Bush,conservatives, and Fascism

#1) fas·cism [fash-iz-uhm]
–noun 1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

#2) the·oc·ra·cy [thee-ok-ruh-see]
–noun, plural -cies. 1. a form of government in which God or a deity is recognized as the supreme civil ruler, the God's or deity's laws being interpreted by the ecclesiastical authorities.

#3) so·cial·ism [soh-shuh-liz-uhm]
–noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

I'm posting these definitions to show the differences between the three. It is glaringly obvious that #1 and #2 more represent far right wing dogma and the third (without the presents of #1 or #2) would be the far left taken to it's most extreme.

The fact that these 3 different things can and have been used in various combinations in no way invalidates what each one is on its own... nor does it change the fact that Conservatives have been very accommodating in letting Bush consolidate more power in only one branch of government the Executive, often imply racial overtones in their rhetoric and have been caught several times breaking the law trying to suppress opposition & criticism (from Watergate to Libby and everything in between). So there are pseudo Fascist overtones.

Radical evangelist that want, campaign for and contribute to, extreme religious influence & interference in government are in bed with the neo-cons (no gay pun intended... but also not uncommon). Pushing for extreme religious interference and influence in government are the stepping stones to a theocracy.

The far Liberal end of the scale would be if everything was divided up and endowed equally. Which is a more socialist view. In theory this could be done in a democracy if that's what the people wanted and voted for... and would not have to be a dictatorship at all.

None of these things are good in the extreme. However we now see a country sick and tired of what the neo-cons have pushed and they are now being firmly rejected as elections play out.
 
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I'm posting these definitions to show the differences between the three. It is glaringly obvious that #1 and #2 more represent far right wing dogma and the third (without the presents of #1 or #2) would be the far left taken to it's most extreme.

You really don't have a clue do you?. "far right wing dogma" is strict constitutionalism. Small federal government restricted mostly to negotiating international treaties and trade agreements, delivering the mail, and securing the borders. Social welfare programs, those that might exist, would be supported and financed within the states in which they exist.

Look at the constitution and you will see "far right wing dogma. It bears no resemblence to socialism of any sort.
 
None of these things are good in the extreme. However we now see a country sick and tired of what the neo-cons have pushed and they are now being firmly rejected as elections play out.

???? The Senate is 49 to 49. The house is 232 to 201.
 
You really don't have a clue do you?. "far right wing dogma" is strict constitutionalism. Small federal government restricted mostly to negotiating international treaties and trade agreements, delivering the mail, and securing the borders. Social welfare programs, those that might exist, would be supported and financed within the states in which they exist.

Look at the constitution and you will see "far right wing dogma. It bears no resemblence to socialism of any sort.

The idea that political philosphies can truely be compared on a straight line spectrum is outdated. The idea that there is Left and Right, Far Left and Far Right is misguided at best. I prefer the chart that is four quadrants. It uses the economic Left/Right combined with the social Authoritarian/Libertarian (north-south?)

Edit: my attempt below looks terrible, but im sure you recognize the idea.


----------------Authoritarian/Fascism-------------------

Left/Communism---------------------Right/Neo-Liberalism

----------------Libertarian/Anarchism--------------------


Hitler was a right leaning Authoritarian, while Stalin was a far left Authoritarian. Stalin was a Communist, Hitler was a Fascist.

Bush would fall into the Right/Authoritarian quadrant.
 
???? The Senate is 49 to 49. The house is 232 to 201.

You forgot that in 2006 the Democrats took control of Congress for the first time since 1994. Also, for the first time in U.S. history no Republican captured any House, Senate, or Gubernatorial seat that was previously held by a Democrat. The 2006 elections were a total and complete victory for the Democrats, reflecting rather badly on the Bush administration's policies.
 
As lost in space as palerider always is... Right wing dogma now... is still Right wing dogma now. The Republican Party with George W. Bush as president with a lackey Republican House & Senate (until the last election) grew the government to its largest extent EVER. Spent more money than EVER before. Initiated comprehensive immigration reform. And of course LIED us into an invasion & occupation. Even Republican Ron Paul points out how far away the Republicans are from where they "claim" to be. It's all a neo-con shell game and as we saw in the last election... the American people know it now and they are not happy with Republican fraud and trickery. They started the change of power in 06... it will be finalized in 08

Democrats win big again in 08!!!! Watch and see...
 
???? The Senate is 49 to 49. The house is 232 to 201.

It's not what the split is now. It's what it was before the 06 election. It's how many seats Democrats PICKED UP in the last election after years of total Republican domination.

The pendulum is swinging the Democrats way because the Republicans totally over played their hand... became arrogant and thought they could get away with anything. Absolute power corrupted them absolutely... and they got caught. They are now in the glare of the headlights of the American people.

And if you notice many prominent Republicans aren't even going to try and defend their seats to avoid being run over by those headlights on that car called "change". They know they are on their way out and they are starting early to look for jobs. I don't blame them. I think it's a smart move on their part.
 
The Republican Party with George W. Bush as president with a lackey Republican House & Senate (until the last election) grew the government to its largest extent EVER. Spent more money than EVER before.


Seems like a lot of passion and conviction for such a meaningless statement. EVERY year since 1965 the extent of government has grown and more money has been spent.
 
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