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Bush US: Hypocrisy Personified & Astounding

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    Do as I Say, Not as I Do"
    Russia, Georgia and Bush
    By ROBERT FANTINA

    One is rendered almost speechless by the astounding hypocrisy of President George Bush. It has been bad enough for the last seven and a half years to hear his constant lies and to watch his fervent worship of the almighty dollar and those who can best enrich his elite, neocon circle. But by making the statements that he has uttered in the last few days he has shown once again his limitless capacity for hypocrisy.

    Russia and Georgia are currently engulfed in a tense situation that has brought violence to South Ossetia, an area of Georgia that has been quasi-independent, but with no international recognition, for years. Russia has stepped in, ostensibly to prevent attempts by Georgia to regain the region. The skirmish has quickly escalated to a deadly war.

    Enter Mr. Bush. On August 15, in response to the rising tensions between Georgia and Russia, he made this incredible statement: “Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the twenty-first century.”

    Let’s see now; if one is not mistaken, one could say that March 19, 2003 was part of the twenty-first century. That is the day that Mr. Bush used ‘bullying and intimidation’ to a horrific degree to ‘conduct foreign policy.’ That day marked the beginning of the ‘Shock and Awe’ campaign that has killed over 1,000,000 Iraqis, displaced millions more and killed over 4,000 U.S. soldiers and maimed tens of thousands more. Mr. Bush is correct: bullying and intimidation have no place in foreign policy, but his words are rendered empty, insincere and meaningless by his actions.

    Yet he continued: “Georgia's sovereignty and territorial integrity must be respected.” Why Georgia’s and not Iraq’s, one might wonder. And does this U.S. respect for ‘sovereignty and territorial integrity’ extend to Iran? What about Cuba? Georgia, one should note, has no oil. Does that render its sovereignty and territorial integrity’ more likely to be respected by the U.S? Cuba, of course, has no oil either, but one must always keep a close eye on the wishes of the Cuban-American voting block.

    Mr. Bush was not finished there; he had more to say on the subject. “To begin to repair the damage to its relations with the United States, Europe and other nations and to begin restoring its place in the world, Russia must keep its word and act to end this crisis.” The hypocrisy of this comment is almost too obvious to mention. When Mr. Bush and his yes-men faced a skeptical United Nations and told them of U.S. plans to invade Iraq, overthrow its government and occupy that nation, Russia was one of the many U.S. allies who refused to participate in this international crime. Since that time international surveys show a deep hatred and abiding distrust of the U.S; Mr. Bush is often seen as the second most dangerous man in the world, with Osama bin Laden being the only person considered worse. One must wonder why that is, since Mr. Bush’s potential for destruction far exceeds bin Laden’s, and Mr. Bush’s record of murder and terrorism makes bin Laden’s seem like a mild fairy tale. Yet Mr. Bush feels the moral imperative to lecture Russia about its damaged international relationships, and restoring its place in the world. Whoever succeeds Mr. Bush will have his hands full trying to accomplish that weighty task for the U.S.



    In order to assist Georgia in its current difficulties with Russia, Mr. Bush is sending ‘massive’ humanitarian aid. Iraq, which lost vital services when its infrastructure was destroyed during the initial bombing, continues to struggle to provide its people with such basics as drinking water and electricity. Instead of humanitarian aid, Congress continues to provide funding for tanks, guns, bullets and bombs, and other vehicles of terrorism, death and destruction.

    In order “to demonstrate our solidarity with the Georgian people,” Mr. Bush is sending Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to Paris to assist with diplomatic efforts to end the tensions. This is the woman who, in 2006, rejected any negotiations with Iran or Syria saying the following: “If they have an interest in a stable Iraq, they will do it anyway,” ‘it’ referring to assisting to stabilize Iraq. Will she now go to Paris and say that if Georgia and Russia have any interest in ending tensions, they will ‘do it anyway’? Ms. Rice has not thus far demonstrated any appreciable skills in negotiation. She is also the one who assured the world that the addition of 30,000 U.S. soldiers to terrorize the people of Iraq was not an escalation, but merely an ‘augmentation.’ One wonders just how effective she will be in Paris.

