Hawaii cancels Universal Health Care for children: running out of money

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Sure, the socialists assure us, Universal Health Care can succeed in the United States! No reason to think it might fail - all it needs is for the right people to be running it! Never mind that it fails every time it's tried.

One of the problems this time: People with health care, were dropping it to sign up for this "free" health care.

Can you imagine? The government offers them a way to save money, by getting "free" health care. And the people have the nerve to take them up on it! How anti-social(ist) can you get? They weren't supposed to do that! It's all THEIR fault, those greedy schlubs who should have paid while others got it for free! Don't they understand their proper place in the overall scheme of things? Why do they think they have the right to receive what they paid for with their tax money?

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439607,00.html

Hawaii Ending Universal Child Health Care After 7 Mos.

Friday, October 17, 2008

HONOLULU — Hawaii is dropping the only state universal child health care program in the country just seven months after it launched.

Gov. Linda Lingle's administration cited budget shortfalls and other available health care options for eliminating funding for the program. A state official said families were dropping private coverage so their children would be eligible for the subsidized plan.

"People who were already able to afford health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free," said Dr. Kenny Fink, the administrator for Med-QUEST at the Department of Human Services. "I don't believe that was the intent of the program."

State officials said Thursday they will stop giving health coverage to the 2,000 children enrolled by Nov. 1, but private partner Hawaii Medical Service Association will pay to extend their coverage through the end of the year without government support.

"We're very disappointed in the state's decision, and it came as a complete surprise to us," said Jennifer Diesman, a spokeswoman for HMSA, the state's largest health care provider. "We believe the program is working, and given Hawaii's economic uncertainty, we don't think now is the time to cut all funding for this kind of program."

Hawaii lawmakers approved the health plan in 2007 as a way to ensure every child can get basic medical help. The Keiki (child) Care program aimed to cover every child from birth to 18 years old who didn't already have health insurance — mostly immigrants and members of lower-income families.

It costs the state about $50,000 per month, or $25.50 per child — an amount that was more than matched by HMSA.

State health officials argued that most of the children enrolled in the universal child care program previously had private health insurance, indicating that it was helping those who didn't need it.

The Republican governor signed Keiki Care into law in 2007, but it and many other government services are facing cuts as the state deals with a projected $900 million general fund shortfall by 2011.
 
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so are you guys against kids getting health care then unless parents have money? you seem pretty happy to see kids lose health care.

You gotta remember, Pocket, that life begins at conception and ends at birth. Using big government to take away a woman's right to choose whether to have a baby is supremely important, but once the baby is here it no longer has value until it's old enough to be sent to Iraq.

I think we should spend more on our children and less on killing people, but that's just me and I quit being a Republican around the time of Goldwater's run for the Presidency.
 
once the baby is here it no longer has value until it's old enough to be sent to Iraq.

Well, that takes care of the de rigeur recitation of old, long-debunked liberal lies.

Back to the subject:
These leftist schemes all suffer from the same thing: Human nature that doesn't do what the leftists want it to, despite many attemtps and many failures.

Do you suppose these leftists will EVER learn?

:rolleyes:
 
Well, that takes care of the de rigeur recitation of old, long-debunked liberal lies.

Back to the subject:
These leftist schemes all suffer from the same thing: Human nature that doesn't do what the leftists want it to, despite many attemtps and many failures.

Do you suppose these leftists will EVER learn?

:rolleyes:

of course you fail to respond to them...because you can't...Its pretty clear, alot of kids just lost health care....and your happy about it
 
Well, that takes care of the de rigeur recitation of old, long-debunked liberal lies.

Back to the subject:
These leftist schemes all suffer from the same thing: Human nature that doesn't do what the leftists want it to, despite many attemtps and many failures.

Do you suppose these leftists will EVER learn?:rolleyes:

Well obviously you aren't able to LEARN :rolleyes:

Once again you are using a word that isn't spelled correctly...so not only is your signature still wrong you keep repeating "de rigeur" when it is supposed to be de rigueur...WTH does that say about 'YOU' :confused:

LMAO what a buffoon or would that be baboon...either way you would still be soooo wrong and then you just keep repeating it like that misspelling will some how make it right, someday somewhere, somehow! :cool:
 
You gotta remember, Pocket, that life begins at conception and ends at birth. Using big government to take away a woman's right to choose whether to have a baby is supremely important, but once the baby is here it no longer has value until it's old enough to be sent to Iraq.

I think we should spend more on our children and less on killing people, but that's just me and I quit being a Republican around the time of Goldwater's run for the Presidency.



you seem to have missed the point.

this legislation was intended to offer this care for those who would otherwise not have it. however it was so poorly written legialation that it was gameable so that anyone could drop their kids off their family plans, thereby saving them the expense, and use this which killed the funding model.

government programs are riddled with fraud because you have people who do not understand the system writing laws to regulate/manage it. this serves as yet another exampel of why government has no business in the medical biz.

want to get care for po folks ? BUY THEM POLICIES from people who do this for a living !
 
you seem to have missed the point.

this legislation was intended to offer this care for those who would otherwise not have it. however it was so poorly written legialation that it was gameable so that anyone could drop their kids off their family plans, thereby saving them the expense, and use this which killed the funding model.

government programs are riddled with fraud because you have people who do not understand the system writing laws to regulate/manage it. this serves as yet another exampel of why government has no business in the medical biz.

want to get care for po folks ? BUY THEM POLICIES from people who do this for a living !

Republicans know how to write laws? After 8 years under Bush no one had written a law to help cover the kids, had they? At least SOMEBODY is trying to do something, even if their effort was largely wasted. Why not help with this? Don't ALL kids deserve health care? Why not help instead of standing on the sidelines sniping?
 
Republicans know how to write laws? After 8 years under Bush no one had written a law to help cover the kids, had they? At least SOMEBODY is trying to do something, even if their effort was largely wasted. Why not help with this? Don't ALL kids deserve health care? Why not help instead of standing on the sidelines sniping?


I gave you the answer. Last sentence.

And no, nobody "deserves" it. Its a service same as any other. If you want to manage irresponsible people's impact ont he system then fine. Just do it effectively.
 
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of course you fail to respond to them...
I've responded to them many times. And yet you and your ilk keep re-introducing the same fibs as though they were new and hadn't been refuted.

Time for you to grow a memory, and start trying to keep up, instead of always demanding that the grownups repeat themselves endlessly for your benefit.

:rolleyes:
 
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