Another Bad-News Day, For "conservatives"

[PLC1]

I have responded to Shaman more times than I could possibly remember, with complete, documented, refutations to his claims. Each time, he comes right back with the same unsupportable stupidity that I have already disproved.

Some of his posts are so insane, so incomprehensible, that I've even asked HIM to explain how his post support his point, and have him decline to answer. Even Shaman himself, doesn't understand the very arguments he posts.

Nevertheless, I can count the number of times Rush has been wrong about any specific topic. Granted I don't listen to him anymore, but I used to. The only time I've seen Rush incorrect about a topic, was when the source for the topic was incorrect itself.

Most of the time, the big whiny fest that liberals have about Rush, comes from his mixing of humor and satire, while poking fun. Media Matters for example, was complaining about his use of the title "info-babe". That's not him being factually incorrect, just they don't like him poking fun at them.

Your own philosophy is a lot closer to Rush than to Shaman, but that doesn't make either one of them right much of the time. Sure, Rush is right sometimes, but, then, a stopped clock is right twice a day. His use of terms like "info babe" and the "lamestream media" is just a way to get attention, and means nothing. No doubt Rush could bury Shaman in a fair debate, but I'd like to hear Rush in a debate with a real, non radical but liberal leaning and well educated hard news type in a forum where he can't simply hang up on them. No way could he hold his own. Of course, he does OK with the extreme liberal nutcases he allows to call his show, but a real debate with a real newsie? No way.

 

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Your own philosophy is a lot closer to Rush than to Shaman, but that doesn't make either one of them right much of the time. Sure, Rush is right sometimes, but, then, a stopped clock is right twice a day. His use of terms like "info babe" and the "lamestream media" is just a way to get attention, and means nothing. No doubt Rush could bury Shaman in a fair debate, but I'd like to hear Rush in a debate with a real, non radical but liberal leaning and well educated hard news type in a forum where he can't simply hang up on them. No way could he hold his own. Of course, he does OK with the extreme liberal nutcases he allows to call his show, but a real debate with a real newsie? No way.

I think that you might be making a statement based on opinion, and not so much on fact. I've seen rush in interviews as well as prime time news shows in interviews. He more than held his own. Because you don't like someone doesn't mean that they are dumb. Also he no longer calls them the lame stream media....they are now the "drive-by media". Pretty accurate description at times.

 

[Andy]

Your own philosophy is a lot closer to Rush than to Shaman, but that doesn't make either one of them right much of the time. Sure, Rush is right sometimes, but, then, a stopped clock is right twice a day. His use of terms like "info babe" and the "lamestream media" is just a way to get attention, and means nothing. No doubt Rush could bury Shaman in a fair debate, but I'd like to hear Rush in a debate with a real, non radical but liberal leaning and well educated hard news type in a forum where he can't simply hang up on them. No way could he hold his own. Of course, he does OK with the extreme liberal nutcases he allows to call his show, but a real debate with a real newsie? No way.

I'm always a bit confused by this. Nearly anyone on the left that calls up Rush, gets put to the head of the line. He loves to debate people. I can even remember a guy who called into a liberal show, and said he gets through to Rush constantly. Rush himself has said, feel free to call if you are liberal. I suppose it's just automatic that people assume he must screen out all the "good liberals" and only allow through the "bad liberals".

That said, Rush has been interviewed a number of times by a number of new people. I've never seen him do poorly. Moreover, the press has routinely been deceitful towards conservatives a number of times.

In one instance, they invited him on, if I remember Crossfire about a specific topic, and then once the show started, popped a completely different subject. They did the same thing to Laura Schlessinger. Asked her to come a show to talk about her book, then as soon as the cameras turned on, never mentioned her book, but started attacking her on a completely different subject. Something about daycare I believe.

It reminds me a bit about the Fair.org Rush Limbaugh error list. Back in the 90s, under the paid direction of Jeff Cohen, a left-wing nut case, Fair.org issued a list of supposed Rush Limbaugh errors. Rush issued a response, the was never printed anywhere in the mainstream press. But ironically, the Fair.org response to Rush's response, was printed.

You claim Rush wouldn't debate these people? He has, just no one knows because of their one-sided coverage. How many people have actually heard Rush's CPAC address to the nation? Yet they claim they know what he said without watching it. It's pretty sad really.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Pooooooooooooooooooooor conservofascists......

Things (just) don't seem to be going-your-way............

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[Ronaldus Magnus]

Pooooooooooooooooooooor conservofascists......

Things (just) don't seem to be going-your-way............

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Why would this bother us? It seems perfectly normal for global socialist to accept the socialist president of the U.S.A.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Why would this bother us? It seems perfectly normal for global socialist to accept the socialist president of the U.S.A.

Keep whinin', Goober!!​

"Unemployment at a 25-year high. Housing prices continuing to fall. Corporate titans such as General Motors on the brink of bankruptcy. There's no lack of bad economic news.

And yet, amid the gloom, there are a growing number of economists that see a recovery on the horizon -- perhaps even a strong rebound.

They say that a number of indicators appear to have bottomed out in recent months. Job losses may have peaked in January. Home sales are starting to pick up. Stocks are enjoying a strong rally.

And because the economy has experienced such a steep decline in the current downturn, some economists are hopeful the recovery ahead will be much stronger than the anemic gains that came about after the end of the previous two recessions.

