Hillary To Be Nominated

[pocketfullofshells]

It really isn't over yet. It will be after the convention. If people are posting that Hillary still has a chance AFTER the convention then that will be pretty silly. But, Obama never got the needed delegates on his own. Neither did Hillary. It was the super D. who said they are GOING to vote for Obama that put him over the top. Those Supers are NOT committed until they actually cast the vote at the convention. After that they can not change their minds and it’s in stone.

A large number of Obama’s Super D’s were first Hillary Super D's. They swayed to him, they can sway back. TILL THE CONVENTION


so it is not over, but in 2 weeks it will be and after that who ever comes out on top we live with.

If ABC news decides to release the story as they did with Rev. Wright, and Edwards before that convention I bet those supers will not vote for him. If that story stays suppressed till after the convention, he will be the nominee not just the presumptive nominee. And the story will be released at an even better time OCTOBER

I am not saying officaly its over, but rather for all normal likey events , its over, him not winning in 2 weeks is like a .5%chance

 

[Sihouette]

Sihouette, I would not think you would talk about Hillary having a chance (AFTER) the convention IF Obama gets it. I would not understand if you did~ NoObamanation

Roger. 10-4.

Copy that..

 

[Pandora]

I am not saying officaly its over, but rather for all normal likey events , its over, him not winning in 2 weeks is like a .5%chance

I think 5% is reasonable. It doesnt seem that you like Hillary much so your hopes are someplace else. But some people really like Hillary so they are hoping that 5% pans out

I dont blame them, we all want our guy or girl

 

[Pandora]

Roger. 10-4.

Copy that..

Is that unreasonable thinking on my part? It could be I dont know.

I like to guess where other peoples political thinking is. Yours is the hardest to figure out.

It wont bother me if you still post stuff that Hillary has a chance after the convention, I just wouldnt understand it then.

 

[Sihouette]

Some things aren't meant to be understood until a much later time.

You may consider my efforts thusly.

Suffice it to say that I love my country deeply and dearly and have an innate and profound sense that transcends explanation, that Hillary Clinton is the only person running for the Presidency of our United States who is qualified to stop the runaway train(s), restore its solvency, integrity, position in the world arena and rebuild our lifeblood: the middle class.

I absolutely and unequivocally know beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is the only candidate who can do this.

If this particular candidate's name was Elmer Fudd, and I had the same profound and innate knowledge of him, I would be backing him instead and giving Hillary the middle finger.

I'm not about personalities at all, and all about logic and brutally honest commen sense. I am deeply worried about the direction our nation is going and know, factually, that it will be in dire, dire straits if some Bush-clone like McCain or some slick smooth-talking hopester schoolboy like Obama tries to take a stab at it.

If our country was a company and we were all stockholders who had a direct investment in the company's future, a company that was struggling and on the verge of bankruptcy, we would've already hired the candidate that makes sense and wouldn't even waste our time with this conversation.

 

[Pandora]

Some things aren't meant to be understood until a much later time.

You may consider my efforts thusly.

Suffice it to say that I love my country deeply and dearly and have an innate and profound sense that transcends explanation, that Hillary Clinton is the only person running for the Presidency of our United States who is qualified to stop the runaway train(s), restore its solvency, integrity, position in the world arena and rebuild our lifeblood: the middle class.

I absolutely and unequivocally know beyond a shadow of a doubt that she is the only candidate who can do this.

If this particular candidate's name was Elmer Fudd, and I had the same profound and innate knowledge of him, I would be backing him instead and giving Hillary the middle finger.

I'm not about personalities at all, and all about logic and brutally honest commen sense. I am deeply worried about the direction our nation is going and know, factually, that it will be in dire, dire straits if some Bush-clone like McCain or some slick smooth-talking hopester schoolboy like Obama tries to take a stab at it.

If our country was a company and we were all stockholders who had a direct investment in the company's future, a company that was struggling and on the verge of bankruptcy, we would've already hired the candidate that makes sense and wouldn't even waste our time with this conversation.

