Issues with John McCain

GenSeneca;51108]giving advice as to what John McCain should do.

I told him to grow a pair. I'm under no illusion that he will be the leader I WANT.

Yes... between the two candidates you still prefer McSame.

Allow me to post this direct quote of yours as an example of your neutrality.

Unlike yourself, I openly admit my bias... I suppose you think your neutral and objective?

Republicans would do anything you have suggested.

LoL... :) I doin't think there's a person on this planet that doesn't know I'm 100% in favor of Senator Obama being our next President... and I'll go even further. IT IS CRITICAL!

You stated you don't think Obama is Liberal enough on some issues so I'm guessing you have some ideas and opinions as to what he should do.... Does that mean theres a chance in hell that he will do it? So understand that I would be glad to have any of my ideas picked up by politicians from either side of the isle and get off my back.

I would like to see some of the Bush debacle turned around a little quicker but I'm a realist and understand that first you have to win. I have a great comfort level that Senator Obama will be an outstanding President regardless if he and I are @100% agreement.

Your posts do have some merit.

"Some" as in, the stuff you agree with? When it comes to policy, issues and legislation, I am equally tough on both parties because I hold them both to the same high standard. Perhaps your bias prevents you from seeing it, but fiscal responsibility is my number one priority and I don't care which party spearheads the effort as long as we address the problem.

No... "some" as in sometimes you make a decent point and sometimes you are unrealistic and somewhat off the wall.;)

With all due respect anyone who could understand that John McSame would be more "Borrow & Spend"... "Let's Escalate Our Military Occupations" hurting America's economy & credibility even more than Bush/Cheney and still want him to be our next President over Senator Obama IMO is simply out of touch.

Polls back that up. Around 80% of the American people polled over & over again say we are moving in the wrong direction under a Republican administration.

However as wrong as it may be I still believe you are entitled to your opinion. Calm down... it will be OK.


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As per Fed's request:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html


Fed, there is only one number close to 700k bpd:

U.S. Petroleum Product Imports from OPEC: 733,000 barrels/day

Fed asked me to go back over my numbers and I'm glad he did:
We are at 66% dependence on foreign oil, not 75% as I had mistakenly reported.

U.S. Crude Oil Production: 5,102,000 barrels/day

U.S. Crude Oil Imports: 10,118,000 barrels/day

Please note the correction.
 
As per Fed's request:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html


Fed, there is only one number close to 700k bpd:

U.S. Petroleum Product Imports from OPEC: 733,000 barrels/day

Fed asked me to go back over my numbers and I'm glad he did:
We are at 66% dependence on foreign oil, not 75% as I had mistakenly reported.

U.S. Crude Oil Production: 5,102,000 barrels/day

U.S. Crude Oil Imports: 10,118,000 barrels/day

Please note the correction.


Thanks Gen.

I see that they ARE referring to Crude Oil and Unfinished Oil as two separate things now (nothing like changing all the questions right when you think you know all the answers :(). Another thing that I find somewhat confusing is this, if we're IMPORTING 10.1 MILLION barrels a day, exactly why are we EXPORTING 1.4 MILLION barrels a day?
 
Thanks Gen.

I see that they ARE referring to Crude Oil and Unfinished Oil as two separate things now (nothing like changing all the questions right when you think you know all the answers :(). Another thing that I find somewhat confusing is this, if we're IMPORTING 10.1 MILLION barrels a day, exactly why are we EXPORTING 1.4 MILLION barrels a day?

You're not getting the whole story with that number... We export oil to countries like Japan who Refine it for us and then we import the finished products... Something like 4% of our gasoline is refined outside the states and we have it shipped back here. Thats what happens when Greenies don't let you build new refineries.
 
You're not getting the whole story with that number... We export oil to countries like Japan who Refine it for us and then we import the finished products... Something like 4% of our gasoline is refined outside the states and we have it shipped back here. Thats what happens when Greenies don't let you build new refineries.

I was aware that we were importing gasoline, but I did not know that we were sending them the oil to refine it from!:eek: No wonder fuel prices are so high, we're paying to ship it both ways.

As I said in an earlier post, we have got to start building refineries, yesterday.
 
The point you fail to concede is that the REPUBLICANS are not going to do anything you say they will. George Bush ran on the exact same type rhetoric you post now as what the REPUBLICANS will do.

Leave it to Top Gun to miss the entire point of the post which was to bash McCain. Masterful grasp of what should have been obvious.

Yes, Repugs do many times say one thing and do another. Nevertheless, the options are, have some idiot that will do the exact opposite, or have someone claims he'll do what we want... the choice is also obvious.

Also, Obama supporters constantly show their inability to think or grasp simple concepts. I don't want to be counted among them.

The simple and super obvious fact is if one only takes a second and looks at the spending numbers and size of government THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOW 100% THE PARTY OF BORROW AND SPEND!!!