    After Russia, France and some of the other traditional allies of the U.S. took a pass on joining the‘Coalition of the Drilling,’ Mr. Bush and Congress considered ways of punishing them, from renaming French Fries ‘Freedom Fries’ (after approving the U.S. invasion of Iraq, why did Congress want to further humiliate itself with this farce?), to preventing the offending nations from participating in the lucrative contracts that were planned as the U.S. rebuilt Iraq in its own model, with its oil flowing to the U.S. Neither threat was sufficient to bring in these wayward allies, so perhaps Mr. Bush bided his time and now is able to punish Russia.

    It has been several years since Russia and the U.S. were sworn enemies. But under Mr. Bush’s regime, tensions have escalated; the Russia-Georgia conflict is only one area of concern. The Iraq war strained relations between the two nations, and now the U.S.’ decision to place a U.S. missile interceptor base in Poland is further irritating these already tense relations. But Mr. Bush has empire on the mind; a new base in Poland is another stepping stone. He has thus far been thwarted in his plans to build permanent bases in Iraq, but the door on that attempt is far from closed.

    One looks to inauguration day, 2009 for an end to the grave danger Mr. Bush has dragged the world into, but that day may only mark the start of four more disastrous years, if Republican candidate Senator John McCain is elected president. Should that be the case, the world can expect more war, more belligerency and more empire building, while U.S. citizens continue to sink into poverty as homes are foreclosed and jobs move overseas. The last seven and a half years have been ugly for the world, thanks to Mr. Bush and the people who elected him . A victory in the election by Democratic candidate Senator Barack Obama will not be a panacea, but will at least provide some relief to the catastrophes of the Bush reign of terror.

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    http://www.counterpunch.org/fantina08162008.html


    (meanwhile the US propaganda machine against Russia is in full force and Georgia's ( a puppet of the US) is being totally ignored. If one dares to listen to something like CNN.... one quickly realizes how far fetched their "news" is. Hardly a glimmer of fact or truths being stated for public consumption. Little wonder the US population is so bloody uninformed and dumbed down. Little wonder the US has lost any positive standing on the world stage. Until the US goes totally broke..... will the reality of its ugly ways hit home.)

    Disastrous times indeed. And as usual...... where ever there is a hot spot...... the US is in there like a dirty shirt., either causing it, fascilitating it, or compounding it. (under the guise -pretense of desiring constructive solutions. How else can it support its military complex and militant premise?)

    SHAME ON THE US. (if shame can even be felt by it.) It might be too far gone now in order for any new leadership to restore credibility and integrety. THe new and current US is truly a rogue nation with WMD that it has a history of using and would use again in a New York moment.
     
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    The signing on August 14 of an agreement between the governments of the United States and Poland to deploy on Polish soil US ‘interceptor missiles’ is the most dangerous move towards nuclear war the world has seen since the 1962 Cuba Missile crisis. Far from a defensive move to protect European NATO states from a Russian nuclear attack, as military strategists have pointed out, the US missiles in Poland pose a total existential threat to the future existence of the Russian nation. The Russian Government has repeatedly warned of this since US plans were first unveiled in early 2007. Now, despite repeated diplomatic attempts by Russia to come to an agreement with Washington, the Bush Administration, in the wake of a humiliating US defeat in Georgia, has pressured the Government of Poland to finally sign the pact. The consequences could be unthinkable for Europe and the planet.

    The preliminary deal to place elements of the US global missile defense shield was signed by Polish Deputy Foreign Minister Andrzej Kremer and US chief negotiator John Rood on August 14. Under the terms, Washington plans to place 10 interceptor missiles in Poland coupled with a radar system in the Czech Republic, which it ludicrously claims are intended to counter possible attacks from what it calls "rogue states," including Iran.

    To get the agreement Washington agreed to reinforce Poland's air defenses. The deal is still to be approved by the two countries' governments and Poland's parliament. Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said in televised remarks that "the events in the Caucasus show clearly that such security guarantees are indispensable." The US-Polish missile talks had been dragging for months before recent hostilities in Georgia.

