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Bush and the nazis

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Dawkinsrocks, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. Dawkinsrocks

    Dawkinsrocks Well-Known Member

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    Attached is a picture taken in 1947 of the Yale ultra secret society the
    Skull and Bones.

    Their insignia is a skull and bones almost identical to the SS Death's head
    insignia. (And derived from the same 19th century German pagan cult.)

    The guy left of the clock is George Bush senior.

    Today the society still exists and George W Bush is a
    member.

    Members refer to themselves as knights and to the society as the order of
    the death's head.

    Every year, members meet up in America at a place called Bohemian Grove,
    where a series of bizarre pagan rites take place, including worship of the
    ancient Babylonian deity Molech, and mock human sacrifices. (It is believed
    that earlier in the century the sacrifices were real and negroes were
    lynched.)

    Members who attended recent events include the Bush family, Bill Clinton,
    Alan Greenspan, Colin Powell, Richard Nixon, Reagan, Caspar Weinberger,
    Henry Kissinger, Karl Rove, Arnold Schwarzeneger, and numerous other movers
    and shakers.

    Their current ambition is to amend the Constitution in order to allow
    Schwarzeneger (whose father was an SS Officer) to become president.

    In the late 30s and 40s Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush was director and
    shareholder of a number of companies that were directly involved with the
    Nazis, and helped them rise to power. In 1942 his company assets were seized
    under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

    Currently two former Auschwitz inmates are suing the Bush family in the
    German courts for damages.

    It is believed that money made from these Nazi contacts helped establish the
    Bush family fortune and dynasty.

    That is, until the Bin Laden family bailed George W Bush out in the 80s and
    helped establish a new personal fortune.

    But that's a different story.
     

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  2. GenSeneca

    GenSeneca Well-Known Member

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    This doesn't count... Remember the election?

    There is no such thing as guilt by association.... or does that only apply to Democrats who associate with terrorists, racists and socialist radicals?

    Its hard to keep up with the double standards.
     
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    Oh Gen, you have to know by now that the rules will never be the same for libs and conservatives.

    :)
     
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    I note that neither of you seem bothered that Bush is a nazi sympathiser
     
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    I didnt read your post or look at your picture or if there was a link, click it

    i read what Gen said about it instead :) What bush are you talking about?

    Prescott ? G.B senior or current president?
     
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    Its super-market tabloid trash... careful cherry picking of information that ignores how incredibly popular Fascism looked to America during that time. In America, Mousolini was a very popular guy, so was Hitler, and Fascism didn't get a bad reputation until it became synonomous with antisemitism and the Holocaust.
     
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    Dawkinsrocks Well-Known Member

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    It is fact

    You don't like it so you try to rubbish it
     
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    what Gen said is fact?
     
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    Some people sympathize with socialists. The rest of the socialists killed far more than the Nazi socialists alone. Should we kick them all out of office too? Can we start with Obama?
     
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    anyone who can not or will not uphold the constitution of the United States should not be allowed to hold office of any kind, not even dog catcher (assuming thats an office)
     
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    A real photo, definitely. Some sources date this from 1948, others from 1947, but that's just semantics. The insignia is also "almost identical" to other skull & bones images found a number of places: on an Italian church in 1660, the cemetery at Mission Santa Barbara (c 1786), the well-known "Jolly Roger" affiliated with pirates from as early as 1696, the Freemasons, the Knights Templar between the 3rd & 4th Crusade in the late 1100's, etc. The skull and crossed bones is actually the symbol of the last of mortality.

    Along with 14 other men, some of whom have made names for themselves in politics, journalism, banking, publishing, etc.

    The "society" is not unlike thousands of fraternity (and sorority) organizations found at colleges and universities throughout the country, even the world. Many of them have all sorts of "ultra-secret" aspects, and members who join during their college years are members for life, for the most part.

    That you and so many others attach nefarious intent to any of the prestigious schools such as Yale to be a center for the very affluent, Republican, Democrat, Independent, whatever, and their fraternal groups is a stretch. Could it be? Sure, I guess. But is it necessarily so? Not at all.

    Firstly, not all members of the Skull & Bones attend the events at the Bohemian Grove. Second, I'd love to see your "evidence" that cult-like aspects you claim.

    For such a secretive, nefarious group, they sure have been sloppy with their information!

    No, Gustav Schwarzenegger was NOT an SS Officer. He joined the SA, which was a civilian paramilitary group. He may likely have been involved in anti-Jew activities so common during that time, but according to a historian with Vienna's Documentation Center for Austrian Resistance they've found no evidence he participated in "war crimes or abuses against civilians."

    There is no lack of politicos who would like to see the Constitution amended so that their candidate of choice could run for President. This won't happen unless We The People allow it.

    This is old knowledge. The information about Prescott Bush has been available for years. It's been scrutinized by those responsible for prosecuting war crimes. The involvement he had was not unlike many individuals in American business during the 1930's. There was a great deal of investment in the rebuilding of Germany after WWI.

    It is not unlike so many situations of foreign involvement. 20-20 hindsight is always so vastly superior to forward-looking decision making.

    The class action lawsuit was filed in 2001. Initially filed in U.S. courts, it was thrown out. There was intent to file in world courts because of a connection with war crimes, but it's unclear whether that has ever gone anywhere. I couldn't find anything about the case in German courts, either.

    If you've other information regarding the status of the lawsuit, I'd love to see it. Perhaps that would be the best way to resolve this ultimately, once and for all. But of course if the outcome were against the claimants, it would do nothing to dissuade you and others of justice being done, regardless of the facts and evidence.

    The Bush family was already pretty firmly established as far as fortune goes, and the dynasty part comes from the political activity generation-to-generation. The government seized the assets in question in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act. They could have liquidated it all at that point. Dave Emory's For The Record (#479) provides this:

    Appears? Some claim? This is very vague, ambiguous statements. And this site is the one where I found the most thorough information. And DEFINITELY not pro-Bush...

    An article by John Buchanan for the New Hampshire Gazette notes that and questions why no news media has aggressively followed up on this store. It causes one to wonder if perhaps it's simply not a can of worms they wish to open. I think there are enough skeletons in the closets to share with nearly all of the dynastic families here in the U.S., as in most places in the world.
     
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    This story has the same credibility as the story of Obama the Anti-Christ, that is to say,

    Zero, zip, nada, zilch.


    I declare both stories to be hooey that even a patron of supermarket tabloids would find hard to swallow.
     
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    You dems are still slamming Palin. Your so damn hypocritical.
    Get over it, your grasping at straws. YOU WON THIS TIME.
    Quit with the rubbish.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    true its just as dumb.
     
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