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Guess Who's Got Their Panties In A Bunch Now

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Greco, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. Greco

    Greco New Member

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    You can't make this stuff up. Well, I guess you could, but I'm not.

    Apparently Michelle Obama has planted an organic garden at the White House in partnership a local elementary school class. Who could possibly get upset over that? Why it's those wacky wingnuts of course. The big chemical companies have a lobbying group called the Mid-America Crop Life Association (MACA) and they're all in a dither over this concept of an organic garden. They're just frothing at the mouth because Michele Obama isn't using chemicals in her organic garden.

    The lobbying group actually sent an e-mail to their members and supports that said, "While a garden is a great idea, the thought of it being organic made us shudder." What a scary thought... an organic garden pruducing vegetables free of chemicals. MACA took it a step further and publised a letter they mailed to Michelle Obama asking her to use chemicals in her garden. Maybe it's just me, but I thought an organic garden was supposed to be chemical-free.

    Apparently the big chemical companies are really, really worried that those elementary school children won't get enough chemicals in their diet if this idea catches on.
     
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    Now if Michelle can only get those kids to eat veggies instead of Church's Chicken as their staple food source, we'll be in business.
     
  3. Pandora

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    Strange that any chem group would care if the garden is organic or not. I would be more afraid of being the Obama's and giving out the veggies and someone got sick because it was not properly maintained then sued for it.

    If the chem company seems pretty stupid if in fact this is even a true story
     
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    If that happened, I suspect the person suing would find out afterwards that they were suicidal and ended up on the side of a hill.
     
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    Pandora Well-Known Member

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    I bet you are right and they could not let that tragedy go to waste, They would spin it to the fact that we have no good mental health programs in our poor medical system and its just one more reason why it should be changed.
     
  6. Andy

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    Yeah as if we don't drink enough beer, smoke pot and do other drugs, to more than cover a few chemicals to protect us from food poisoning.

    Now I do think this was a silly over reaction to a non-event. I even find the title of it stupid. Organic garden? Oooo do show me the inorganic garden growing rocks and minerals!

    But joking aside, who the heck cares if Mrs. Obama plants an organic garden? It's the farmers that the companies need to sell their product to, not the Obama idiots in Washington. This makes them look silly.


    All this aside... I'm a bit confused why people support this 'organic movement'. You do realize that nearly every outbreak of food posioning lately, has been from 'organically grown foods' right? Remember the whole Spinach E-Coli thing? That was 'organically' grown Spinach.

    Here's another problem. Not everything sold as 'organic' is really 'organic'. Natural Selection Foods LLC, for example, that sells both organic, and conventional foods, found that a tainted crop of Spinach was sold in both conventional, and 'organic' bags. Of course you pay more for that expensive inked word "organic" written at the top.

    Finely, there's the issue with crop spraying. You think "organic" means you are not getting chemicals... but that's not really true. Nor is it safer. Most synthetic chemical sprays, are designed to break down naturally, before they ever make to the market, let alone your dinner table. Moreover, they are so effective, that only one spraying is required.

    But organic farming doesn't use synthetic sprays. Instead they use 'natural chemicals' that are not nearly as effective, and must be applied time and time again. Rotenone is a 'natural' insecticide extracted from the roots of tropical plants, and causes the symptoms of Parkinson's disease. Pyrethrum, is another 'natural' bug killer, the EPA classified as a human carcinogen.

    So you really think "organic" means you are not getting chemicals on your food? More likely, you are getting more chemicals on your food, and more dangerous ones at that.

    And the last little issue is with this nutty idea big business is against organic foods. That's such a joke, it'd be laughable if so many idiots didn't believe it. Sure, this specific association representing chemical companies is agianst it, but most of the 'organic' foods are pushed for by large corporations. Why? Well go look at the prices. Companies don't offer other choices, unless they can make a larger profit. This is basic business 101.

    If you sell Widgets, for $1 profit per widget, you are not going to then offer Widget Jr, so you can only earn $0.50 cents profit. No, you will only offer a new product if you can earn MORE profit. Similarly, big farming companies, only offer 'organic' Spinach, over conventional Spinach, because they can earn a larger profit off of it.

    Some of the biggest "organic" players in the game are Wal-Mart, General Mills, and Kelloggs.

    So I'm not sure why everyone has this "organic" push, but it's actually pretty stupid in my mind.

    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_42/b4005001.htm
    http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm?headline=2334
     
  7. ASPCA4EVER

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    Andy Said:
    Living our here in the center of America and having grown up on the 'farm' where everything was naturally home grown, we couldn't didn't have the chemicals that they do now (and we couldn't have afforded them had they been available back then either).

    But any chemical application has to be mixed/diluted with water...and I'm sure that you all have heard about the prescription drugs that are showing up in our water systems, water treatment plants processed water so add that to the nutrition intake from our daily servings of fresh vegetables and it's no wonder that we seem capable of poisoning ourselves in the way that we have!!!
     
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    here's a copy of the letter......

    I like the use of the term "conventional agriculture"........:rolleyes:
     
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    Interesting reading...but my take on that letter is: WTF, do they assume that this highly educated woman needed them to drum beat the "here we are the farming industry and this is what we do" diatribe. Makes me wonder how many of those pompous asses could trace their ancestry back to the slaves???

    I'm in hopes that the first lady handled that letter with all of the proper attention that it deserved...shredded and added to the compost pile ASAP...LOL
     
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    Yeah....we need to get back to "traditional, American-value$", regarding our food-supply, right?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Shaman your article seems to be about ethanol production and food aid...has that much to do with this thread?
     
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    Ah yes. Another classic completely unrelated article that doesn't even make a point. A Shaman classic non-response.
     
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    I think that Shaman believes that if he shakes his hips, waves his arms and says it three times that it makes it true. Anyway, that seems to be a definite mentality among his ilk. I can say that with as much authority as he can say anything about "conservatives".
     
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