County Clerk of San Diego sues California on Prop 8

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July 18, 2013
County Clerk Ernest J. Dronenburg, Jr. has had enough. He isn't bending to threats and tyranny from King Jerry the Brown nor his Consort AG Kamala Harris.
ERNEST J. DRONENBURG, JR., in his official capacity as County
Clerk of San Diego County,
Petitioner,
v.
EDMUND G. BROWN JR., in his official capacity as Governor of the
State of California; KAMALA D. HARRIS, in her official capacity as
Attorney General of the State of California; RON CHAPMAN, in his
official capacity as Director of the California Department of Public
Health; TONY AGURTO, in his official capacity as State Registrar of
Vital Statistics and Assistant Deputy Director of Health Information and
Strategic Planning of the California Department of Public Health, Respondents....
...By this Verified Petition for Writ of Mandate, Petitioner
Ernest J. Dronenburg, Jr., in his official capacity as County Clerk of San
Diego County, hereby respectfully requests a writ of mandate ordering
Respondents—Edmund G. Brown Jr., in his official capacity as Governor
of the State of California; Kamala D. Harris, in her official capacity as
Attorney General of the State of California; Dr. Ron Chapman, in his
official capacity as Director of the California Department of Public Health;
and Tony Agurto, in his official capacity as State Registrar of Vital
Statistics and Assistant Deputy Director of Health Information and
Statistics and Assistant Deputy Director of Health Information and
Strategic Planning of the California Department of Public Health (hereafter
referred to as the State Registrar)—to execute their supervisory duties,
which do not include control over county clerks issuing marriage licenses
,
consistent with state law limitations.
2. Petitioner also requests an immediate temporary stay during
the pendency of these writ proceedings (1) that orders Respondents not to
enforce the State Registrar’s directive commanding county clerks to issue
marriage licenses contrary to state law defining marriage as the union
between one man and one woman, and (2) that directs Petitioner to refrain
from issuing marriage licenses contrary to state law defining marriage as
the union between one man and one woman until this Court settles the
important issues raised in this Petition. Petitioner has been placed in an
unsustainable position because, among other things, he has been threatened
with legal action by the Attorney General for exercising his public duties
consistent with state law defining marriage as the union between one man
and one woman
. The urgency demanding this immediate temporary stay
derives primarily from the need to provide legal clarity regarding
Petitioner’s duty to issue marriage licenses in accordance with state law.
This Petition raises fundamental questions of state law that
affect Petitioner’s legal duty to issue marriage licenses. Respondents have
ordered Petitioner to stop enforcing state law that defines marriage as the
union between one man and one woman. In support of their order,
Respondents claim that Petitioner is bound by a federal court injunction
that prohibits enforcement of that state marriage law because, according to
Respondents, state law provides them with authority to supervise or control
county clerks issuing marriage licenses. Petitioner, however, asserts that
state law does not give Respondents this authority over him, and for this
reason, among others discussed in the accompanying Memorandum of
Points and Authorities....
This Court should grant the relief requested in this Petition
because state law defining marriage as a union between a man and a woman
continues to govern throughout the State; Respondents’ clear and present
duties do not afford them supervisory control over Petitioner; Respondents
have ordered Petitioner not to enforce state law defining marriage as a
union between a man and a woman; Petitioner has a beneficial interest in
enforcing state marriage law as provided in duly enacted constitutional and
statutory provisions free of unlawful supervision or directives
; Petitioner
has a beneficial interest in obtaining legal clarity regarding his duty to issue
marriage licenses in accordance with state law; and (since Petitioner is not
bound by the above-mentioned federal court injunction) Petitioner must
enforce state marriage law notwithstanding Respondents’ contrary order.
http://savecalifornia.com/images/stories/PDFs/clerkwritpetition.pdf
Houston, I believe we have a clear and concise case on proper legal standing. You cannot order a County Clerk to defy their Oath of Office to uphold duly enacted Law in the State of California, or anywhere else for that matter. This man has been squarely placed between a rock and a hard place. His career stands perched on a cliff. Apparently, he has brass nuggets and takes his sworn duty as a public servant seriously.
Hat's off to San Diego. Look for more worried clerks who don't want to defy their Oath of Office to join the ranks..
 
