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Fact checking Trump part B: the war on drugs.

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  1. PLC1

    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Trump's statements:

    and the reality:

    Obviously, the way to win the war on drugs is to kill off the drug dealers and users. It is a war, after all, and there will be casualties.

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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    We can't expect the underworld to completly eliminate themselves...

    You are surprised the 3rd world does things differently ?
     
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    Why shouldn't we do the same? If it works for Duterte, whom Trump admires so greatly, then it should work for Trump as well. Nothing else has worked to date.
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    The be fair, we never tried.
     
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    It is still not clear that Deterte campaign will work. He is popular with some but some of the killings have been done without proof . I think the rule of law should still be used.
     
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    No, we haven't.
    We could simply arm DEA agents with sniper rifles and give them a license to kill. Hey, why not use drones? It works for the war on terror, so why not the war on drugs? After all, a little collateral damage is just the price we pay to go to war.
     
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    Yes, I think the rule of law is still rather important in civilized nations. In Trumplandia, maybe it isn't.
     
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    We could kill off the vegetation required for heroine and cocaine rather easily. But it will take out some surrounding flora so that's out. We are awash with half measures.
     
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    There must be some Agent Orange left from the Vietnam era.
     
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    Why not just grow your own and sell it direct? cut out the middle man - instead of paying Iowa corn growers to produce bio-mass just get them planting coke or poppy.
    That was one of the things that I thought was really screwed up in Afghanistan, the coallition should have paid the peasants to produce the poppies and bought it from them at open market prices giving them a guaranteed income and a reason to resist the war lords? Use the heroine for pharm purposes or whatever they use it for. At least the coallition would have contributed positively to a foundering economy, brought in speciallists to advise on growth for example and improve their understanding of farming and free them from the drugs barons.

    Whilst there is a demand there will be a supply therefore be the supply....Just a thought....
     
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    Isn't that Trump's secret service code name?
     
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    Can't grow it just anywhere
     
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    And far more effective stuff as well.
     
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    Can't be that difficult....shove it it greenhouses
    Anyway it's all moot.
     
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    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    That's a thought. Coca is a tropical plant, but opium poppies would surely grow in North America. Pot most certainly does. Meth can be made anywhere, but best in a crummy trailer than no one misses when the operation blows up.

    But the issue is winning the war on drugs by simply shooting the addicts and purveyors. That's seems to be the idea that Trump admires.
     
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