    The Bush White House Press spoksperson, Dona Perino stated, officially, "We believe that missile defense is a substantial contribution to NATO's collective security." Officials say the interceptor base in Poland will be opened by 2012. The Czech Republic signed a deal to host a US radar on July 8.

    The signing now insures an escalation of tensions between Russia and NATO and a new Cold War arms race in full force. It is important for readers to understand, as I detail painstakingly in my book, to be released this autumn, Full Spectrum Dominance: The National Security State and the Spread of Democracy, the ability of one of two opposing sides to put anti-missile missiles to within 90 miles of the territory of the other in even a primitive first-generation anti-missile missile array gives that side virtual victory in a nuclear balance of power and forces the other to consider unconditional surrender or to pre-emptively react by launching its nuclear strike before 2012. Senior Russian lawmakers said on Friday the agreement would damage security in Europe, and reiterated that Russia would now have to take steps to ensure its security.

    Andrei Klimov, deputy head of the Russian State Duma's international affairs committee, said the deal was designed to demonstrate Warsaw's "loyalty to the US and receive material benefits. For the Americans, it is an opportunity to expand its military presence across the world, including closer to Russia. For NATO, this is an additional risk...many NATO countries are unhappy with this, including the Germans and the French."

    Klimov called the agreement "a step back" toward the Cold War.

    Russian response

    The US plans to deploy a radar in the Czech Republic and 10 interceptor missiles in northern Poland as part of a US-controlled missile shield for Europe and North America, has been officially sold under the ludicrous argument that it is against possible attacks from "rogue states," including Iran. Last Spring then Russian President Vladimir Putin exposed the shallowness of the US propaganda line by offering a startled President Bush that Russia would offer the US use of Russian leased radar facilities in Azerbaijan on the Iran border to far better monitor Iran missile launches. The Bush Administration simply ignored the offer, exposing that their real target is Russia not "rogue states like Iran." Russia rightly views deployment of the US missile shield as a threat to its national security.

    More here:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9836
     
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    This Time, the World Is Not Buying It


    by Paul Craig Roberts
    The success of the Bush Regime's propaganda, lies, and deception with gullible and inattentive Americans since 9/11 has made it difficult for intelligent, aware people to be optimistic about the future of the United States. For almost 8 years the US media has served as Ministry of Propaganda for a war criminal regime. Americans incapable of thinking for themselves, reading between the lines, or accessing foreign media on the Internet have been brainwashed.

    As the Nazi propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, said, it is easy to deceive a people. You just tell them they have been attacked and wave the flag.

    It certainly worked with Americans.



    The gullibility and unconcern of the American people has had many victims. There are 1.25 million dead Iraqis. There are 4 million displaced Iraqis. No one knows how many are maimed and orphaned.

    Iraq is in ruins, its infrastructure destroyed by American bombs, missiles, and helicopter gunships.

    We do not know the death toll in Afghanistan, but even the American puppet regime protests the repeated killings of women and children by US and NATO troops.

    We don't know what the death toll would be in Iran if Darth Cheney and the neocons succeed in their plot with Israel to bomb Iran, perhaps with nuclear weapons.

    What we do know is that all this murder and destruction has no justification and is evil. It is the work of evil men who have no qualms about lying and deceiving in order to kill innocent people to achieve their undeclared agenda.

    That such evil people have control over the United States government and media damns the American public for eternity.

    America will never recover from the shame and dishonor heaped upon her by the neoconned Bush Regime.

    The success of the neocon propaganda has been so great that the opposition party has not lifted a finger to rein in the Bush Regime's criminal actions. Even Obama, who promises "change" is too intimidated by the neocon's success in brainwashing the American population to do what his supporters hoped he would do and lead us out of the shame in which the neoconned Bush Regime has imprisoned us.

    This about sums up the pessimistic state in which I existed prior to the go-ahead given by the Bush Regime to its puppet in Georgia to ethnically cleanse South Ossetia of Russians in order to defuse the separatist movement. The American media, aka, the Ministry of Lies and Deceit, again accommodated the criminal Bush Regime and proclaimed "Russian invasion" to cover up the ethnic cleansing of Russians in South Ossetia by the Georgian military assault.

