HUMAN RIGHTS......the downside

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Friends, you should take note of the following and make sure that you it does not happen where you live. For us, its too late we have had our sovereignty sold down the river by bull**** Human Right's legislation.........


Abu Qatada awarded compensation by European judges for 'breach of human rights'

Radical preacher Abu Qatada has been awarded £2,500 compensation by European judges who ruled that his detention without trial breached his human rights.

Qatada lost the latest round of his UK legal battle to stay in Britain on Wednesday.

But 24 hours later he won a separate case in the European Court of Human Rights that his detention under anti-terror laws introduced by the Government after the 2001 attacks on America violated the Human Rights Convention.

Other detainees under the rules - none named by the court - also received similar modest cash awards. The human rights judges said the amounts were "substantially lower" than awards granted in previous cases of "unlawful detention".

This was "in view of the fact that the detention scheme (the Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001) was devised in the face of a public emergency, and as an attempt to reconcile the need to protect the UK public against terrorism with the obligation not to send the applicants back to countries where they faced a real risk of ill-treatment".

Qatada and the others were rounded up in the wake of a perceived new post-2001 terror threat.

But the Human Rights Court said the terms of the detention, even allowing for the special circumstances, violated three provisions of the Human Rights Convention - the right to liberty and security, the right to have the lawfulness of detention decided by a court and the right to compensation for unlawful detention.

But the judges rejected a fourth complaint, declaring that the detention of Qatada and the others did not amount to a violation of a Human Rights Convention ban on "torture and inhuman or degrading treatment".

The ruling acknowledged that at the time of the detentions, "there had been a public emergency threatening the life of the nation".

But it said the issue was whether the legal measures adopted by the Government in response were "strictly required by the exigencies of the situation".

Qatada, six Algerians, Palestinian Abu Rideh, and a Tunisian man were given sums of up to £3,400. A Moroccan and a Frenchman, who left the country voluntarily after their arrest, were not awarded any compensation

The judges said when someone is detained on the basis of "an allegedly reasonable suspicion of unlawful behaviour", that person must be given an opportunity effectively to challenge the allegations.

At the time the Government considered there was an urgent need to protect the UK population from terrorist attack and a strong public interest in obtaining information about al-Qaida and its associates, and keeping the sources of such information secret.

But balanced against that, went on the judges, was the detainees' rights to "procedural fairness".

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We have guys in Afghanistan fighting the very people that this guy is radicalising by providing him and others like him with haven from which to preach their message of islamic hatred and the human rights of the citizens are second run second to those of terrorists............:rolleyes:

Oh well............
 
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Friends, you should take note of the following and make sure that you it does not happen where you live. For us, its too late we have had our sovereignty sold down the river by bull**** Human Right's legislation.........




We have guys in Afghanistan fighting the very people that this guy is radicalising by providing him and others like him with haven from which to preach their message of islamic hatred and the human rights of the citizens are second run second to those of terrorists............:rolleyes:

Oh well............

It is you crazy Europeans (;)) trying to enforce this garbage customary international law in the US in regards to provisions of treaties we never signed. Why people here bought into that is beyond me.
 
.......England..:eek:....or as I like to say south of the Haggis Munching Line......a long way south actually right down in the county of Kent.

Cant a bunch of like minded people get together and revolt?

I am serious, things seem so horrible there. Like the crazy people are running the institution and it keeps spreading this way.

Also, is Scotland any better? I dont know much about Scotland.
 
Cant a bunch of like minded people get together and revolt?
...nah we're too far gone for that, this was the Matt Cartoon in the Daily Telegraph on Tuesday this week in response to an article which showed that the UK has virtually become a police state....

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Spy chief: We risk a police state
Dame Stella Rimington, the former head of MI5, has warned that the fear of terrorism is being exploited by the Government to erode civil liberties and risks creating a police state

Daily Telegraph
By Tom Whitehead, Home Affairs Editor
Last Updated: 6:08AM GMT 17 Feb 2009


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...4643415/Spy-chief-We-risk-a-police-state.html

Also, is Scotland any better? I dont know much about Scotland.
.....nah they're as mad a box of frogs.....the Scots couldn't organise a gangbang in a brothel.
 
.....nah they're as mad a box of frogs.....the Scots couldn't organise a gangbang in a brothel.
Scotty,
I literally nearly fell of the chair laughing at this one. :D A shame I didnt, because I could probably sue someone successfully for any injuries that occurred.
 
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...nah we're too far gone for that, this was the Matt Cartoon in the Daily Telegraph on Tuesday this week in response to an article which showed that the UK has virtually become a police state....

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.....nah they're as mad a box of frogs.....the Scots couldn't organise a gangbang in a brothel.

That is so sad, not about the organization skills :) but I mean that it’s so bad there you don’t feel like there is any hope to change it. I hope we never get like that but reality says we are well on our way. I’ll go down fighting though.
 
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