Bush US: Hypocrisy Personified & Astounding

[Pandora]

What do you take for your vertigo?? The spin is astonishing. You don't WANT to understand any other view point but your own. So situation is null and void.

my spin is astonishing because the two events are not simular in any manner?

Yet I am to believe they are the same or I take meds for vertigo.

Well I am following that just about as good as I followed the thread

 

[GenSeneca]

THANK YOU Gen. Ignore who ever Shadi is with pleasure.

If you want to ignore Shadow too...... fantastic. Be my guest...but stop derailing the topic with personal attacks /aka BS.

According to you... anything short of "acknowledging" or "admitting" to US hypocrisy is "off topic"... Well guess what... We don't have to agree with you.

I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with the Anti-American position, somehow you're Brainwashed. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any America Basher. - Clinton quote, slightly modified

 

[Pandora]

According to you... anything short of "acknowledging" or "admitting" to US hypocrisy is "off topic"... Well guess what... We don't have to agree with you.

I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with the Anti-American position, somehow you're Brainwashed. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any America Basher. - Clinton quote, slightly modified

and you have to admit it without any sort of proof. You also have to take insults but can not say anything in return.

Shadow please try to remember when Americans are posting with you, we dont understand surpressed views, or surpressed thoughts, in our country we have the freedom to think, the freedom to speak and the freedom to express.

No American will ever understand or get used to being told we cant have our God given rights. No American is going to just shut up and take it because someone told them to.

 

[BigRob]

Refresher:

Enter Mr. Bush. On August 15, in response to the rising tensions between Georgia and Russia, he made this incredible statement: “Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the twenty-first century.”

Let’s see now; if one is not mistaken, one could say that March 19, 2003 was part of the twenty-first century. That is the day that Mr. Bush used ‘bullying and intimidation’ to a horrific degree to ‘conduct foreign policy.’ That day marked the beginning of the ‘Shock and Awe’ campaign that has killed over 1,000,000 Iraqis, displaced millions more and killed over 4,000 U.S. soldiers and maimed tens of thousands more. Mr. Bush is correct: bullying and intimidation have no place in foreign policy, but his words are rendered empty, insincere and meaningless by his actions.




"the do as I say, not as I do."....... is the hypocrisy I am talking about.


(an aside:it is very scary to realize just how dumbed down the US pop is. now. )

The US spent a decade in the UN with countless resolutions and warnings. Russia simply invaded. The comparison is a bit off.

 

[Shadow]

Does it even occur to you that the US is being "bashed" for a damned good reason. ??? Does it ever occur to you that there is a reason for the US low standing on the world stage??? Sure, it is uncomfortable to be on the hotseat now.........but there is a bloody good reason for it. The US has so much potential...... IF it begins to use its vast resources , capabilities in a constructive manner. It can be a respected leader again..... and lead by positive, peace oriented example .

THere is NO excuse for the US and /or its puppets to act aggressively , militarily against neighboring nations. I mean taking on , provoking the BEAR is beyond foolish. Now, with almost everyone else, the US has added Russia into it's list of opposers. How long can this go on without things getting really explosive?? Or is this continuous war state what the US wants??




Now, things might turn around IF and WHEN the US and its pop realize the fact that they cannot keep treating others like they have been? It is time for a whole new political framework and theme. ........ where wars ... ANY wars are totally frowned on. Where provoking others into reacting militarily is NOT an ideal poltical tactic.

 

[Shadow]

Shadow please try to remember when Americans are posting with you, we dont understand surpressed views, or surpressed thoughts

THAT is so "american' condescending and ill informed , while making idiotic assumptions about who is living in a suppressed nation . Sheesh.

Are you really that ignorant?? or simply idiotically arrogant??

How sad that the US is so free as to completely ignore the realities that face it today. THAT is NOT free, that is brainwashed.

but heck.......each to his own.

 

[BigRob]

Does it even occur to you that the US is being "bashed" for a damned good reason. ??? Does it ever occur to you that there is a reason for the US low standing on the world stage??? Sure, it is uncomfortable to be on the hotseat now.........but there is a bloody good reason for it. The US has so much potential...... IF it begins to use its vast resources , capabilities in a constructive manner. It can be a respected leader again..... and lead by positive, peace oriented example .

