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Democrats Cut 'John Doe' Provisions

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by SW85, Jul 20, 2007.

  1. SW85

    SW85 New Member

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    LINK: http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070719/NATION/70719001/1001

    As I understand it, the amendment was in the original bill which was passed by Congress with broad bipartisan support. It was then stripped in conference committee, where no one Democrat could be blamed for it because of the committee's secretive nature. An attempt to reinclude the amendment to the committee's final report was then defeated by both the Senate and House at large.

    Congress has thus pulled the teeth out of the most fundamental concept of national security -- that a vigilant citizenry is the last defense against terrorist violence. As of now, you have the choice of either shutting up in the face of possible terrorist activity (and thereby imperiling American lives) or speaking out and risk being sued into oblivion by the ethically-challenged racial grievance mongers at the deplorable Hamas front group CAIR.

    Ostensibly the amendment was removed on the grounds that it was not germane to the underlying bill -- although no one objected when the amendment was first passed, and although the parliamentarians of both chambers ruled it was, in fact, germane. Here is a list of those Senators who voted for and against it. You'll notice no Republicans voted against it, although the increasingly worthless Sam Brownback couldn't be bothered to show up for the vote, nor could Obama. At least Tim Johnson has an excuse. For those of you whose Senators voted against the bill (as both mine did), you should write to express your outrage.

    I feel awful for those poor people in Minneapolis who reported the bizarre behavior of the "Flying Imams" in good faith and will now be litigated to death by CAIR.
     
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    palerider Well-Known Member

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    I agree. If people are behaving in a suspicious manner, one should be able to report it without fear of being sued. The responsibility for whatever happens afterwards lies with those who take action.
     
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    I think I am actually more outraged about this than I was about the amnesty bill last month. Yep, calls and e-mails will be flying from here, you betcha!

    I can understand the rejection of Sen. Susan Collins' attempt to attach ti to another, unrelated bill, (although the methodology is not in the slightest unprecedented!) but GOLLY! If something that is such a foundational protection for citizens in this day and age can't pass in a Homeland Security Bill, where the heck DOES it belong?

    These idiots are going to play politics right into our graves.
     
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    The more I hear, the less I like.

    My account above was more or less true. The measure was passed in public by a wide margin of more than 3-1. It was stripped secretly in conference committee on a byzantine technicality that didn't apply in this case, anyway.

    Obviously the Democrats responsible for stripping it knew the amendment was popular and didn't want to be seen as voting against national security. So its passage went through quietly and then stripped it in secret in conference committee, where no one Democrat could be blamed for its removal. Now I have to wonder which race-baiting jackass was responsible for this.
     
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