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AP sugarcoats Obama's mentor

Discussion in 'Elections & Political Parties' started by Libsmasher, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. Libsmasher

    Libsmasher New Member

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    Do you really have this little amount of time on your hands? Christ, we are talking about a guy that died over 20 years ago. If you want to go this route, I am sure we will find some interesting "mentors" for Bush, Cheney and McCain who died 20 years ago. Much less was thier mentors 30 years ago.

    We are talking about a guy who was close to Obama when he was by the source you cited, when he was 15-19 years old. This is simply lame. No other words from me can describe this.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    big eared man? you realy have that little else to come up with?
     
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    He's just ONE of the evil mentors of Obama throughout his life - this one being during his formative years - and Obama's ultra-leftwing voting record shows the influence persists. Please, DO show us equivalents from McCain's early years (lotsa luck with that :D). But your whole post misses the point, which is the on-going pervasive lib media pro-obama bias.
     
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    Ah Geez Libs, this isnt even grasping at straws, it is grasping at thin air.

    How horrible, he knew a long dead communist when he was a teenager. Makes me think about a hockey coach/mentor I was close with whilst in High School. He turned out to be fraudulent wife beater. Served 3 years in the Federal Penn for it. I also had no clue that he hit his wife on a regular basis. It is amazing what happens behind closed doors.
    I know, those rough teenage years. I wonder how many facists you knew in those days, or if your ultra right wing zealotry came later.
    Isnt it great, I cant wait until he can bring those ultra left wing straight to 1600 Pennsylvania. Just know this, it is the folks like you who put a name into the WH 8 years ago, and the utter ineptness and desire to move well away from the Bush policies that has created the raise of Obama. Nobody to blame but yourselves.
    Putting my funny hat on...I dont think there is written history going back that far!:D
    In all reality its a shame that McCain didnt win in 2000. I was a big fan of his then. I still am actually a big fan of McCain. I have a great deal of respect for him. But short of having my best friend on the GOP ticket, there is no way whatsoever I will vote GOP due to thier actions over the last 8 years. I wish there was a viable third or 4th party to vote for, because I am not all that thrilled with the DEMS. But at this rate, I would rather vote for a died red Commie than a Republican.
    Ah, I like how the point is elusive. So what do you suggest? Specific rules that ensures the same airtime for the candidates?
     
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    Hey, with your distortion ability, why don't you pitch the salmon and join the lib media? They could use you!

    Focus now: As is now well known everywhere but in the lib media and in the feeble minds it informs, Davis was a MENTOR (drop the fish and look that up in the dictionary) of Obama and influenced his thinking.


    Comparing a communist with a wife beater - it's THAT kind of thinking that made you President of M.I.T. :p

    No, I didn't encounter fascists until I met humanties faculty at university.

    Uh, actually, I've never voted for president, and don't vote at all anymore. And saying we are getting Obama because of Bush is exactly the same thing as saying you'll cut off your nose to spite your face. :D

    When you can't back up the lame things you say, escape with an even lamer joke.

    No, I leave the free speech suppression to those who do it best - liberals.
     
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    Yawn...................................
     
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    If anyone admitted Obama knowing, admiring, and being influenced by a big wig communist could be held against him, then they would be trapped, and have to admit knowing a known American terrorist (William Aires) could be held against him too...... then the list would grow. I don’t think Obama knows a normal person.

    So of course it has to be a non issue other wise it opens a can of worms to everyone else obama knows and the kool aid drinking followers ignore.

    It will not matter how down low (haha play on words) Obama goes, his followers will follow just like good sheep do. Posts like yours are only confirmation to those of us who are not blind sheep sucking kool aid. Don’t dare to hope it will get any of them thinking.


    Don’t forget……………..He is The One we have been waiting for!


    He brings change, hope and ……………………


    The judgment to lead (even if he is just following the failed commies before him)
     
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    I know commies whats your point? am I evil now?
     
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    Are you evil? I have no idea. But from what I have seen you type in forums I would say no you are not evil.


    I know open communists too. Some of them are school teachers. One of them teaches Current events in a middle school the other American history. SCARY!!!

    But neither of them I would say is evil. I actually like them both very much, I just disagree totally on political issues and would never send either of them to represent my city-state or country. Heck I would not send them to represent my local union :)

    My point is that Obama admitted in his book he was drawn to the Marxists teachers and their ideas. When he speaks now, his ideas are communistic socialistic and humanistic and not really anything America was founded on, showing me that he still holds those ideas.

    Knowing a certain type of person doesn’t make you a bad person or even say that you are “into” their style of thinking.

    Surrounding yourself with a certain type of people, repeating much of what they say till people don’t like it then saying you never knew they spoke that way….. Is at the very least questionable IMHO
     
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    OK I read the story you linked and the AP story that it is discussing.

    Yes the AP story did sugar coat Franks communism. Yes it was bad, even dishonest, journalism.

    And yes I agree with others here that by itself O's being associated with one man whose communism has been sugar coated is not that big a deal.

    Yet for those who are paying attention it is clear that O not only knew a communist here or there but he surrounded himself with all sorts of extreme types and was influenced greatly by them.

    Libsmasher, for you to make this a real thread all you have to do is list 5 more of O's extreme relationships to show a trend.
     
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    Did they influence the development of your wacked out ideas or did you arrive at those in a vacuum? Actually your admission is helping Smashers case.
     
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    But notice we expect nothing of intellectual activity from the Bots. Deep down, they only deserve our pity. The problem is the liberal media - one almost longs for the days when the liberal media establishment would work their biased magic with sophistication and a certain subtlety.

    I understand completely what the lib media is and what it does, but one would expect that at least they'd have some residual DIGNITY - enough to at least keep the POSE of disinterested professional journalists. Instead, they reduce themselves to almost the level of Bot teenagers at an Obama pep rally. Just imagine the lib media hyper activity if McCain had any equivalent associations in his past to those Obama has?
     
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    I have to disagree with you on this one LibSmasher. The liberal people are even more liberal than the media. I have talked to people who actually think that pmsnbc is actually right wing. The people themselves have gone so far left that the media can not keep up. Not all democrats, just the far far left. And in all fairness the far far right thinks fox is so left wing they cant hardly watch it.

    The people are more of a problem than the media. IMO


    But I respect your opinions, thankfully we live in the only country you can still say what you want.......... though it wont be long before we lose that if hte far left gets their way.
     
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    One comment: Someone who is such an unredeemable flake as to call msnbc rightwing doesn't thereby move the lib media to the political center for any rational person.

    Here's some more comment on the lib media's love fest with Obama, and the lib media's arrogance, that they share as a characteristic with Obama (NR, July 14, 2008 - Emery is from the Weekly Standard):

     
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