    Only this time, the rest of the world didn't buy it. The many years of lies – 9/11, Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, al Qaeda connections, yellowcake, anthrax attack, Iranian nukes, "the United States doesn't torture," the bombings of weddings, funerals, and children's soccer games, Abu Ghraib, renditions, Guantanamo, various fabricated "terrorist plots," the determined assault on civil liberties – have taken their toll on American credibility. No one outside America any longer believes the US media or the US government.

    The rest of the world reported the facts – an assault on Russian civilians by American- and Israeli-trained and -equipped Georgian troops.

    The Bush Regime, overcome by hubris, expected Russia to accept this act of American hegemony. But the Russians did not, and the Georgian military was sent fleeing for its life.

    The neoconned Republican response to the Russian failure to follow the script and to be intimidated by the "unipower" was so imbecilic that it shattered the brainwashing to which Americans had succumbed.

    McCain declared: "In the 21st century nations don't invade other nations." Imagine the laughs Jon Stewart will get out of this on the Daily Show. In the early years of the 21st century the United States has already invaded two countries and has been beating the drums for attacking a third. President Bush, the chief invader of the 21st century, echoed McCain's claim that nations don't invade other nations.

    This dissonant claim shocked even brainwashed Americans, as readers' emails reveal. If in the 21st century countries don't invade other countries, what is Bush doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, and what are the naval armadas and propaganda arrayed against Iran about?

    Have two of the worst warmongers of modern times – Bush and McCain – called off the US/Israeli attack on Iran? If McCain is elected president, is he going to pull US troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan as "nations don't invade other nations," or is President Bush going to beat him to it?

    We all know the answer.

    The two stooges are astonished that the Americans have taught hegemony to Russians, who were previously operating, naively perhaps, on the basis of good will.

    Suddenly the Western Europeans have realized that being allied with the United States is like holding a tiger by the tail. No European country wants to be hurled into war with Russia. Germany, France, and Italy must be thanking God they blocked Georgia's membership in NATO.


    The Ukraine, where a sick nationalism has taken hold funded by the neocon National Endowment for Democracy, will be the next conflict between American pretensions and Russia. Russia is being taught by the neocons that freeing the constituent parts of its empire has not resulted in their independence but in their absorption into the American Empire.

    Unless enough Americans can overcome their brainwashed state and the rigged Diebold voting machines, turn out the imbecilic Republicans and hold the neoconservatives accountable for their crimes against humanity, a crazed neocon US government will provoke nuclear war with Russia.

    The neoconservatives represent the greatest danger ever faced by the United States and the world. Humanity has no greater enemy.





    source:http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=13309
     
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    the current crisis is about US expansionism , NOT Russian aggression. Georgia was encouraged to act this way by the US. ..... A US that is rapidly failing at even it's preferred activity of choice: WARS.
     
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    Re "bullying". Slapping down a neighborhood bully (neighborhood: middle east; bully: saddam) is bullying??! Uh, noooooooo......

    The number of people upset that Bush deposed one of the worst wold tyrants since the end of WWII continues to amaze and amuse me. :)
     
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    A pure refined Bushophobic rant, with not a single shred of evidence. :D
     
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    ~~ LibSMASHER.


    ... To be sure. Particularly when bush HIMSELF stated that he was NOT INTO REGIME CHANGE. ( one of his many lies about INVADING AND ATTACKING IRAQ. ) Lies that slaughter that many PEOPLE are damned amusing, aren't they???


    Oh and remember when he said that "Military option was the last option." lie???


    Nope, what is ASTOUNDING is the number of AMERICANS that support a LYING , CRIMINAL with a midget IQ as their warmongering leader. It is even more astonishing to see how much in love americans are with WARS , POWER ,& GREED .


    IF he wanted Iraq (oil and positioning in the ME for more wars) that bad.........and he DID..... why not just say it?? Why not tell the truth?? And don't say ;Prove that he lied. As if it is not obvious to the bush/war supporters by now,..........then they are truely intellectually challenged and /or BRAINWASHED by their lying media.& Gov.