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It's not going to end his career I assure you. The town of San Diego is crawling with conservatives, hispanic catholics and military chrisitan families. He will probably get an award. Although your point of gay attacks and hysteria is well taken.
 
It's not going to end his career I assure you. The town of San Diego is crawling with conservatives, hispanic catholics and military chrisitan families. He will probably get an award. Although your point of gay attacks and hysteria is well taken.

Hope you are correct but is not SD also the town who booted the Boy Scouts from a city buildin (with low rent) over their stance on homosexuals a few years back ?

Its still California and subject to weirdness.
 
Yes, it goes back and forth with the wind it seems. But when its explained to the voters there that offshore oil rigs could be brought back to the table by one Oil judge declaring it "unconstitutional" [it doesn't matter apparently that the Supreme Court just found it constitutional in DOMA to say "no" to gay marriage for each state as well as "yes"] that drilling companies cannot access leases they got offshore to drill on.

When it's explained that setting a precedent for arbitrary and illegal destruction of duly enacted and constitutional initiative law can have dire implications for another of the liberal pet causes down the road...then California's wake up and say "oh HELL no!"..

And also, what about one catholic judge deciding it's "unconstitutional" for Californians to make abortion legal? They will cite the "civil rights" of the unborn...

The best, only, and legal way to get gay marriage legal in California, which it is not now, is to put a measure on the ballot and see if people vote in gay marriage. Only the rainbow agenda are leery of doing this. They know the true numbers of "people who are for gay marriage in California" are trumped up and factually incorrect... hence all the effort they've put into greasing the skids to shove it in through the back door. Pun intended. They literally are raping the initiative system there...
 
The San Diego County Recorder’s petition to the California Supreme Court for a writ of mandate will be denied. Proposition 8 was a state-wide initiative that has been ruled unconstitutional by the United States District Court for the Northern District of California. Perry v. Schwartzenegger, 704 F.Supp.2d (ND Cal. 2010). County administrative officials act only as agents for the state in the issuance of marriage licenses; and do not exercise independent authority. The order of the District Court permanently enjoined the enforcement of Proposition 8; and, therefore, the licenses to same-sex partners shall be issued.
 
Yes, but the order of the Supreme Court just overturned the lower court. Prop 8 and DOMA were heard at the same Sitting. This wasn't by accident. . The clever conservative Justices did this by design. In the DOMA Ruling, they actually did Rule definitively in Prop 8 as to constitutionality. They ruled in DOMA that it is a state's "unquestioned authority" to define marriage, in the larger context of debating the legality of so-called "gay marriage". So, sorry. Some attorneys even missed the significance of hearing the two cases together. I'm not even sure the Supreme Court has ever done that before so it should have been a really big red flag that the Court was telling the world "hey, in spirit, we are combining these two cases". So one Ruling on one affects the other. And in the case of California, it cannot be the one exception to the numerous times in DOMA where the Court cited that states always have and and still do have the ultimate authority in defining marriage...including gay marriage...

A lot of attorney's missed that significance in fact. But they're about to learn about it...
 
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Here is a link to an interview done by NBC in San Diego of the Clerk Dronenburg and his explanation on his legal quest for clarity on Proposition 8's [the CA intitiative system's] legality: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...ds-Request-for-Stay-on-Prop-8--216634801.html

On Tuesday, Dronenburg stood outside the county administration building where couples go to apply for marriage licenses and said he didn’t take the action lightly.
Dronenburg said he didn't take the action to stop same-sex marriages but rather to gain legal clarity on the issue.
“I asked for a stay because I believe it’s cruel to set up people,” Dronenburg said. “In 2004, the court came out against it and they had to unwrap 4,000 marriages. That is hurtful. That should not be the government,” he said.



Source: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/San-Diego-County-Clerk-Defends-Request-for-Stay-on-Prop-8--216634801.html#ixzz2b76GCxA9
 
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