Goodbye Christopher Eric Hitchens...

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His support for the Iraq war sprang from a growing conviction that radical elements in the Islamic world posed a mortal danger to Western principles of political liberty and freedom of conscience. The first stirrings of that view came in 1989 with the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini’s fatwah against the novelist Salman Rushdie for his supposedly blasphemous words in “The Satanic Verses.” To Mr. Hitchens, the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, confirmed the threat.
In a political shift that shocked many of his friends and readers, he cut his ties to The Nation and became an outspoken advocate of the American-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 and a ferocious critic of what he called “Islamofascism.” Although he denied coining the word, he popularized it.
He remained unapologetic about the war. In 2006 he told the British newspaper The Guardian: “There are a lot of people who will not be happy, it seems to me, until I am compelled to write a letter to these comrades in Iraq and say: ‘Look, guys, it’s been real, but I’m going to have to drop you now. The political cost to me is just too high.’ Do I see myself doing this? No, I do not!”
Christopher Eric Hitchens was born on April 13, 1949, in Portsmouth, England. His father was a career officer in the Royal Navy and later earned a modest living as a bookkeeper.
He was a socialist who realized later in life how idiotic socialism is. He also recognized the threat radical Islam poses to freedom and the West.
May he rest in peace and may God forgive him for failing to believe.
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Changed thread title for you.

Thank you.

I attended a debate several years ago between the two Hitchens brothers. They were great. I always loved how Chris slammed the left...even though he was once a commie. He really was great at slamming the BJ Bubba and BJ Bubba's wife.


Some Hitchens watchers trace his disillusionment with the left to 1992, when he called for military intervention in Bosnia, but Hitchens said it began later, during the Clinton era. The rupture was complete after the
9/11
strikes in New York and Washington, when Hitchens drew a line between himself and other leading liberals, such as
Noam Chomsky
.
He was contemptuous of Chomsky and others who argued that American imperialism, by turning much of the world against the U.S., had drawn the terrorists here.

"I can only hint at how much I despise a left that thinks of
Osama bin Laden
as a slightly misguided anti-imperialist," Hitchens wrote later. "Instead of internationalism, we find among the left now a sort of affectless, neutralist, smirking isolationism" and "a masochistic refusal to admit that our own civil society has any merit."
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-christopher-hitchens-20111216,0,76.story?page=2



No Democrat angered him more than Clinton, whose presidency led to the bitter end of Hitchens' friendship with White House aide Sidney Blumenthal and other Clinton backers. As Hitchens wrote in his memoir, he found Clinton "hateful in his behavior to women, pathological as a liar, and deeply suspect when it came to money in politics."
He wrote the anti-Clinton book, "No One Left to Lie To," at a time when most liberals were supporting the president as he faced impeachment over his affair with Monica Lewinsky. Hitchens also loathed Hillary Rodham Clinton and switched his affiliation from independent to Democrat in 2008 just so he could vote against her in the presidential primary.
The terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, completed his exit. He fought with Vidal, Noam Chomsky and others who either suggested that U.S. foreign policy had helped cause the tragedy or that the Bush administration had advanced knowledge. He supported the Iraq war, quit The Nation, backed Bush for re-election in 2004 and repeatedly chastised those whom he believed worried unduly about the feelings of Muslims.
"It's not enough that faith claims to be the solution to all problems," he wrote in Slate in 2009 after a Danish newspaper apologized for publishing cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that led Muslim organizations to threaten legal action. "It is now demanded that such a preposterous claim be made immune from any inquiry, any critique, and any ridicule."
 

He was a socialist who realized later in life how idiotic socialism is. He also recognized the threat radical Islam poses to freedom and the West.
May he rest in peace and may God forgive him for failing to believe.
NOTE: Change thread title to 'Goodbye Christopher'​
Christopher Hitchens did change from being a socialist. However he was also a hater who attack what society believe was the enemy. Whether it be Christian or Islam. He attacks on Mother Teressa and others show his ignorance. But I agree God forgives so may he rest in peace.
 
Hitchens was a simple sell-out. He learned in the SWP, for instance, what 'fascism' was, and no-one educated could blather on about 'Islamo-fascist' in the half-witted way he did to please rich Americans. Even when he was in the Party he spent more time dining with the rich and powerful than doing any work, and he moved to America to make money, deciding that back there in history he could do a remake of Nineteenth Century anti-religion and thus be safely 'radical'. A standard case, sad but contemptible.
 
Christopher Hitchens did change from being a socialist. However he was also a hater who attack what society believe was the enemy. Whether it be Christian or Islam. He attacks on Mother Teressa and others show his ignorance. But I agree God forgives so may he rest in peace.


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Whats with this fascination with the so-abused-as-to-be-meaningless term "hater" ?

He has problems with the actions of m uslims ? how can one not ?
He has problems with the Clintons ? Again how can one not ?