    Can hardly believe what one hears on CNN about the crisis that GEOGIA (endorsed by the US) caused. You would think that Russia invaded Georgia WITHOUT provocation.............( something like bush did in Iraq ) .......... all the while promoting the image that Georgia was the poor victim. Good for Russia for biting back. Russia and the rest of the world KNOWS exactly what the US is up to. It is the US BULLYING that must stop. Not what the US claims.....which is totally fabricated.



    Where is the integrety of the US and its population??? Down the toilet along with its economy?


    Furthermore, it does not take a full military invasion to depose a leader IF that was the MAIN OBJECTIVE. But the bushies are just too stupid to figure that out...........and live by the "I WANT NOW " principle. Also , there are a number of other despot leaders on this planet , but they are fine as either they are in the US pocket OR their nation has nothing the US wants ........YET.

    Keep laughing LibSMASHER. The situation is FAR from amusing now........as the US is the biggest and REAL threat to the world , let alone peace. If you cannot see imperialistic expansionism as being the primary objective of the USG......... then the US is in more serious trouble / deluded than appears on the surface.

    (an aside, but your user name is very revealing. :p
     
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    That is one of the most disgusting pictures I have seen posted, EVER!
     
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    Mr. Bush, Enough!!

    By Lisa KARPOVA

    14/08/08 "Pravda" -- -So you have the colossal audacity, Mr. Bush, to “warn” Russia to pull back? As the wanton, perverse war criminal under whose watch the world saw the crime known as “shock and awe” committed, I’d say you were well out of your mind to suggest that Russia should pull back.

    What’s a little shock and awe among inferior people we want to rob and destroy, eh?

    What do human beings need an infrastructure for?

    Why do they need clean water? Why do they need electricity?

    What’s a little torture?

    What’s a little regime change? Don’t recall when that was a goal of yours?

    What’s a little deviant, perverted sexual experimentation and humiliation?

    What’s a few secret detention camps?

    What’s wrong with destroying an environment for 4 billion years and generations after generations of people? After all, they’re just rag heads, aren’t they Mr. Bush?

    Perhaps when Russia even begins to match your tremendous feats of glory can you speak about pulling back you fool of the worst kind.

    You can also tell your number two man to shut up. Cheney said "Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and that its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States."



    So how do you plan to answer this erroneously termed “aggression”? He says this will “worsen” relations with the United States? Buddy, relations with the United States could hardly be any worse than they are now.

    The United States shows no respect for Russia. The United States shows no respect for any other country weaker than itself, much less a rival as you perceive Russia to be. How about your NATO? Today the west, tomorrow the world, eh? America uber alles!

    How about your missile shield breathing down the neck of the Russian nation? There to protect Europe from Iran? The most totally absurd thing that only a moron would believe.

    How about your deliberate breaking of your agreements regarding Serbian Kosovo? UN Resolution 1244 which your country agreed to, is the ink dry…you deliberately went against it and recognized Kosovo in total disregard and in violation of that agreement.

    And you expect your words to be heeded or even listened to? You are joking! It is said when Caligula went mad he heard laughing.

    Do you hear people laughing at you Mr. Bush?

    Listening to you, your Vice President, Condi Rice and US and western officials complain about "regime change," "invasion," "bloodshed" and "suffering civilians" (in the light of their crimes across the world) have become nothing but laughable at best and highly infuriating and enraging at worst.

    You are an idiot!

    We seem to recall that when your Israeli friends were absolutely devastating the people of Lebanon, wantonly killing civilians, destroying their country’s infrastructure and destroying their environment also….the flapping jaw of your representative, Condoleezza Rice and your entire administration were saying no ceasefire, no nothing, just keep on going, keep on committing acts of state terrorism on innocent people, keep on committing your war crimes, you have them covered.

    Well, Mr. Bush, this is it. Moscow better get this one right: No limited engagement nonsense. Moscow has the moral and legal right to carry out full scale military operations within Ossetia, Abkhazia and Georgia to ensure the safety of its citizens, to ensure the protection of Abkhazians and Ossetians and to finally destroy NATO plans for the Caucasus region.

