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Discussion in 'Introductions' started by ChairmanMeow, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. ChairmanMeow

    ChairmanMeow New Member

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    Hey dudes and dudettes!!

    I thought joining this forum would be fun because I am bored with all the people I talk politics with around here! And maybe this will be more interesting!

    I am basically a typical bleeding-heart liberal; I am a member of the green party, I want Dennis Kucinich to be president, I Love!! Utopian Socialism and I want to buy a Prius!

    . . . That basically sums it up

    Hi!
     
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    Hello and welcome!!
     
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    palerider Well-Known Member

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    A prius? Didn't you know that over the course of its expected life, a prius is responsible for more environmental damage than a Hummer?

    Liberals always have been and remain the kings of unintended consequences.
     
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    Well in this case its unintended consequences in an effort to stop a problem nobody else is doing anything about anyway and are causing knowingly.
     
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    They all are. The mess caused by the welfare state, the millions upon millions who have died as a result of the DDT ban (which they now admit was a mistake), environmental damage, and on and on and on.

    Liberals love, and are eager change and denigrate conservatives because they view change more cautiously. Common sense and experience tells one, however, that the torch of progress is all too often a devouring conflagration. The massive environmental damage of the prius (and other hybrids) is just one more example in a very long and sad list.
     
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    What millions upon millions? Do you have a source for that?
     
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    Unintended consequences aren't the results of just liberal policies. Iraq is a clear example of that.
     
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    Easy enough to verify coyote. Since DDT was banned in 1972, even the world health organization estimates that 50 million have died from malaria.

    Iraq is the result of war. War is unpredictable at best and people go into it with that knowledge. Any tactician will tell you that all of the best laid plans are out the window once the enemy is engaged.

    Under the heading of unintended consequences are things like the destruction of the black family via the "compassionate" welfare plans of the 40's and 50's. 50 million people dying because of the ban on DDT. Efforts by greens to plant forests to help fix carbon and nitrogen in the soil that were actually ecological disasters when it was learned that the prairie grasses that were turned under to make room for the trees were actually 4 times more efficent at fixing nitrogen and carbon than the forests that replaced them.

    The list goes on and on coyote and the vast bulk are the direct result of liberal thinking (or should I say not thinking?).
     
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    Iraq was not the result of war. It was the result of short sighted foreign policy goals that were put in place long before 9/11. It was the result of ideologues who had not grounding in reality. It was the result of people in power who ignored the advice of those who had a better handle on the politics of the middle east and who clearly warned of the consequences of taking out Saddam.

    Again, unintended consequences are not the sole responsibility of liberals. For example:

    - the dust bowl, a result of the wheat boom, land speculation, opening of indian and grazing lands to agriculture, farming methods unsuitable to the plains, the ripping up of the prairie grass which was what held the soil in place during the regular periods of long drought...unintended consequences of rapid expansion of agriculture with no attention paid to the warnings of those who knew better

    - unintended consequencs of rapid industrialization leading to toxic levels of lead, mercury and other substances in rivers, fish and soil among other things.

    - unintended consequences of huge mega-agricultural complexes leading to run off into the Chesapeake Bay and other areas, altering the ecology, killing off fish and shell fish and affecting the livilihoods of those who depend on it.

    and on and on and on.


    No, it was not the "vast bulk". Frankly I think you have to blame human nature and cultural short sightedness. We want solutions NOW - immediate - not later. We, as a people, don't think long term. And that is not an issue of liberal vs. conservative.
     
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    The fact you can blame unintended consequences squarely on liberals is totally and utterly ridiculous.
     
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    Up your butt, Jobu.
    Nothing like an argument to ruin the welcoming party.
    Nice to meet you, Meow!

    I'm an ultra-conservative, so I'm sure we'll agree on pretty much everything. ha ha ha!
     
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    I Put my egotistical mic down, and aimed for sumtin greater than fame and money...a hustle that only existed in the mind, respect that can lure one to the depths of sins.....REspect is not somethin you earn in the streets...respect is something you
    get from hard work...thru out my 19 years of livin, 2005 was the defining year,,,,the key to sucess is to be kind, and to never fall inlove,especially with yourself....
    well i just want to intruduce my self then im IVAN 21 yrs olad well kind'a young but i love listining and joining to any political issues and represent the voice of the young people.. a lot of youth right now that are into clubbing and party but they didnt know that the future lies on our leaders then if they would not participate what will happen to the next generation then???
    well thats why i always listen to THE ALEX BENNETT PROGRAM

    many thanks!
    aNgeLtRexx
     
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    Is that you in the avatar?
     
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    that's me in my avatar. it's an old picture. sorry I'm naked.
     

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