundreds of thousands less jobs were lost than would have been lost had the government not stepped in. Making it even worse on the American people than The Bush Recession was.

    It's like this you can be a Herbert Hoover and let the country continue to sink creating Hoovervilles all over the country.

    Or you can be a leader that cares about the American people and be an FDR and do something to help.

    Thank God we got President Obama!!!


    What is a Hooverville?

    During the Great Depression in the United States, millions of homeless people settled in teeming communities of makeshift shacks known derisively as “Hoovervilles” after Republican President Herbert Clark Hoover, whom they blamed for their plight.

    The first use of the term “Hooverville” in the print media in 1930, according to Dickson and Allen, may have been in an article referencing a shantytown in Chicago, Illinois, which called itself Hooverville. The New York Times published a 179-word article about this shantytown, titled “Chicago jobless colonize; Shanty town called ‘Hooverville’ has a ‘mayor’ on its ‘Easy Street."

    The article reads, Hooverville, so-called by a colony of unemployed men, has sprung up in Chicago’s front yard at the foot of Randolph Street near Grant Park, like one of the mushroom mining towns of bonanza days of the Far West. A primitive form of government has been set up in this “shanty town” and Mike Donovan, a disabled former railroad brakeman and miner, is “Mayor” by common consent. It has its Prosperity Road, East Street and Hard Times Avenue, all crudely labeled. The shacks are built of discarded materials. The “Mayor’s” residence is at the corner of Prosperity Road and Easy Street, is made of brick, wood and sheet iron. “Building construction may be at a standstill elsewhere, but down here everything is booming,” said “Mayor” Donovan today. “Ours is a sort of communistic government. We pool our interests and when the commissary shows signs of depletion, we appoint a committee to see what leavings the hotels have.”

    Historian Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., noted that Hoover’s name became “a prefix charged with hate.” For example, newspapers the homeless used to cover themselves were “Hoover blankets,” farmers called jackrabbits “Hoover hogs,” empty pockets pulled inside out were “Hoover flags,” freight cars used for shelter were “Hoover Pullmans,” cardboard used to line a shoe with the sole worn through was called “Hoover leather,” and an automobile with horses tied to it because the owner could not afford gasoline was called a “Hoover wagon.”
     
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    So... you've shown he's no different from everyone else in DC....
     
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    You seem like a smart guy. Why do you insist on ignoring the fact that Bush didn't have that much to do with the laws and regulations that caused the recession. It was Congress. Both sides of the aisle were at fault for turning a blind eye to the loose lending practices and miss managed banking. In some cases Congress encouraged it. Yes, Bush had some input, but at the end of the day it was Congress' call.

    Obama, and Bush before him, can't make law. Their job is to enforce it. When we start laying blame where it is deserved we might finally uncover the real culprits that helped get us in this mess and the ones keeping us from getting out of it. Many of them are the same people and none of them reside in the White House.
     
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    "Why do you insist on ignoring the fact that Bush didn't have that much to do with the laws and regulations that caused the recession. It was Congress."

    And who was our nation's chief executive during those eight years? Who was it that could have pulled out a veto pen and made a course correction? Who was it that didn't do that?
     
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    http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jul/16/nation/na-medicare16

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/08/congress.water/index.html


    http://uspolitics.about.com/od/electionissues/tp/Bush-Vetos.htm

    http://www.senate.gov/reference/Legislation/Vetoes/BushGW.htm
     
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    So why doesn't Obama stop Holder on these CIA investigations?
    It's in his power to do so.
     
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    Do YOU have America's best interests in heart, or merely what is on your own agenda?

    As for any damage done by Obama to our Constitution, Bush did far more.

    Your Health Care system is broken. It needs to be fixed.

    Why waste money on another missile system?

    The auto industry wsas in danger of failing. Perhaps it should not have been fixed, but clearly its executives had been doing a por job.

    Anything you see on Fox News is usually either false or exaggerated.
     
  12. BigRob

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    Here is it again... Bush Bush Bush. Anyway, do tell exactly what Bush did trample the Constitution?

    It does need to be fixed, but "fixed" does not automatically mean the government has to get involved.

    Obama's coverage method is more expensive than Bush's. Not to mention, short to medium range interceptors are different than the long range interceptors.

    A lot of companies have poor management and fail, that does not mean they are entitled to billions in aid from the government.
     
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    His first act as President is to violate the Presidential Records Act of 1978 with an executive order. (1/2001)

    Project Groundbreaker - Domestic call monitoring (2/2001)

    Consolidation of Power: Iraq War Resolution (9/16/01)

    New DOJ Policy limits Freedom of Information Act requests (10/2001)

    Patriot Act (10/26/01)
    - Illegal Searches and Seizures
    - Free Speech violations
    - Due Process violations
    - Consolidation of Gov't

    The Patriot Act is the most unconstitutional piece for legislation ever passed. It is riddle with 1st and 4th amendment rights abuses.

    Ashcroft orders monitoring of attorney-client conversations (10/31/01)

    Illegal Military tribunals, violate due process and immigrant rights (11/13/01)

    Executive order for NSA to wiretap american citizens and read emails (4/2001)

    Ashcroft new rules on intelligence gathering permits: spying on religious and political institutions and the purchase of secret records on individuals not suspected of a crime. Violates privacy, free speech, due process. (5/30/02)

    White House announces Operation TIPS designed to use utility workers as public spies. Violating Privacty and Search and Seizure protections. (7/15/02)

    Creation of Dep of Homeland Security - exempt from Freedom of Information Act requests (10/2002)

    the John Warner Defense Authorization act - authorizes the deployment of US Troops in american cities and take control of local authorities and national guard without consent of the Governor or local authorities.

    Military Commisions Act - authorizes torture.

    National Security Presidential Directive 51 - Establishes the ability for the President to take over all 3 branches of Gov't in case of disaster. disaster defined as any incident, natural or man made, that results in mass casualties, damage or disruption. (5/2007)
     
  14. always

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    So, Your answer is since Bush did a lousy job we must allow Obama to destroy America. It is difficult to understand how one can not see the Obama policies are harming our nation , our allies , and indeed our own citizens . Is your hate for G.W.Bush so strong that it affects your brain ? I too think Bush did a rotten job , especially in his second term . He turned radical liberal on us and even approved the TARP program and spent billions just to pave the way for Obama . Obama came in and spent TRILLIONS MORE , more than all the other Presidents from the beginning of our Nation . Obama wants to destroy America, his wild ideas and nutty spending , his cancelling of our missiel defense systems , his lack of courage in using our Military , his siding up to our Enemies are all in his plan to ruin America . Our Radical Liberal Press are his partners in this destruction plot. Wake UP , FOOLS! We search for an enemy overseas when our enemy is in our White House , our Congress, our National news media . THINK!
     
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    YOU are talking about Obama are you not ? , I agree he is both a Liar and A fool , A BRAVE Congressman stood up on the floor and called him a LIAR!! Mr. Wilson is a HERO! Thanks for your support!
     
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