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GOP voter fraud

Discussion in 'Elections & Political Parties' started by Popeye, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. Popeye

    Popeye Active Member

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    All those that have been complaining about ACORN...what do you have to say about this? We might start hearing about YPM in the media much in the same way we've heard about ACORN, all except for Faux News that is.


    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud18-2008oct18,0,1216330.story?track=rss
     
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    Being a registered republican doesn't control their vote at the polls on election day.

    As for being given a republican only ballot on primary day, Maybe it's the republicans who should be angry about what happened.
     
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    GenSeneca Well-Known Member

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    Does the GOP commit fraud? Yes, they do... I don't support it and will gladly do all in my power to stop it ON BOTH SIDES. That's more than can be said of you and your buddies...

    Dozens

    As opposed to the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS who just happen to be in swing states....

    The difference between me and you... you accept this activity from your side as a means to an end, while I stand against attempts at election rigging or fraud from both sides.

    Enjoy the following about GOP fraud:

    Now, you people in the peanut gallery... which person here is looking to solve the problems of Voter Fraud by encouraging the electorate to fight it on both sides.... and which one is tacitly supporting fraudulent activity by virtue of pretending their party has no involvement and instead chooses to point the indignant finger of blame to the other side?

    GOVERNMENT IS CORRUPT and people who vote for MORE GOVERNMENT are asking for MORE CORRUPTION.
     
  4. Popeye

    Popeye Active Member

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    You didn't read the entire article...YPM is under investigation in at least 4 states....70,000 voters. In fact, their activities in many ways mirror those of ACORN...right down to the paying for registrations.

    However, I don't see the condemnation of YPM from the usual suspects on this board, who couldn't wait to get their teeth into ACORN. Could it be because YPM is a GOP outfit? If so, it's just one more example of Republican hypocrisy on display.

     
  5. GenSeneca

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    it has never been charged with a crime.

    ACORN has several CONVICTIONS in every election cycle.

    And don't even think you can claim hypocrisy when you have EXCUSED ACORN for their activity... Like I said... You are totally cool with this happening on your side and make excuses for the same, nobody on your side has come out against ACORN and their tactics. At least I have spoken out against YPM and ACORN because I care about keeping our elections free of such filth.
     
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    I never excused ACORN's efforts, what I did say is that Bugs and Mickey likely wouldn't be voting. However, switching a voter's party allegiance without their knowledge, such as YPM is accused of doing, can have actual consequences.

     
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    Actually, I believe you said was that it wasn't the fault of ACORN and that these were the actions of "fringe" people in the group who were not acting on the direction of ACORN. There is plenty of evidence to the contrary, evidence that ACORN does in fact do these things intentionally but with the full knowledge that when caught... they can claim its a voter suppression attempt by the GOP... and People like yourself will parrot that talking point without holding ACORN accountable for their actions.

    ACORN is corrupt... so is YPM... join me in calling for them both to be either disbanded or reformed with proper investigation and public oversight. Unless of course you don't really want free and fair elections... then by all means, continue to play off ACORN's abuse as a "GOP trick" and keep attacking only the YPM as being corrupt.
     
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    I do believe the illegal actions attributed to ACORN are primarily the result of over zealous registration gatherers who are getting paid for each registration. We have had similar problems in my state with paid signature gatherers for initiatives.

    If ACORN was doing these things intentionally, don't you think they'd do a better job with the dummy registrations? I mean cartoon characters or the Dallas Cowboy football team is rather obvious.

    What I have been objecting to is the inference that somehow Obama and ACORN are working together in a coordinated effort to undermine the voting process. It seems much more likely that this whole hullabaloo is nothing more than another GOP voter suppression effort.
     
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    Obama wouldn't have to work directly with ACORN... they are a radical leftist group who want Democrats to win every election.... at any cost. Even when they get busted for voter fraud, its a $25k slap on the wrist for an organization that gets MILLIONS of taxpayer funding.

    Now, you still have failed to explain how having the names of fake voters, who you've already admited will not show up to vote, removed from the voter rolls disinfranchises any REAL voters.... So... Lets hear it. How does removing Mickey Mouse from the voter rolls equate to voter suppression of the poor and minorities?
     
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    Are you drunk, stoned, or just plain STUPID?? There are hundreds of thousands of documented cases of ACORN fraudulent DEMOCRAT votes, and you haven't had boo to say about it other than excuses, and you have the temerity to bring up maybe a DOZEN from the GOP side?

    GO TAKE YOUR MEDS!
     
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    Look , the deomcrat party has always been dirty when it comes to voter fraud . They were dirty when they were just radical liberals . Now they have turned into Socialist/Marxist and stealing elections is their mild part. James Carvel says if Obama does not win our cities will burn. Obama himself says he wants to take YOUR money and give it to those who PAY NO Federal iaxes.He wants to decide how you spend your money.Communist believe the same , Socialist tooo want to take YOUR money and "Spread it around " as OBAMA said.
    At least educate yourself concerning Obama and his agents , They are BAD for America! JOE the Plumber is an average American , just like me and you . We are the ones Obama wants to TAX , Tax, Tax and give it to those who PAY NO TAXES!! THINK!!
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    I guess you don't like facts or read the news? your Joe Plumber...actually gets a tax cut under Obama, he in fact does not make anything near 250,000, Owes back taxes still, and does not even have a license to be a plumber...In fact , anyone care to tell me what part of this whole Joe Plumber stuff actually was true?
     
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    He asked a question
    Obama's reply was the issue
    spreading the wealth is not what many Americans want to hear

    so what does obama do? Attack the guy who asked the question
    so what does the media do? dig up dirt about the guy who asked the question

    the question is what is important

    the reply even more important

    the rest is just wagging the tail to keep your eyes off the question and reply :)
     
  14. GenSeneca

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    One the Media should be following up on...
    An issue that Obama would rather not have to explain...
    Which is why Joe the plumber must be destroyed.
    There's your compassionate messiah, champion of the working class, attacking a guy for asking Obama a question that provided an embarrassing answer.
    But there's no Liberal Bias in the Media. :rolleyes: Having Obama explain himself could cost him the election, and they can't have that....
    And it only took 2 years for someone to ask such an obvious question...
    But.. we're supposed to ignore that and instead, attack Joe for having the temerity for asking....
    But there's no Liberal Bias in the Media.... :rolleyes:
     
  15. Pandora

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    Hey Gen I like your post!!

    and all of the lefties will come back with joe is late paying his taxes or joe cheated on his wife and totally ignore the Question and the reply
     
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