I totally respect how you feel about Hillary, and I have not had any doubts that you really love your country. I cant say I agree she would be good for the country, only less damaging than Obama. McCain I do not think is like Bush, If I thought he was I would be wanting to vote for him. I would vote for Bush a third term before I would vote for any of the guys running today. Though I do not agree with a lot of what Bush has done, HE SPENDS TO MUCH MONEY!!!!!! AND HE DID NOT CUT ANY OF THE STUPID SOCIAL PROGRAMS!!!!

I am sure you disagree with me about that, but that is the best thing about our country, we can disagree openly and not get shot in the head or come up missing.

I wish I had someone that actually had a chance of running/winning that I could back. Romney was the closest I came and he doesnt really have a chance now, so I am reduced to who I hate the least. Unlike you who has someone you really feel good about backing. I would rather be in your position.

 

[Sihouette]

Look, nowhere did I say Hillary Clinton was flawless.

Don't mistake me. She is imperfect and human.

Common sense dictates however that she is THE MOST QUALIFIED for the job we americans will be hiring for in November.

The Clinton track record spells good foreign relations in a time when our reputation is in the toilet. It spells good economic prognosis, when our economy teeters on the brink. It spells logical approaches to energy woes, when BigOil lies at the heart of nearly every problem our country is facing. Those things people love to hate about Hillary, are her very assets: Her association with Bill, who like him or not, ran this country into the strongest economy it ever had. Her Cheshire-poise that has won over world leaders. Her abrasive tenacity that can confront a T-Rex like BigOil and come away wiping blood off her knife with her apron...

These are the things that make this imperfect candidate the most qualified in this particular and specific day and age.

If times were different and we needed a clown to keep us entertained in times of ease and plenty, we'd elect Obama or McCain...or for that matter keep Bush in for a third or fourth term.

But times are dire, and electing a hopeful applicant that has no real experience for the job he's applying for, over a grossly, obviously more-qualified candidate is just lunacy.

It's a suicide plan.

 

[Pandora]

Oh I am sorry, I did not mean to suggest you were a blind Hillary supporter who could not see her flaws. I beleive that about the obama followers, but I never thought that about you.

I just dont personally think she would make a good president, just less damaging than "the One"

McCain and her I like equally, I would actually have a hard time picking between her and him, it would come down to the VP I supose, where with McCain Obama its a fairly easy choice but not for love of McCain.

 

[top gun]

Top gun the only person saying he failed the lie detector test is the man Obama’s people paid to look at the test. and that man lied about his credentials in reading such tests.

After the convention either he will be the nominee or he will lose it to Hillary, I think he will end up being the nominee. After that date no one will be posting Hillary having any chance to be the nominee

but this story about Donald Young's murder is not going to go away, even if Obama gets elected the story will stay untill it is uncovered

That's ridiculous in it's entirety as the "Obama" people had nothing to do with it in any way. In fact it would have been a great story to break if any of Sinclair's BS had been true... which of course it wasn't and he has now recanted the whole made up story and apologized.

Secondly the polygraph examiner himself interprets his own findings and that guy giving the test was like golden in the world of polygraph tests.

Larry Sinclair Polygraph Test Indicates "Deception" In Obama Claims
February 25, 2008 - 3:41pm. Elections Elections 2008 News Politics U.S. Politics

The Minnesota man who claims to have had sex with and taken cocaine with Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama voluntarily participated in a series of polygraph tests over the weekend. Whitehouse.com initially offered Larry Sinclair $10,000 to take a polygraph test, and $100,000 if he passed it and was shown to be telling the truth.

Whitehouse.com acquired the services of two expert polygraph examiners, who have examined Mr. Sinclair. The results of the first polygraph examination by Dr. Ed Gelb (Former President of the American Polygraph Association) indicate "deception" in regards to both the drug and sex claims by Sinclair.

With regards to the $10,000 payout that Larry Sinclair had agreed to for taking the polygraph test, it has been modified upon Sinclair's request and Whitehouse.com's approval. Prior to taking the test, Sinclair asked for a reduced payout to cover some of his mother's debt.

The first polygraph test is said to have taken approximately four hours. Prior to administering the tests, to be sure there would not be any potential interferences, Sinclair was subjected to a drug test. Sinclair passed the drug test, and was cleared to take the polygraph test.

 

[top gun]

Yeah, that's the thing about corpses. When they aren't buried properly, they begin to surface and stink up the place quite a bit.