Lakshman Achuthan, managing director of Economic Cycle Research Institute, said the economy could be as close to four months away from a recovery."



It takes a DEM to clean-up, after another BUSH!!​

 

[bododie]

It takes a DEM to clean-up, after another BUSH

I'm sure you would love to pat your boy on the back, but are you even remotely aware that it is the world bank's intervention along with other nations who are in worse shape than we are that need our ecomony to get better, so that theirs do? The dollar still rules, Shaman. Do you actually think Obam-ba is making these decisions all on his little own because he's such a brainiac? Are you also aware that China is buying up this country faster than you can say "ramen"?

Are you aware of anything real?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Do you actually think Obam-ba is making these decisions all on his little own because he's such a brainiac?

Nope!!!

You can thank Bill Clinton's economic-advisors, as well!

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[Andy]

Keep whinin', Goober!!​

Let me get this straight... one dude somewhere says that the economic recovery could be four months away, and this is proof to you that Obama cleaned up Bush's mess?

Well first off, we already showed it wasn't Bush's mess. It was Clinton's mess, and congress who pushed for a knee-jerk reactionism to Enron.

But even discounting that.... ONE guy, somewhere, is all it takes to convince you that this is all true? Even when the very guy you are quoting says "COULD" be and "Four months away"? That's it? You are this gullible, that one single guy saying something COULD happen, is enough to convince you... Well this explains a TON about why you are the least reliable source of information on this entire forum. In fact, it make perfect sense.

Here's a tip... Obama more than three whole months ago, said that the bailout he supported was already having huge positive effects we couldn't see.

Now unemployment is much higher, two large automakers are about to go bankrupt, and a half dozen or more of the banks that got massive bailouts, have already gone bankrupt or been bought out. OOOoooo yeah... Obama was right on the money on his theory there. Massive positive effects... no doubt.

Reminds me of a comedy skit, where a gal was detailing all the times the stock market tanked, right after Obama won the election, got sworn in, and had is non-state of the Union speech. After which she comments "I thought Obama planned to redistribute wealth, but I didn't realize he was going to eliminate it entirely".

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Let me get this straight... one dude somewhere says that the economic recovery could be four months away, and this is proof to you that Obama cleaned up Bush's mess?

Well first off, we already showed it wasn't Bush's mess. It was Clinton's mess, and congress who pushed for a knee-jerk reactionism to Enron.

Yeah.....that's what happened.........

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"It must have been a shock. Clinton thought he was inheriting a $360 billion federal budget deficit when it was in fact twice as much. He thought he was inheriting a nation with a $5.6 trillion debt and it turns out to be a $14 trillion debt.

By April he had learned of the Grand Bushonian Fraud -- how the Bush Cabal denuded the Social Security General Trust Fund and 43 other public trust funds out of $5 trillion and then stuffed them full of worthless non-marketable US Treasury securities. This is the time when Clinton began to talk extensively with Alan Greenspan. He understood that something had to be done because we were virtually in a crisis.

Like most people in Washington, Clinton understood that Ronald Reagan was a figurehead and that it was really the Bush Cabal, which was running things for all of those 12 years. He also understood that the Bush Cabal had perpetrated the greatest fraud ever committed against the American people and that the Bush Cabal had essentially destroyed the economy of the United States - which in fact they had."​

 

[Ronaldus Magnus]

Yeah.....that's what happened.........

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A liberal blog is again your proof. Thank you for forwarding the opinion of someone else......Do you ever think for yourself or do any leg work for yourself?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

A liberal blog is again your proof. Thank you for forwarding the opinion of someone else......Do you ever think for yourself or do any leg work for yourself?

Yeah.....discounting others' opinions have done "conservatives" sooooooooooooooo much good!!

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"Beyond that, Republicans have become embarrassing to watch. And it doesn’t feel right to make fun of crazy people. Better, perhaps, to focus on the real policy debates, which are all among Democrats.

But here’s the thing: the G.O.P. looked as crazy 10 or 15 years ago as it does now."​

 

[PLC1]

Yeah.....discounting others' opinions have done "conservatives" sooooooooooooooo much good!!

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Do you ever have an original thought, or do you rely on blogs to tell you what to believe?

 

[Andy]

Guys guys... NO he does not have original thoughts. Shaman never thinks for himself. He just posts inconsistent, unrelated blog articles, with multi colored links, and spams the entire forum with him. Never once having anything of value to say.


Just... move on. It's a waste of time. Unless you are humored by him, in which case, let sarcasm roll!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"British scientists have developed the world’s first stem cell therapy to cure the most common cause of blindness. Surgeons predict it will become a routine, one-hour procedure that will be generally available in six or seven years’ time.

The treatment involves replacing a layer of degenerated cells with new ones created from embryonic stem cells. It was pioneered by scientists and surgeons from the Institute of Ophthalmology at University College London and Moorfields eye hospital.

This week Pfizer, the world’s largest pharmaceutical research company, will announce its financial backing to bring the therapy to patients.

The treatment will tackle age-related macular degeneration (AMD), the most common cause of blindness. It affects more than 500,000 Britons and the number is forecast to increase significantly as people live longer. The disease involves the loss of eye cells.

Coffey said the treatment would take “less than an hour, so it really could be considered as an outpatient procedure. We are trying to get it out as a common therapy”.​

I guess we'll see how many "pro-lifers" pass, on this therapy.....unless, of course.....somehow.....it's different, for them.​