Health-Care: TORT REFORM STILL Bogus, "conservative" B.S.!!!

[Mr. Shaman]

"...largely overlooked in the heated discussions of damage award caps, special health courts, expert panels and national compensation schedules is the inescapable truth that the medical malpractice system has only a negligible impact on overall American health care costs. Republican horror stories of a torrent of baseless malpractice suits producing "jackpot justice" that fuels rising premiums for physicians and patients alike while driving doctors from practice simply don't comport with reality."

You're runnin'-outta-gas, "conservatives".

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[chestnut]

Tort reform should be left to the states.

As a matter of fact, so should health care, unless anyone can point to a place in the constutition that grants the govt powers to create a universal system.

This president needs to focus on the economy and our international interests.

 

[AtheismIsReality]

Tort reform should be left to the states.

As a matter of fact, so should health care, unless anyone can point to a place in the constutition that grants the govt powers to create a universal system.

This president needs to focus on the economy and our international interests.

I do believe all the powers not in the Constitution are reserved to the States and ultimately the people. With that right, I do not see a constraint that says that We the People may not tell our representatives to create some kind of scheme to handle an issue not explicitly stated in the Constitution. As one of our bedrock principles is that the government's just powers are derived from the consent of the governed.

I know, it would have been easier if the Founders had actually spelled out exactly how our government should work.

 

[TheFranklinParty]

It is not the actual lawsuits that are the issue. It's the defensive medicine that it forces all medical professional to practice. One hospital suggested that 20% of all patient costs were do to defensive medicine. If you can even take half of it away by eliminating escalating and cross state lawsuit practices you have enough to cover the 8 to 12 million people who don't have healthcare.

 

[Greco]

"As a matter of fact, so should health care, unless anyone can point to a place in the constutition that grants the govt powers to create a universal system."

The Constitution was not written to cover every facet of life or government. Where in the Constituion does it authorize the FAA, interstate highways, the building of dams, NASA, the FCC, operating a national grid, the Atomic Energy Commission, on and on?

It's an ignorant argument that everything should be in the Constituion.

 

[TheFranklinParty]

"As a matter of fact, so should health care, unless anyone can point to a place in the constutition that grants the govt powers to create a universal system."

The Constitution was not written to cover every facet of life or government. Where in the Constituion does it authorize the FAA, interstate highways, the building of dams, NASA, the FCC, operating a national grid, the Atomic Energy Commission, on and on?

It's an ignorant argument that everything should be in the Constituion.

I'm not sure who you were pointing that shot at, but I'll respond. The key is that if it doesn't fall within the Constitution then the States have jurisdiction. If we want Federal control over an issue or an agency then that can be done by a Constitutional Amendment. Much of what you referenced actually falls within the constitution and and the powers of the Congress and the President.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Tort reform should be left to the states.

As a matter of fact, so should health care, unless anyone can point to a place in the constutition that grants the govt powers to create a universal system.

This president needs to focus on the economy and our international interests.

How have "conservatives" become so disconnected from Reality?????

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January 10, 2006​

"Rising health care co$t$, already threatening many basic industries, now consume 16 percent of the nation's economic output -- the highest proportion ever, the government said yesterday in its latest calculation.

The nation's health care bill continued to grow substantially faster than inflation and wages, increasing by almost 8 percent in 2004, the most recent year with near-final numbers.

Political, medical and economic leaders and experts have long warned that health care cost trends will gradually overwhelm the economy, and many companies now complain that employee and retiree health costs are making them less competitive."

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"As a matter of fact, so should health care, unless anyone can point to a place in the constutition that grants the govt powers to create a universal system."

The Constitution was not written to cover every facet of life or government. Where in the Constituion does it authorize the FAA, interstate highways, the building of dams, NASA, the FCC, operating a national grid, the Atomic Energy Commission, on and on?

It's an ignorant argument that everything should be in the Constituion.

....But, an argument every "conservative"-bubblehead attempts to make!!



TAKE IT, AWAYYYYYYYYYYYY.....BUBBLEHEAD!!!!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

It is not the actual lawsuits that are the issue. It's the defensive medicine that it forces all medical professional to practice. One hospital suggested that 20% of all patient costs were do to defensive medicine. If you can even take half of it away by eliminating escalating and cross state lawsuit practices you have enough to cover the 8 to 12 million people who don't have healthcare.

Your family's predisposed to EPISODES OF MASOCHISM, right?



Here, then, is a look at Republican Malpractice Myths:

1. An Explosion of Malpractice Litigation
2. A System Plagued by Frivolous Lawsuits
3. Rising Damage Awards Key to Higher Malpractice Premiums
4. Rising Malpractice Insurance Rates Driving Doctors from Practice
5. Medical Malpractice Reform Would Save U.S. $200 Billion Annually
6. Defensive Medicine Costs $200 Billion a Year
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"CBO now estimates that implementing a typical package of tort reform proposals nationwide would reduce total U.S. health care spending by about 0.5 percent (about $11 billion in 2009). That figure is the sum of a direct reduction in spending of 0.2 percent from lower medical liability premiums and an additional indirect reduction of 0.3 percent from slightly less utilization of health care services."