I'm with ya! Man it's a good thing Hillary didn't get the nomination or we'd have corpses popping up all over the place! Man we all dodged a bullet here!!!


Clinton Casualties

A "Casualty" is defined as anyone threatened with harm or actually harmed because of their knowledge of and/or involvement in one or more of the Clinton Scandals.

The following is a partial list of a large number of persons who who are presumed to be "Casualties" of the various Clinton scandals. President Clinton had promised his political supporters in Arkansas he will devote a lot of time going after detractors who pursued him on Whitewater and other ethical questions. (USA Today, November 8, 1996). It is a partial list because new addditions are added regularly and the full extent of being associated with Bill Clinton is not completly known.

The accounting of these mysterious deaths began in 1994 when in a letter to congressional leaders, former Rep. William Dannemeyer listed 24 people with some connection to Clinton who had died "under other than natural circumstances" and called for hearings on the matter. Dannemeyer's list of "suspicious deaths" was largely taken from one compiled by Linda Thompson, an Indianapolis lawyer, containing the names of 34 people she believed died suspiciously and who had ties to the Clinton family.

Some of the "Casualties" were openly murdered, but many were killed in such a way so that their deaths could be ruled accidents or suicides. This was especially true if they died in Arkansas where the medical examiners routinely ruled apparent murders as either accidents or suicides when it suited political purposes. In fact, this was so common that it was often referred to as "Arkancide" or "Arkansas Suicide".

"An apparent pattern of violence and intimidation has befallen a number of men and women with ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton, their partners in business, law and politics, and people investigating their affairs..." (The Arizona Republic, June 7, 1994)

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VINCE FOSTER MURDER

Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at
Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head,
ruled a suicide in spite of evidence to the contrary. He knew too
much about the Waco raid, and he was sickened by it. Waco was
ordered by Hillary Clinton thru Web Hubbel and Janet Reno.


Here how about a YouTube on all the Clinton killings... man this stuff IS serious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYStaILsUw

 

[Sihouette]

McCain and her I like equally, I would actually have a hard time picking between her and him, it would come down to the VP I supose, where with McCain Obama its a fairly easy choice but not for love of McCain.

Know what I have fantasies of? A Clinton/POWELL ticket....eh??

Could you imagine that? Hillary Clinton's experience and tenacity next to Colin Powell's military experience and grit?

Ohhhh...

I'm getting all quiverry. Can you imagine the votes those two would rope in? I know I know, Colin is a republican. But after they mislead him and then cast him out as yet another BigOil fall guy, (how many political and military careers have they lain bloodied on that altar to date? I've lost count..) I don't think he's "all warm and fuzzy" towards the GOP. Getting him to take a Clinton VP positioin might not be as hard a task as initially it would seem..

 

[Pandora]

That's ridiculous in it's entirety as the "Obama" people had nothing to do with it in any way. In fact it would have been a great story to break if any of Sinclair's BS had been true... which of course it wasn't and he has now recanted the whole made up story and apologized.

Secondly the polygraph examiner himself interprets his own findings and that guy giving the test was like golden in the world of polygraph tests.

Larry Sinclair Polygraph Test Indicates "Deception" In Obama Claims
February 25, 2008 - 3:41pm. Elections Elections 2008 News Politics U.S. Politics

The Minnesota man who claims to have had sex with and taken cocaine with Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama voluntarily participated in a series of polygraph tests over the weekend. Whitehouse.com initially offered Larry Sinclair $10,000 to take a polygraph test, and $100,000 if he passed it and was shown to be telling the truth.

Whitehouse.com acquired the services of two expert polygraph examiners, who have examined Mr. Sinclair. The results of the first polygraph examination by Dr. Ed Gelb (Former President of the American Polygraph Association) indicate "deception" in regards to both the drug and sex claims by Sinclair.

With regards to the $10,000 payout that Larry Sinclair had agreed to for taking the polygraph test, it has been modified upon Sinclair's request and Whitehouse.com's approval. Prior to taking the test, Sinclair asked for a reduced payout to cover some of his mother's debt.