    No sane, informed, honest, rational person can blame Russia for reacting to a genocide against their own citizens in Georgia. But then you are NONE of those things.

    The problem is not what Russia is doing, but how the US is reacting to it. If you were sane, if you were informed, if you were honest, if you were rational, if you were even marginally fair, you should be happy to see Russian forces put an end to the killing of Russian citizens by the Georgian military. But no, your government is advised by lunatics who belong in psychiatric wards instead of the Pentagon and White House.And you, Mr. Bush, belong in an international criminal court to be judged for your crimes against peace and your crimes against humanity.





    BRAVO !!! An excellent article about the REALITIES of this most recent crisis............ Once again: SHAME ON THE US...... and SHAME on YOUR sociopathic/ idiotic / CRIMIANL "leader". These are the sentiments of many on the planet. The US is isolating itself even further.
     
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    LOL....... why?? Because it METAPHORICALLY represents the truth??? :confused:
     
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    This entire post reminds me of something from recent history:

    Best of Baghdad Bob:

    Make any claims you like, no matter how outrageous or fraudulent, as long as you say horrible things about America, some people will believe it and support your efforts.
     
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    No

    Because Many of our Men died trying to save Europe from a mad man
    Many women lost their husbands and sons for that cause. Because you are making a joke of those who gave literally all they had for a free world.
     
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    Return to the Cold War for John McCain


    A bare-knuckle confrontation with Russia is just what the Republican candidate needed

    They obviously don't teach Cold War history at the law schools at Columbia University in New York or George Washington in the nation's capital, otherwise Georgia's president, Mikhail Saakashvili, who attended both institutions, would have thought twice about encouragement from the US for his ill-fated attack on South Ossetia a week ago.

    Saakashvili could have read vivid accounts of broadcasts, via the CIA-controlled Radio Free Europe, encouraging the Hungarians in 1956 to believe that if they rose against the Soviet occupier Nato troops would race to their aid. The CIA's director of operations, Frank Wisner, fervently hoped for intervention, but President Eisenhower never had the slightest intention of providing it. Wisner was devastated and suffered a breakdown, ultimately committing suicide.

    Another lesson for Saakashvili from this
    period of savage Cold War tension came in the dawn of the Kennedy administration when Cuban exiles, seeking to topple Castro in the Bay of Pigs landing, waited vainly for US air support which they thought the CIA had guaranteed. Kennedy declined to make such an order and the furious exiles claimed they had been stabbed in the back. Some think they took revenge with the assassination of JFK nearly three years later.

    There are well-known Americans with an identifiable motive for encouraging Saakashvili to believe that his onslaught on South Ossetia would receive support more substantial than some pro forma quacks of protest from George Bush, dragging his eyes from the comely swimmers and beach volleyball players in Beijing to the anodyne text placed in font of him by his advisors.

    Republican contender John McCain needs bare-knuckle confrontations with America's enemies. In such eyeball-to-eyeball crises he can strut before the cameras as the seasoned warrior with 'experience', unafraid to lead America to the very brink of


    more here

    http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/45131,opinion,georgias-loss-is-john-mccains-gain
     
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    It was NEVER a "joke". Sorry, you took it that way. THe image is not about the second world war. It is about what represents the US (military) and its ambiions on the planet today. The US was not the only one that fought in that war.......and are NOT the only heros. THat is just so shortsighted and so "american." YOu would think that the US fought that war single handedly. if one listens to the hero worship mindset of the US.

    speaking of mad men......... seems the world has one on the loose right now......and he is the so called leader of the US. HE is the one spreading wars , terrorizing , torturing antagonizing and trying to humiliate other nations to a degree it is more than a tad concerning.


    IF you want a joke...........then listen to the bush-bully delusional nonsence. Furthermore, there are more critical issues at stake right now than some silly image.
     
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    you think the militarys concern (number one or number 29087444) is to put a freaking mcdonalds in other lands? I hope you are not an American but you could be, you seem to be educated by the American public school system



    The picture you posted, is what I commented on. Of course I know that America was not the only Country in WW2, Germany was in it too, I bet you can find some lovely things to say about them.
     
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