If we use our resources more like you want you mean?

THere is NO excuse for the US and /or its puppets to act aggressively , militarily against neighboring nations. I mean taking on , provoking the BEAR is beyond foolish. Now, with almost everyone else, the US has added Russia into it's list of opposers. How long can this go on without things getting really explosive?? Or is this continuous war state what the US wants??

The US did not cause this.

Now, things might turn around IF and WHEN the US and its pop realize the fact that they cannot keep treating others like they have been? It is time for a whole new political framework and theme. ........ where wars ... ANY wars are totally frowned on. Where provoking others into reacting militarily is NOT an ideal poltical tactic.

Sounds like wishful thinking to me. War will always be a part of humanity, and it always has been.

 

[Pandora]

Does it even occur to you that the US is being "bashed" for a damned good reason. ??? Does it ever occur to you that there is a reason for the US low standing on the world stage??? Sure, it is uncomfortable to be on the hotseat now.........but there is a bloody good reason for it. The US has so much potential...... IF it begins to use its vast resources , capabilities in a constructive manner. It can be a respected leader again..... and lead by positive, peace oriented example .

THere is NO excuse for the US and /or its puppets to act aggressively , militarily against neighboring nations. I mean taking on , provoking the BEAR is beyond foolish. Now, with almost everyone else, the US has added Russia into it's list of opposers. How long can this go on without things getting really explosive?? Or is this continuous war state what the US wants??




Now, things might turn around IF and WHEN the US and its pop realize the fact that they cannot keep treating others like they have been? It is time for a whole new political framework and theme. ........ where wars ... ANY wars are totally frowned on. Where provoking others into reacting militarily is NOT an ideal poltical tactic.

Your thread is US hypocrisy, your example is the Russian/Georgia conflict being compared to the US/IRAQ

They are not simular in any way, when anyone posts how differnt they are you just insult us instead of telling us why you think they are the same and explaing why we are wrong when we think they are differnt.

How can we have a meaningful thread if no ones points will be addressed except for to tell us some insult?

 

[GenSeneca]

The US has so much potential...... IF it begins to use its vast resources , capabilities in a constructive manner. It can be a respected leader again..... and lead by positive, peace oriented example .

You mean by accepting International Socialism and subordinating ourselves to the UN, or what?

BTW you never answered this question:

WHEN was the US a respected world leader? I want to hear what year, what place in time you feel the US was "positive and peace oriented"

 

[Pandora]

THAT is so "american' condescending and ill informed , while making idiotic assumptions about who is living in a suppressed nation . Sheesh.

Are you really that ignorant?? or simply idiotically arrogant??

How sad that the US is so free as to completely ignore the realities that face it today. THAT is NOT free, that is brainwashed.

but heck.......each to his own.

I was not trying to be condescending, I was trying to explain to you that telling us to shut up and just accept facts that are not facts wont work. You are clearly not American, it could be that you do not understand us.

now here is another post of you insulting me and being rude, but if anyone says anything you dont like you stomp them. but you dont seem to think those rules apply to you. i dont understand that at all.

 

[Shadow]

I want to hear what year, what place in time you feel the US was "positive and peace oriented"

good question. Seems the entire history ( however young and brief) has been destructive and war oriented. .....with momentary periods of quiet in between.

My mistake for thinking different.

 

[Shadow]

You are clearly not American,

and that matters , how?? Is this not an international forum?? If you want this to be a purely "american" forum......just say so, and I will gladly leave.

 

[BigRob]

good question. Seems the entire history ( however young and brief) has been destructive and war oriented. .....with momentary periods of quiet in between.

My mistake for thinking different.

Guess it has worked out quite well for US then, since we are one of the richest nations the world has ever seen.

 

[GenSeneca]

good question. Seems the entire history ( however young and brief) has been destructive and war oriented. .....with momentary periods of quiet in between.

My mistake for thinking different.

So then, be specific, what do we do, who's lead should we follow, in order to get the world to love us?

 

[BigRob]

So then, be specific, what do we do, who's lead should we follow, in order to get the world to love us?

We follow his plan of course