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Congress is riding in style....

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by PLC1, Aug 6, 2009.

  1. PLC1

    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    ...on our dime.

    $332 Million For New Luxury Jets To Ferry Congress

    Unbelievable. What a message to send to the American people during the wost recession in decades and a trillion dollar (so far) federal deficit.

    Throw the rascals out!
     
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  2. Pandora

    Pandora Well-Known Member

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    Ah I heard about this

    The Armed Forces asked for one, congress thought ah lets buy two more for us..
    and since its not an earmark we have no idea what weasle did it.
     
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    If this happened under a Republican president and Republican Congress, it would be all over every newspaper, in the editorial sections, across the left wing blogs, and every nightly news cast as an "outrageous" example of a "let them eat cake" mentality... But because its all Dems running the show, clearly this is a necessary expenditure of public funds and anyone who disagrees is part of the extremist right wing mob of hate mongers.
     
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    There should be a daily comedy show just showing the double standards

    I bet it would be a hit
     
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    Well that double standard would be on both Parties then. The jets are built in Georgia (a Republican state) and the buy was backed by both the Republicans & Democrats from that state.:)

    It was reported on ABC news tonight that Congress has introduced in its budget millions of dollars to have
    new aircraft built by Gulfstream so that Congressional members can fly in comfort. The request is being
    backed by both Republican and Democratic members from Georgia since the Gulfstream plant is located.
     
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    SHHHHH you're ruining their point. Even though Republicans were all for it, since congress and the president are made up of their opposition we'll ignore that facet and blame the democrats!
     
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    No, not at all. Republican or Democrat or the so-called Independent, this is the kind of garbage that has got to stop. Period.

    The point is, if there were a Republican in the presidency, and if the Republicans were in control of Congress, all other things being the same there would be a huge uproar. In other words, if this had happened in 2005, the assault would have been profound and immediate.

    The double standard is there, it is alive and well, and it is obvious.
     
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    Not exactly as ABC reported it, this is how it originally appeared in Roll Call...

     
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    The reason there would be an uproar is that the left leaning political groups out their tend to be self-informing; The right wing tends to be media informed, ie. Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity. When they want to inflame the right, they will, don't worry. If they cared about the planes, the right would be on fire because Rush would be up on his pulpit spinning everything into an anti-american purchase of communist built environmentally friendly aeroplanes.



    This isn't a double standard, it is a duality to the type of people tend to lean right and left.
     
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    IF (and it could be true) the republicans were waving their finger in disgust at the men from Ford, GM and other car companies for flying a private plane to the meeting in DC.... then yep, they too are hypocrates.

    But if they did not, then they are not :)
     
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    Good description of the last 2 years.
     
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    What an interesting way to put it. 'The left leaning political groups tend to be self informing;' based on...??? Where do these self-informing groups get their info? Osmosis? Clairvoyance? No. They get it the same way the "right wing" does. (By the way, glad that you've acknowledged we are the RIGHT, as in CORRECT, wing! :)) They get it through affiliations, media, person-to-person, etc.

    The alternative media who so inflames the right, as you put it, is really very insignificant. Of all the hours on the airwaves of all forms of audio/video media, they represent a relatively small percentage. For example, liberal talk radio outnumbers the hours of conservative talk about 2 to 1. Insignificant in total air hours, but not insignificant in impact. Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, etc. do inform and influence listeners. Like any group, there are a small number who get mindlessly inflamed. Most of the inflaming occurs when there is factual, reasoned purpose behind it. When we feel that an aspect of our American rights, freedoms and way of life may be at risk.

    I have absolutely no idea what you are saying in your "If they cared about the planes..." statement. It is flat nonsensical. Sorry.

    This is not a duality to the type of people... Unless you are talking about those that think in the terms of constitutionality, personal rights and responsibility, fiscal responsibility, etc. and those who do not. The main difference is that those who lean right tend to think things through, then add feelings when appropriate. Those that lean left tend to feel about things, then add thoughtfulness when forced.

    The point is in the handling of this issue, and there is, indeed, a double standard. It is a double standard because if the scenario were reversed, the treatment would be totally opposite. Ergo, double standard!
     
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    First of all when I speak of the groups, I speak in majority portions. Left leaning politicos tend to be, as I said, self-informing. Their sources of information? Numerous online outlets, blogs, research of scientific papers, and on and on. However the vast majority of right-wingers that you hear (not all, but a majority nonetheless) tend to be SINGLE information point informed. It is fairly obvious. The left wingers tend to have different arguments with different information supporting their ideas while every time I've had to discuss global warming, Pelosi, healthcare, or anything, with a right-winger, it is as if every one of them speaks from the same voice. Same information, same points, same arguments, same same same. If they were self-informing and did original research instead of having it spoon fed from the MSM then I'd not be saying this.


    As for not caring about planes. What I mean by this was that if the top mouth pieces of the right (O'reilly, rush, hannity, and so forth) felt that it would be damaging to the left and that the right would be completely absolved of public ire in this, you'd hear about it day in and day out, have protestes forming, have studies done as to why its so wrong to have purchased these planes for congress. You'd have a nuclear response from the right-leaning MSM outlets. But this isn't the case, they don't care about planes, as I said, quite simply, because their constituent politicians were themselves involved with the purchases.
     
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    Don't we as a people have the right to abolish the government when we see fit? Why are all the corrupt still holding thier postitions of power? Why do we continue to allow this?
     
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    With the exeption of the S. Court we can throw them out every voting year.

    I do not understand why people vote back in these currupt people but they do.
     
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