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Hillary tells India US helped cause climate change, cites no evidence or studies

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  1. Little-Acorn

    Little-Acorn Well-Known Member

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    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g3lGTbp2KLrD4mzkA_ebmlLJFg7wD99GR47G1

    Sec. Clinton visits India, urges help vs. terror
    By ROBERT BURNS (AP) – 1 day ago

    MUMBAI, India — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton opened a three-day visit to India on Saturday by urging India not to repeat American mistakes in contributing to global pollution, and she passionately defended U.S. demands for help in fighting terrorism.

    "We acknowledge now with President Obama that we have made mistakes in the United States, and we along with other developed countries have contributed most significantly to the problem that we face with climate change," she said. "We are hoping a great country like India will not make the same mistakes."

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    Ummm, what you mean "we", Kimosabe?

    Mrs. Clinton, a few hysterics "acknowledge" the US somehow helped climate change, but none of them is able to point to any study or evidence supporting that silly idea. As you should know, since you can't point to one either. :cheers2:

    If you want to count yourself among those nutty people, feel free. But please count sensible Americans who know better, OUT when you try to claim "we".
     
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  2. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    just about evry major report has stated clearly, mankind with pollution has caused at least part of the global warming issue ....and its a basic fact that the US is one of the biggest polluters in the world.....so now all the smart people put 2 and 2 together... maybe one day you can as well.
     
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    No, actually most reports do not support that theory.

    95% of the green house effect is due to water.

    Only 4% of the green house effect is due to CO2. (1% removed for methane and other trace gasses)

    Man made CO2 is only 3.5% of the yearly emitted CO2.

    Therefore we at best, are responsible for 3.5% of that 4%... or 0.14% of the greenhouse effect.

    Since the total greenhouse effect of the entire planet is only 33ºC, that means we are responsible for roughly 0.046ºC Less than one half of 1 tenth of a degree Celsius, is the total cumulative effect of the entire CO2 output of the human race to date. You can't even feel a temperature change that small, let alone change the climate of the entire planet with such a little effect.

    We would have to triple the man-made CO2 out put from the entire planet to even reach a combined effect of over 1 tenth of a degree Celsius. Which isn't going to happen even if we made it a goal.

    To top it all off, that all assumes that the temperature to CO2 ratio is linear, which it isn't. The green house effect is logarithmic, or follows the principals of diminishing returns. In other words, as CO2 increases, the amount of heat increase gets smaller and smaller.

    The bottom line is, the CO2 global warming garbage, is a hoax.
     
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    Yeah....right....it was India's Industrial Revolution that created the present-demands for more energy & less government-interference.

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    oooooooooooooooooooooo.....most reports, huh??

    How unfortunate you forgot to reference any one o' them.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    And the few that try, never cite any evidence either. A few cite other reports, but... you guessed it... those other reports in turn, don't cite any evidence or studies actually showing that man has had any actual effect on climate change.

    The whole bizarre "Manmade Global Warming" campaign (or is it global cooling this month?) is based on nothing but dreaming and wishful thinking, by people who want government to step in as a result and control even more than they already do.
     
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    I am sure you have seen, heard, or can find the white house ( even under Bush) UN, and other major studies...I could also post the sun moves around the earth...would you like me to site my sources as well for that?
     
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    PFOS, are you assuming Mr. ShamMan wants honest debate??? :rolleyes:

    He is a fly in the face, merely trying to distract.
     
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    Ignore this post, it would not let me delete it, it was ment in referance to someone a diff post lol
     
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    Well that's because nearly all the reports that supposedly support man-made global warming, actually don't.

    For example, the report on growing amounts of green house gasses in the atmosphere, actually supported the opposite conclusion. For example, they omit water as a greenhouse gas, even though water is 95% of the green house effect.

    When you consider water among the gasses, CO2 is barely a blip on the radar as it were.

    Also from the same report they point out the all the green house gasses on the entire planet combined (minus water), is less than one half of 1% of our atmosphere. Mathematically speaking, it would be impossible for such an infinitesimally small tiny fraction of our atmosphere to somehow dramatically change the entire planet.

    Another report leftist idiots claim supports man-made global warming when it doesn't, is the Ice Core samples that the blow-hard Al Gore loves to blab about on his hot-air tour.

    The theory is that there is a correlation between CO2 and temperature over time. Of course there is, but they assume it's that temperature follows CO2 levels. In fact the reverse it true. CO2 follows temperature.
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    As you can see, the temperature changes first, than CO2 follows. CO2 does not drive climate change and never has in history. It's another case where their own research and report proves the opposite claim.
     
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