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Is it possible to raise American awareness thru peaceful means.

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Mr.Dysfunctional, Aug 6, 2008.

  1. Mr.Dysfunctional

    Mr.Dysfunctional New Member

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    For those who have seen my previous posts concerning political stand points. Its obvious I'm not as well versused in all the issues as it stands on the national level or even global level concerning American intrests abroad and at home. With that being said it does seem that I am within only a small populus of the American public who cares enough to read deeper into subject and try to understand why it is that we are in the situation we currently find ourselves.

    Thou I love the posts as they are concerning both of the potentional nominees thus far. I have yet found any post that can argue that ethier canadiate is at all good by any strech of the imagination for our country and its obviously bleak future. From everything I have read up to this point it suggests that most of all of it is piss poor voting from a public that ethier no longer cares, more worried about what new reality show is coming out or thinks they have no option but to go with the status quo because their voice is silenced.
    No one else could argue that a more educated public can yield a more educated vote.
    He question comes as this. Baring outright revolt by the apparently low numbers who do seek truth and liberty for all.. What is the best means to awaken a public that seemingly has been dumbed down by media and numbed by constant governmental courption.

    I once heard from a quote that Government is not a protecter but a "Force" and that force is liken to fire.. A dangrous servant or an unyeilding master.

    In all cases we alone cannot rule ourselves or solve the grand scheme of economic , rasical , social or global needs as indivuduals. So I am curious what you all think can be done to raise American awareness of the now catastrophic deiase known as "Apathy" that plagues us all.

    The facts remain simple. If we don't raise our own concoiusness soon,... and by many cases VERY soon.. we all could be in jeopardy of losing the very core that used to represent American values , dreams and hope for liberty and a peaceful tommorow for our children. I for one have a child on the way, and be damned if I allow the elitie to simply wash away their dreams of a future.:mad:

    I'm sure half of this can be tossed in the garbage as ranting.. However I am still curious if out of the spring of intellect I find here .. a viable means to an ends is possible.
     
  2. GenSeneca

    GenSeneca Well-Known Member

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    I've seen that quote somewhere before....
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    Don't worry. BigOil cured our apathy when they dared to lie to Congress, have our soldiers and Iraqui civilians killed to expand their empire and then shafted us doubly at the pumps by daring to raise gas prices above $4 a gallon. In my area it got over $5 a gallon..

    Apathy cures quickly when one loses one's home to foreclosure or when one has to decide between filling the tank and being able to have a much-needed vacation from their underpaid job..if they're lucky enough to even have one..
     
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    Seriously, where do you come up with this stuff? Are you a DU or KOS reader? The rhetoric and hyperbole you use is consistent with both, but I'm just curious.
     
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    Well I'd say my first tip is listening to Congress, who is investigating the current administration for exactly what I just said. That and any brain-dead chimp knows why our military is killing people and inserting (or trying to insert :rolleyes: ) a puppet goverment there to control their expanding oil empire.

    If you even dare to cite "freedom" or "liberty" as the cause for being in Iraq, I will assure you that you are insulting the overwhelming collective mentality of the US Citizenry. E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E knows the military was dispatched their for oil under the guise of "terrorist threats".

    Need I remind you, we know who's running the joint:

    Track records, family traditions and character are all important in distilling what is really going on with an accused situation. This is how prosecutors think, they decide on who did the crime after thorough investigation and background checks, checks for motive...The Bush administration and the Bush family certainly have motive in spades to invade Iraq for oil-control and to lie to the People in order to get the muscle (military at the public coin) to do it. So We The People are the prosecutors in this case and our proxy attorneys are Congress. We The People can investigate, examine motive and come to pre-conclusions in order to prosecute the case and get to the bottom of it.

    Of course the parties are presumed innocent until proven guilty. But a trial is necessary of the foregoing assumed guilt.
     
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    Its all about the Collective. You do realize that making statements like "Everyone knows..." is a logical fallacy right? Nevermind... Conspiracy theories will never go away.
     
  7. pocketfullofshells

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    Honestly if Sept 11 did not wake people up and after 8 years of Bush they still cant wake up, not sure you can wake the majority of people. As a hey we third party member we use to talk about how things needed to get sooo bad for the public to finnaly wake up and need real change ....and vote for a third party. What I found and was only in good times will the public take the risks needed...in bad the politics of fear of the other side win out over what is wanted and needed. Is it a self deffeting spiral? yes, but who knows maybe it can be broken. If Obama can live up to half the hype it would be a start..and lack of expericance can be made up for buy knowing the right people to put in postions to succed. Jesse Vetura here did not have the most experiance ( he was mayor of of a larger city ,) but he put a team of great minds form all sides and did a great job. It was a mini revolution, in a way, but sadly it did not last...bad times make it hard for people to come to us again, scared of the other sides.
     
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    Um, OBL was angry with his relatives for being allies with us. He was disowned by his family as a result and he started Al Quida in response.

    There is a big difference between OBL who believes:

    "Bin Laden believes that the restoration of Sharia law will set things right in the Muslim world, and that all other ideologies—"pan-Arabism, socialism, communism, democracy"—must be opposed.[34] He believes Afghanistan under the rule of Mullah Omar's Taliban was "the only Islamic country" in the Muslim world.[35] Bin Laden has consistently dwelt on the need for jihad to right what he believes are injustices against Muslims perpetrated by the United States and sometimes by other non-Muslim states,[36] the need to eliminate the state of Israel, and the necessity of forcing the US to withdraw from the Middle East. He has also called on Americans to "reject the immoral acts of fornication (and) homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling, and usury," in an October 2002 letter.[37]"

    And the rest of the Saudi royals who have been our allies for 5 decades.

    Didn't someone question where you got your data from? Because alluding to the rest of the Saudi's as in sinc with the terrorist OBL is generally not supported. The further attempt to implicate the President of the United States through shameless spin is close to treason.
     
  9. Libsmasher

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    The dumbness comes from the fact that the liberal establishment has seized control of almost all of the means of enlightening people: ie, the government K-12 schools, the Academy, and the mass media, and transformed these institutions into instruments for propagating their failed ideas, philosophy, and worldview.

    They maintain their control, by such means as powerful government teachers' unions who fight off any attempt to break up their near-monopoly; universities which use classrooms for political indoctrination, the admissions process for racial discrimination, speech codes, lib faculty "advisors" for student newspapers, and the blackballing of conservative faculty hiring to maintain thought control on their campus; and repeated attempts to implement the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" to shut down what little conservative thought gets on the airwaves.

    The antidote is to fight back against liberal-fascist attempts to shut down the free flow of ideas in society, so that people, particularly young people, can participate in a free marketplace of ideas, listen to a fair hearing of all ideas, and the support the best ones.
     
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    only one I know to have taken a real active role with him is his son, but some others are most likey at least funding...but with a family that big it would be hard to not have anyone still helping him after. but yes overall he has attacked his family and they have disowned him for the same reasons.
     
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