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Eminent Domain

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Brandon, Jul 25, 2006.

  1. Brandon

    Brandon New Member

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    While watching a recent flurry of shows discussing eminent domain, I saw something that made my jaw fall to the floor. Local governments forcing private property owners to sell their homes and businesses for more "desirable" companies to occupy the space.

    I find this to be an erroneous use of this policy. The whole point of private ownership of property is that the government can't just come in and force you to sell. This completely undermines ownership of property.

    I don't even like it when government forces you to sell your home for the "public good", nevermind to larger corporations.

    What's your take on the topic?
     
  2. palefrost

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    I really REALLY hate the way condemnation and eminent domain law has been abused.

    However, it is par for the course, there are so many of these same kinds of stupid-idiot concessions to businesses that I can't stand the vast majority of corporations and the people who run them anymore.

    We're moving more and more to a pure capitalistic society every day with this.

    Yeah, mark me down as an anti-corporatist. Corporations are not people. They don't and should NEVER have rights. Period. Ever. They are only a necessary evil as a vehicle to organize people to effect things greater than one person could do alone. That's it, and they always still will be an evil. They, collectively from those that participate in them, are evil, nasty things, and always need to have oversight and scrutiny from the public, lest we surrender our rights to them. Even worse than surrendering our rights to the damn government. :mad:
     
  3. capitalist_junkie

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    The thing is, government interference with private property for the public good IS NOT capitalistic. It's socialistic. Socialism and communism do not give much respect to individual private property rights. Pure capitalism respects the right to private property without interference. We're becoming more and more socialistic ever day, and that scares me.
     
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    It is wrong to allow the government to take something because they deem it necessary. I agree, more and more each day this country changes into something that I once thought we fought against.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. Eminent Domain pretty much means that your private ownership means next to nothing if the government decides that they want to take it away. Thats the freedom we fight for overseas right.
     
  6. palefrost

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    What constitutes "public good"? Adding a walmart (big business) to the town to create jobs (more business) is "public good"? If you read over the recent amendments its all about big business!! If you own land that is in the way of production (business) and profit (business) auntie mae is loosing the farm...I dont think that's for the "public good" to me.

    Socialism in its true form is about spreading out the wealth. Like creating a universal health program for the country or Government programs that create education for low income families....

    Creating profit dollars for the benefit of locally run towns and governments IS not socialism,its capitalism which equals profit ABOVE the welfare of the people. The "public good" is about a democratic society which last i checked was what the USA aspired to.
     
  7. Brandon

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    Universial heathcare has it's pro's and con's.

    Personally I would not classify state-run healthcare as a "public good".

    This gives me the idea of creating a new thread about universial heath care (check it out).
     
  8. kokotai

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    This is the problem I have right now with the US. The government continues to push the limits of legality while many Americans sit back and ignore what is happening. I hope they wake up soon.
     
  9. Brandon

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    The people are going to wake up when there is a major crisis. Freedoms are taken away slowly and one at a time. Only when the people can't take it anymore, will they stand up. I might be to late at that point though.
     
  10. palefrost

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    You speak as its happening now!!!

    Ohio Court Blocks Eminent Domain Project

    COLUMBUS, Ohio Jul 26, 2006 (AP)— The Ohio Supreme Court ruled unanimously on Wednesday that a Cincinnati suburb cannot take private property by eminent domain for a $125 million project of offices, shops and restaurants.
    The case was the first challenge of property rights laws to reach a state high court since the U.S. Supreme Court last summer allowed municipalities to seize homes for use by a private developer.
    The case involves the city of Norwood, which used its power of eminent domain to seize properties holding out against private development in an area considered to be deteriorating.
    The court found that economic development isn't a sufficient reason under the state constitution to justify taking homes.
    In the ruling, Justice Maureen O'Connor said cities may consider economic benefits but that courts deciding such cases in the future must "apply heightened scrutiny" to assure private citizens' property rights.
    "For the individual property owner, the appropriation is not simply the seizure of a house," she wrote. "It is the taking of a home the place where ancestors toiled, where families were raised, where memories were made,"
    Targeting property because it is in a deteriorating area also is unconstitutional because the term is too vague and requires speculation, the court found.
    O'Connor wrote that the court attempted in its decision to balance "two competing interests of great import in American democracy: the individual's rights in the possession and security of property, and the sovereign's power to take private property for the benefit of the community." :D
     
  11. kokotai

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    It is for reason such as this that every one who understands what is happening must stand up be it on these forums to spread the word or out in the streets sharing our opinions. Beign passive is what kills some countries. The United States is less free now than it has ever been and most people don't even realize it.
     
  12. sushimonster

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    The citizens are definitely passive when they are being suckered into giving up there rights.
     
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    And that is just the thing, they are passive but pissy. This is how Hitler came into power and why we have Bush now.
     
  14. Martyr

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    I agree.

    10 characters.
     
  15. sarah

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    Eminent domain is something that I can understand under some circumstances, but I definitely agree that it has been abused. There is, like so many other laws, a fine line and we all know how the American government is with those.
     

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