I already addressed this in the thread on "Can Democraps complain about overspending?" in which I pointed out one of the many bills passed by democraps, that violated their own PAYGO rules, and would generate billions in deficits. You have no credibility. Either start showing us how to be fiscally responsible with your actions, or just shut up.

Some used to say the Dems were tax and spend... with their senior citizens programs Social Security & Medicare along with other American social programs here at home helping Americans.

Social Security will be running a deficit by 2018, and bankrupt by 2041 at the latest. A tax and spend boondoggle in the making for years.

Medicare is still going broke, is subject to cuts, and is causing doctors to leave the practice. Medicare, like all socialized programs is a nightmare, and it will get worse. Especially if we nationalize a failing system. Another brilliant idea by libidiots to find a failing horrible system, and nationalize so everyone must use the horrible failing system.

But now Republicans have taken to ballooning the deficit borrowing money from places like Communist China which is MUCH MUCH WORSE so they can run around the world playing Cowboy on any old lie just to try and control more oil producing countries & play Nation Builder.

We already covered this in the thread on "Rockefeller (D) on Bush's lie", in which the Rockefeller report was discussed the openly stated that all the "lies" were substantiated by intelligence information. In other words, even the democraps on Crapital Hill admit it wasn't a lie. When will you?

Add to that the Republican's LOVE OF CORPORATE WELFARE and THEIR LOVE OF DEREGULATION AS IN THE HOME LOAN CRISIS (see McCain adviser Phil Graham) and you can see the economic fix the Republicans have put our country into.

First, we don't have a home loan crisis. There are thousands of traditional mortgages going through every week. The problem is the sub-prime loans... which are whose fault again? Is it governments fault you bought a home you couldn't possibly afford and got foreclosed on? I don't think so. People borrowed themselves into oblivion and you can't blame government for that.

Second, Democrats support corporate welfare constantly.

Third, after 8 years of a democrap, we were in a full blow recession. After 8 years of a repug, our economy is increasing to 0.9% growth, from a slow down of 0.6% growth. This opposed to the recession in 1999 and 2000 that was negative growth for more than 2 consecutive quarters. So 6 months of negative growth is a good thing to repeat, while a brief slow down that has always been positive growth is bad?

No more false bait and switch promises from the Radical Right. We need to try something really new this time. It's either that or we get 4 more years of steady Bush type war & economic decline with just another Bush surrogate in John McCain.
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Right, no more false bait... instead let's choose someone we know will screw up the nation, instead of someone who might. Yeah incredibly new like the last time, and the time before, and the time before that.

New like... socialism that worked so well for those happy cubans, that they made small rafts to float here and even die trying to get their children here, just to tell us how great it is over there. So great in fact, our caring government had storm troopers go and lovingly escort children back to Cuba to enjoy the life they didn't want to leave!

I'll vote for the Bush type. Actually I'd rather vote for a real conservative, but given the options, McCain is at least a 100 times better. ... and I just can not possibly do anything that would associate myself with Obama supporters. I actually think.
 
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You're not getting the whole story with that number... We export oil to countries like Japan who Refine it for us and then we import the finished products... Something like 4% of our gasoline is refined outside the states and we have it shipped back here. Thats what happens when Greenies don't let you build new refineries.

It's true, but... well. There is more to it. We are not actually doing that yet, as far as I know. US Gov has sent officials to Japan to discuss the possibility of having their spare refinery capacity used. That was May, it's unclear if we are doing that now. I have found nothing on if that is occurring.

That said, oil exports happen all the time. Oil is sold on a global market. A commodities market, where commodities traders, buy and sell oil on a global market.

There is no such thing as a country that only exports, or only imports oil, unless it's under government control. Because if it isn't, then a private company might be able to get a cheaper bid, even if they are in Saudi Arabia, buying from Egypt. Everything is bought and sold on the Commodities market. If a company in Canada places a higher bid for a shipment of oil, then that US company will ship it north. That is what a global commodity is about.

That said, there is an issue with refineries. We don't drill for enough oil, yes. So we must import oil. But, even despite our stagnate refining capacity, other countries are much worse off. Mexico, with a socialized government run oil industry, can't fund the building of refineries. We buy oil from them, and they buy refined diesel and other oil products from us routinely. Canada, also having a eco-nut contingent, also lacks refining capacity, and thus they buy refined oil products from us too.

My personal favorite, Brazil being cited as an Ethanol success story, is one of the largest importers of diesel. It wasn't even 3 years ago, they were claiming Brazil was eliminating energy imports, now they are one of the top 5 importers of US refined oil.

Lastly, and this struck me as insane, but not all of our refineries... are ours. Venezuela actually owns 3 refineries sitting along the gulf of mexico. Guess where that gas goes?

Point being, we are hitting a shortage of refining capacity. It's not all for us though. We're selling fuel everywhere, and because of that demand, it's driving us to shortages here. We do need more refineries.
 
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