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It is clear that no one wants to discuss the "issues"

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by BigRob, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. BigRob

    BigRob Well-Known Member

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    How often do we hear on this forum that it should be the "issues" that are discussed. It is pretty clear that most people could care less about actual issues.

    Just take a look at the topic titles that continue to pop up:

    1) Barack saddam hussein obama is really Barry Soetoro
    2) McCain's brother leaves campaign after calling 9/11 to complain about traffic
    3) The aftermath of the "B Girl" hoax
    4) What's Jeremiah Wright's Problem?
    5) Republicans; Trying To Avoid Another "Palin"??
    6) Must Read - Was Barack Obama Planted?


    While there are certainly some threads that do attempt to discuss the issues they are quickly turned into name calling that is not even relevant to any issue, or they are simply ignored.

    Why is the foreign policy of each candidate not being evaluated before the election?

    Why are the candidates plan on the economy not being discussed outside of back and forth "it was your fault", "no it was not"?

    Why do threads that actually attempt to address healthcare solutions get ignored or turned into threads of bickering?

    Why are national debt threads ignored, or turned into a Bush blame game?

    Why are the candidates tax plans unable to be discussed outside the realm of "BigOil" and "Socialism"?


    Certainly we do not all have to agree, but right now it often seems the only thing people are interested in is blaming all the problems of the world on the other party. Threads are created to address actual solutions are either quickly ignored or quickly turned into more of the same.

    Quite frankly, it is pathetic.
     
  2. Pandora

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    I am not sure what is left to say about tax plans or F. Policy. For what little information both candidates have given its been about talked out by the people who really want to talk about it, unless you can think of something new that has not been touched on.

    If the canddiates would explain further about what they plan to do we could talk more about the new information, but neither of them have given a ton of info and what they gave leaves more questions than answers like where is the money coming from. Then its a guessing game and name calling exc.

    Obama has been running since Jan or Feb of 2007 and McCain almost as long. The sad thing is we dont know very much about how either of them plan to pay for the stuff they say they want. So how much can you really talk about.

    but you are right there is a ton of petty things being talked about. Can you think of something new to talk about on thier tax plan or F policy plan that has not already been talked about? If you can that is great, Id be happy to read it.
     
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    If it is on issues then Obama will win with a landslide.

    Even republicans should want big change. Which I suppose is why so many senior ones are defecting to Obama.
     
  4. Pandora

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    change to what?

    I keep hearing how obama will bring change but no one says what change and how it will happen, including Obama himself

    change hope believe progress

    but what will this change look like? no one has ever said

    I dont want mindless empty words
     
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    The drive-by lib media and the leftist slander blogs have dragged the level of political discourse down to an unprecedented low. Popeye's posts are largely a recycling of their garbage. Even the New York Times, liberal forever but maintaining some standards, dragged itself down into the leftwing sewer with an article last week attacking Cindy McCain personally.

    What's happening, imo, is the whole liberal/left establishment sees a once in a hundred years opportunity to elect a leftwing extremist president, and they aren't going to lose it for any reason - certainly not something like supporting journalistic integrity.
     
  6. primerib

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    BigRob looking at your avatar I'm guessing you're a vet like me. One of the topics listed in your thread I started, Was Barack Obama Planted? Read it. How could anyone even care about Nobama's policies and initiatives when he has so many character and background issues. Who is this guy? When I ask supporters why they are voting for him, most don't have an answer. It's like they were brain washed. The military completed a poll last week and the number one issue or question was Nobama's character. This is an abnormal election because it looks like we are about to elect someone we know nothing about and has all this stuff in his background. I'm sorry as a vet and a patriot, Nobama if elected will never be my president and millions of people like me will be counting the days of his failed presidency.
     
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    I am sure that most people who vote for Obama have a very good idea of what he stands for.

    It seems you have very little faith in the ability of US citizens to think, act and vote responsibly.

    Is this the case ?

    Comrade Stalin of Gori
     
  8. BigRob

    BigRob Well-Known Member

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    I agree that his policies are terrible, perhaps I jumped the gun by adding that post to the list, it just seems to me that many of the same people who are demanding to "talk issues" do not even know what the "issues" really are. Or in the case that they do, they are unable to back them up when legitimate criticisms are offered.
     
  9. The Scotsman

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    ...........you would hope that anyone voting for either candidate would have some idea of what they stood for but judging by some of the issues that get discussed in the media and this forum, well....there is a huge amount of rectal discharge that gets in the way of reality.
     
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    ........agreed!
     
  11. primerib

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    I agree it should be about the issues that matter to Americans but unfortunately it's not. I turned to several forums like this one, which is a good one, to see what people are thinking. What I'm finding is topics or distractions that have nothing to do with the issues and a bunch of loons with one liners taking pot shots at each other. It is hard to believe that a majority of Americans are voting for an unknown candidate, who never served his country, with all the strange things going on in his background. I'm not republican, I was a registered democrat and now an independent voting republican. If you served your country you would know how important it is have a veteran as president, someone who has been tested and has the experience and wisdom to lead. After I post this there will be zingers from the liberals on this forum like every other forum that never served their country. You can't have an intellectual debate of agrument about anything. Unfortunately it looks like Nobama may win and half of America like me will be counting the days till he is out of office.
     
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    For me, it's all come down to one very salient issue, Obama is a died in the wool Socialist/Communist who has already promised to violate his Oath of Office before he even has an opportunity to take that Oath.

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    Mr. Carpenter, please back up these ridiculous claims with some proof.
     
  14. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    EVERYTHING has political-implications!!!!

    If you're not mature-enough (i.e. have inadequate points-of-reference), to recognize that, you're the last person who should be moderating much of anything.
     
  15. Mr. Shaman

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    Tooooooooooooooooooooooooo easy.

    See: The Clinton Years
     
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