I was curious about the Mom Teresa point you bring up. Found this and he does make excellent points. Its not easy for a Catholic to hear but that does not make it wrong. He's not ignorant but he does hold the bar higher for those who probably ought to need to have it held so. Sadly this refusal to even consider that the RCC has issues abetted the church's wrong responses to their sex abuse problems.

He's not the first recovering commie but I applaud anyone with the courage to speak the uncomfortable truth.
 
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Whats with this fascination with the so-abused-as-to-be-meaningless term "hater" ?

He has problems with the actions of m uslims ? how can one not ?
He has problems with the Clintons ? Again how can one not ?

I was curious about the Mom Teresa point you bring up. Found this and he does make excellent points. Its not easy for a Catholic to hear but that does not make it wrong. He's not ignorant but he does hold the bar higher for those who probably ought to need to have it held so. Sadly this refusal to even consider that the RCC has issues abetted the church's wrong responses to their sex abuse problems.

He's not the first recovering commie but I applaud anyone with the courage to speak the uncomfortable truth.

You deliberately use the McCarthyite 'commie' to hide the fact that you know nothing whatever about the phoney's background in the SWP. He knew much, much better, and he sold out to the scumbags, poor sick groveller.
 
You deliberately use the McCarthyite 'commie' to hide the fact that you know nothing whatever about the phoney's background in the SWP. He knew much, much better, and he sold out to the scumbags, poor sick groveller.


one can argue where a given person is on the sluding scale but as the entire range is undesirable its a moot point.
 
one can argue where a given person is on the sluding scale but as the entire range is undesirable its a moot point.

Like you like a drink, so you are a raving alcoholic? Like you support the Republicans so you believe in mass murder of all Muslims? Like Stalin killed lots of people to establish state capitalism, so those who opposed stalinism when it mattered (like the SWP) are Stalinists because you say so? You American extremists have been allowed to get away with intellectual bilge for far to long, boyo.
 
Like you like a drink, so you are a raving alcoholic? Like you support the Republicans so you believe in mass murder of all Muslims? Like Stalin killed lots of people to establish state capitalism, so those who opposed stalinism when it mattered (like the SWP) are Stalinists because you say so? You American extremists have been allowed to get away with intellectual bilge for far to long, boyo.


its closer to it not mattering whether its one drink or ten when you're getting behind the wheel of a car. You're a danger regardless of the number.
that socialists have negative effects of the citizens (as you point out) or just on the economic health of the state its all bad so why settle for the lesst murderous ?

but I do understand your need to divert from the meat of that post onto this hairsplitting exersize.
 
its closer to it not mattering whether its one drink or ten when you're getting behind the wheel of a car. You're a danger regardless of the number.
that socialists have negative effects of the citizens (as you point out) or just on the economic health of the state its all bad so why settle for the lesst murderous ?

but I do understand your need to divert from the meat of that post onto this hairsplitting exersize.

Capitalism creates poverty, racism, racist murder and war. Socialists oppose this disgusting filth. Please explain what you mean.
 
Capitalism creates poverty, racism, racist murder and war. Socialists oppose this disgusting filth. Please explain what you mean.


i suppose some individual socialists may feel as you suggest but all socialist govrrnments do quite the opposite.

perhaps you can explain why you can be a "good" socialist and remain so when your preferred system produces such failure.
 
i suppose some individual socialists may feel as you suggest but all socialist govrrnments do quite the opposite.

perhaps you can explain why you can be a "good" socialist and remain so when your preferred system produces such failure.

'My preferred system' was destroyed by a vast number of capitalist murders in Paris in 1871, in the Soviet Union by 1918 (replaced by State Capitalism as the eighteen murderous armies wiped out the - small - Russian working class), in Hungary and Munich at about the same time, by similar murderous capitalist armies, and in Spain by the late thirties. I think you are muddling up 'socialism' with your brainwasher's bilge, aren't you? Socialism is political rule by the vast working class majority in the brief period before we see off the State. Hitchens was a member of a party dedicated to 'socialism from below' under the slogan, 'Neither Moscow nor Washington but international socialism', so you will see why we who were then his comrades regard him as a scoundrel and a liar.
 
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'My preferred system' was destroyed by a vast number of capitalist murders in Paris in 1871, in the Soviet Union by 1918 (replaced by State Capitalism as the eighteen murderous armies wiped out the - small - Russian working class), in Hungary and Munich at about the same time, by similar murderous capitalist armies, and in Spain by the late thirties. I think you are muddling up 'socialism' with your brainwasher's bilge, aren't you? Socialism is political rule by the vast working class majority in the brief period before we see off the State. Hitchens was a member of a party dedicated to 'socialism from below' under the slogan, 'Neither Moscow nor Washington but international socialism', so you will see why we who were then his comrades regard him as a scoundrel and a liar.


socialism is as socialism does. can you not see that your textbook utopia cannot ever come to pass ?
 
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