The first polygraph test is said to have taken approximately four hours. Prior to administering the tests, to be sure there would not be any potential interferences, Sinclair was subjected to a drug test. Sinclair passed the drug test, and was cleared to take the polygraph test.

can you post where you got this information from? In the obama sex limo thread I posted the link to what I am talking about, I am to lazy to go through all those threads to find it but they are there.

If you could post where you got this information I would like to go read it please,

thank you

 

[Pandora]

Know what I have fantasies of? A Clinton/POWELL ticket....eh??

Could you imagine that? Hillary Clinton's experience and tenacity next to Colin Powell's military experience and grit?

Ohhhh...

I'm getting all quiverry. Can you imagine the votes those two would rope in? I know I know, Colin is a republican. But after they mislead him and then cast him out as yet another BigOil fall guy, (how many political and military careers have they lain bloodied on that altar to date? I've lost count..) I don't think he's "all warm and fuzzy" towards the GOP. Getting him to take a Clinton VP positioin might not be as hard a task as initially it would seem..

The problem there is Hillary is more on the line of socialist and Powell is not, so it seems it would not work well.

There are people in both partys who just flat hate her guts. I am not one of them, though I fully admit I do not trust her and generally dont like her, I felt bad for how she got treated in the primary.

If she were the nominee people who might sit this one out would come out in droves to vote against her.

She is a whole lot more hated than I think you realize. though she is still better than Obama.

 

[top gun]

can you post where you got this information from? In the obama sex limo thread I posted the link to what I am talking about, I am to lazy to go through all those threads to find it but they are there.

If you could post where you got this information I would like to go read it please,

thank you

Google: Sinclair failed polygraph... you'll get pages and pages from multiple sites. I've clipped from about 4 different ones myself.

 

[top gun]

Know what I have fantasies of? A Clinton/POWELL ticket....eh??

Could you imagine that? Hillary Clinton's experience and tenacity next to Colin Powell's military experience and grit?

Ohhhh...

I'm getting all quiverry. Can you imagine the votes those two would rope in?

Heck you're getting quivery!

It's Colin Powell that would be getting all quivery! He'd be fearin' for his own life after he read all the stories about people the Clinton's have killed that were once close to them in the past! It's the Arkansas Chainsaw Massacre I tell ya!

I'm thinkin' all those "Clinton" dead bodies would probably scare away a straight laced ex-military man. But he is pretty brave and probably owns a gun... but then Foster had a gun and that didn't save him. I don't know it's risky!

Clinton Casualties

A "Casualty" is defined as anyone threatened with harm or actually harmed because of their knowledge of and/or involvement in one or more of the Clinton Scandals.

The following is a partial list of a large number of persons who who are presumed to be "Casualties" of the various Clinton scandals. President Clinton had promised his political supporters in Arkansas he will devote a lot of time going after detractors who pursued him on Whitewater and other ethical questions. (USA Today, November 8, 1996). It is a partial list because new addditions are added regularly and the full extent of being associated with Bill Clinton is not completly known.

The accounting of these mysterious deaths began in 1994 when in a letter to congressional leaders, former Rep. William Dannemeyer listed 24 people with some connection to Clinton who had died "under other than natural circumstances" and called for hearings on the matter. Dannemeyer's list of "suspicious deaths" was largely taken from one compiled by Linda Thompson, an Indianapolis lawyer, containing the names of 34 people she believed died suspiciously and who had ties to the Clinton family.

Some of the "Casualties" were openly murdered, but many were killed in such a way so that their deaths could be ruled accidents or suicides. This was especially true if they died in Arkansas where the medical examiners routinely ruled apparent murders as either accidents or suicides when it suited political purposes. In fact, this was so common that it was often referred to as "Arkancide" or "Arkansas Suicide".

"An apparent pattern of violence and intimidation has befallen a number of men and women with ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton, their partners in business, law and politics, and people investigating their affairs..." (The Arizona Republic, June 7, 1994)

----------------------------------------------

VINCE FOSTER MURDER

Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at
Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head,
ruled a suicide in spite of evidence to the contrary. He knew too
much about the Waco raid, and he was sickened by it. Waco was
ordered by Hillary Clinton thru Web Hubbel and Janet Reno.


Here how about a YouTube on all the Clinton killings... man this stuff IS serious stuff! I never realized just how much truth there was to it before!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HYStaILsUw