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End of the McCain age "issue"

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Libsmasher, May 24, 2008.

  1. Libsmasher

    Libsmasher New Member

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    McCain issued his health report - he's perfectly healthy. According to his internist, he's "considerably younger than his chronological age based on his cardiovascular fitness.". His mother is campaigning with him now - perfectly lucid, and not even a walker or cane or anything. Age? 95 Looks like the Obamoonies might have to deal with real issues now. :)
     
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    Hello... Senility in office!!!

    Plus... The guy has had three major bouts with skin cancer and a great medical probability that he'll have more.

    McCain's Dad DIED at 70... might want to look into that. John Sidney McCain, Jr. (January 17, 1911–March 22, 1981). McCain would be mid 72 before he even got to the Oval Office... and that's just entering into this very stressful job let alone completing anything competently.

    Mom's not running for President of The United states of America... and I'd like someone that the bar isn't set at "lucid" if you don't mind. Kinda might need someone on the top of their game not on their way out.

    Jack Nicklaus (68 year old home town hero here in Columbus, Ohio) is one of the best golfers ever. He was smart enough to just walk away years ago from trying to compete with the current top players.

    Actually except for the fact Jack Nicklaus isn't known for pandering and Flip Floppin' all over the place it's a great comparison Jack Nicklaus v. Tiger Woods.

    I'm thinking Tiger's gonna win that tournament!
    :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UxCWmxdZg0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQKPWdUF7yk
     
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    Sure no problem at all. Thats why hand picked reporters were allowed only cursory glances at his medical records. One thing did come to light...McCain had secret cancer surgery just last Feb.:

    Some more interesting information, a result of McCain's surgery for intermediate melanoma in 2000:

    http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/mccain-had-cancer-surgery-in-february.html

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/138330
     
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    Libsmasher New Member

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    Is skin cancer alzheimer's? No - sounds like YOU have alzheimers! :D And it's gone. Kennedy plans to work on - lots of senators etc probably have health issues. Also, your "great probability" is BS (like everything else you say:)) - you're not a physician,and don't know what you're talking about.

    Well,let's take the average then: (95 + 72)/2 = 83.5 ...hmmmmmmmmm.... looks like you have a bogus issue.

    You never heard of inherited traits?? That figures.

    Like Obama??? HA HA HA. Obama has never had any "game" - he's inexperienced and incompetent. "top of their game" - what a howler! :D

    The presidency isn't golf, or skiing, or gymnastics - it's the presidency - the president makes decisions, he doesn't shoot baskets (good thing for Obama!) or hit home runs.
     
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    Libsmasher New Member

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    The "handpicked reporters" were those for all the major networks. You didn't get a copy??? THEY'RE HIDING IT, I TELL YA! :D

    Yaaawwwwwwwwn ........ "common in aging" - so most of the senate should resign?




    Dr. Lessin therefore has no qualification to comment on McCain's specific case - he's just guessing.
     
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    No skin cancer is not Alzheimers... but he's had one three times and the other is starting to show.

    Senators are in a group of people. Presidents have far more singular power. They can issue orders for an invasion. They have their finger on the nukes.

    Again I say you should watch more news. Several doctors have said that this type of melanoma tends to keep reaccuring... and as a matter of FACT he's already had it reoccur THREE TIMES!


    Why would anyone average. His FATHER died two years younger than McBush is now. He could go at any time.

    Yes I have... his own FATHER only lasted until 70 and was not in great shape for some time prior to that.

    Obama has game to spare! ;)

    Good thing for McBush... I just don't want the American taxpayer burdened by the cost of having to put in walker access ramps all over the White House and those Depends aren't cheap either. :)
     
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    First you say alzheimers, then you say cancer - he has neither. What next? When are you going to stop this imagining diseases and deal with the issues?

    They approve wars, taxes etc - why not ask them to resign? :p

    And fixed it THREE TIMES! You keep blathering about what might happen, I'm talking about what IS - and his own physician the person who doesn't guess or speculate but KNOWS, says he's younger than his chronological age. Obama the coke junkie might be OLDER than his chronological age.


    His mother is 95 - he could last to a hundred. :D

    His mother is 95 - he could last to a hundred. :D

    He's never done anything except waffle on infanticide - great guy.

    His MOTHER at 95 doesn't even use a walker. All your crap, as usual, amounts to imagining things with no basis in reality - give it up. :rolleyes:
     
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    Your not listening... :). I said he's had not 1... not 2... but 3 recurrences of serious melanoma. Doctors say this type of cancer often just keeps reoccurring. Appears that is the case with McBush... waiting for #4.

    The lack of mental focus and memory could just be signs of old age but it is often the sign of the onset of Alzheimer's disease. Either way not good President material.




    They approve wars as a GROUP. Not just as one single guy on the trigger.


    Correct... and as much as I know he'd be a terrible President I don't wish him his 4th bout... but by statistics it is likely at some point to yet again reoccur just like it has 3 different times already.

    Do you have some fact to back up that a male is more likely to have the lifespan of his mother than his father? Father had already been DEAD for 2 years at 72. McBush could go at any time.

    The guy is old. He's tired. He's Bush 3rd term with self admitted forgetfulness
    and a little more liking for war. Not good for America!


    REALLY??? :confused: They call him FLIPPER! FLIPPER! da da da da...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYsKiA3Myyw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeBw28tX5Nw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT3q3PVZ_ck

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCAT7AfdxXg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN8EMmML-es

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CZLTFvMM_E

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jua_8BYS5ZE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwD83bZ3XaA

    I could go on forever but my mouse is getting tired... :D
     
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    What kind of idiotic remark is that? Lets go over the quote again:

    Dr Lessin's credentials are well established, as you can see by the words I highlighted. He does not need to be directly involved in McCain's care to know the characteristics and the risk involved with intermediate melanoma. The main point remains, McCain is "not cured" of his cancer. Hence, the country is contemplating putting a man in the WH suffering from both Alzheimers and cancer.
     
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    Pure refined 112% nonsense. :D Ask ANY PHYSICIAN IN THE WORLD (I guess other than this guy :)) if they would make a diagnonsis of someone, never having seen them nor having looked at any of their test results. :p
     
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    You mean like Republican Sen. Bill Frist's over the TV diagnosis of Terry Schiavo ? A diagnosis that made him a laughing stock from coast to coast, in a case that contributed mightily to the Republican's downfall. You mean like that?

    Unfortunately, though it's fun to make fun of your heroes, the cases are different. Dr Lessin is not making a diagnosis, he is stating facts. Lets go over the quote one more time, this time highlighting a different portion:

    Dr Lessin is referencing a ten year window in the survival rate for intermediate melanoma. McCain had his surgery approximately 8 years ago, therefore he cannot, as yet, be considered cured.
     
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    Uh, no, Captain Reading Challenged :) I mean what I said - ask any physician in the world. Want to hear it a third time? :D

    Repeat - Dr. Lessin stated something specifically about McCain, viz., "he's not cured". Dr. Lessin never saw his test reports, his MRIs, or even examined McCain, therefore he has no basis for diagnosing McCain, which he did. That's pure logic - to argue otherwise is just a dimwitted exercise in Argumentum Authoritatem.

    That is merely a statistical observation of the average outcome of persons who have had that surgery - it has nothing to do with McCain's specific case, for whom informed judgements can only be made by his personal physician, who is in possession of ALL the relevent facts, not merely gross medical statistics. Give it up. :D
     
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    Thanks top gun, those videos really put into perspective just how old this man is. Besides being older than the Golden Gate Bridge, did you know he's older than Mount Rushmore? Know wonder he can't remember anything.

    Since you want "relevant facts" Here's some more about your sickly forgetful and cancer ridden candidate. This is again about his surgery in 2000:

    http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1779596,00.html
     
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