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Learning and Speaking English Language

Discussion in 'Education Policies' started by Iftikhar, Aug 6, 2016.

  1. Iftikhar

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    Learning and Speaking English Language

    I'm not sure how learning English will help stop extremism either, many of those who have carried out/plotted atrocities have been highly educated. Speaking English does not promote integration into British, American and Australian societies, and broaden opportunities. English speaking Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist, thanks to state schools with monolingual non-Muslim teachers and English language. English language is not only a lingua franca but also lingua frankensteinia. Human right are also covers linguistic right. Cultural and linguistic genocide are very common. British schooling is murdering community languages like Arabic, Urdu and others. English is today the world killer language. Linguistic genocide is a crime against humanity and British schooling is guilty of committing this crime. Language is not just a language. It defines one's culture, identity and consciousness. It defines how we think, communicate and express ourselves. The fact is the most South Asian Muslims have come to know Islam by way of Urdu, the children's alienation from the language that connects them the heritage of their parents and grandparents is disturbing. As a matter of fact, one has to get to know his mother tongue well if one is to master any other language.

    The Prime Minister has privately argued that one of the main reasons why young Muslim males fall under the spell of fanatics is because their mothers have too much of a subordinate role within their communities to argue against the influence of the extremists.Just another narrow minded attempt to deionise Muslims, by yet another link to terrorism. This has nothing to do with extremism and David Cameron an idiot for trying to link the two. What an idiot....Muslim women should learn English, I think he means immigrants need to learn English. Cameron's an idiot, most Muslim women were born here and educated here.

    Cameron has NO interest in integrating people, whatever their creed or race. The Tories are ALL about division, the rich go one way and get all the benefits and the poor get 'stuffed'. Been like that for over a hundred years They are supported by their non-Dom friends in the media. We have the farce of Labour being branded 'fiscally incompetent' and yet George Osborne's financial Miracle has doubled the National debt. You won't hear that in the media. The recession was caused by banking crisis and largely the government's and bankers fault, and instead of holding them accountable, people turned around and blamed immigrants. Even in the last election people kept banging on about how immigrants are stealing benefits, yet people failed to recognise that the credit crunch and its horrible aftermath wasn't caused by immigrants....and all political parties enforced the anti-immigrant sentiment. Typical divide and conquer tactics.

    He is expected to call for more Muslim women to learn the language so they can make advances in the job market and take on a more influential role.
    Prime Minister David Cameron will call on Muslim women to learn English to counter extremism. Living in UK, obviously one needs to know English. However David the Pig abuser should know better, Knowing English does NOT prevent TERRORISM. HATE breeds HATE. TERROR breeds TERRORISM.

    Mr Cameron has been shocked by the fact that at least 700 people from the UK – the vast majority of them young males – have travelled to support or fight for jihadist groups in Syria and Iraq, with about half having since returned to Britain. Most who have gone are thought to have joined Islamic State. They are the product of British schooling and well versed in English language nd not in their mother tongues and Arabic.

    He has argued with advisers that he needs to ‘lift the horizons’ of women in those areas where the language barrier contributes to them being trapped outside the workforce. Male Muslims are the most integrated people going they do far more than anybody when it comes to charity and live side by side and work with every different background unlike David Cameron who lives in a very segregated area like the vast majority of Zionist do.

    Why do we have a pop at Mr Trump when David Cameron seems quite happy to discriminate against Muslims himself with this idea of deporting Muslims' who haven't learned English within a certain time period; (bearing in mind that English is supposed to be one of the hardest languages to learn). You can't say that David Cameron's policy idea is exactly 'Muslim friendly'. And why doesn't he deport the Polish, the Czech, and not forgetting the Chinese students in this country's universities? When I was studying at university, I found that Chinese students', who had supposedly learned English before they could study in Britain, couldn't actually speak the language at all. I think there is a bit of money passing around to get these students in. The fact that they also pay large sums of money in tuition fees annually may be the reason the government leaves them alone. Strange that. Hey, we could just deport everyone who can't speak fluid English. David Cameron would have loads of space then and it'd keep the economic cost down .

    If David Cameron's idea becomes law, the only thing that this will do, is discriminate against Muslims by forcing people who are living within a very close knit community and splitting them up. Single mothers, who have fled tensions in their own country for a safer life in Britain with their children. How can we slag off Donald Trump for his comments when our government is thinking of doing the same?

    The Muslim Council of Britain has objected to what it describes as an attempt to place responsibility for extremism entirely on Britain’s Muslim population, arguing that they are also ‘struggling to challenge the terrorist narrative’. Beat fanatics by teaching them English? The national language here in Israel is Hebrew. Terrorists and their terrorist harbouring families here know Hebrew - children terrorists know Hebrew. The man is an idiot. He cannot seriously believe the guff written above. If they learn English and go out and get a job, they will stop young Muslims being radicalised. The man is an incompetent feminised man, who measures everything by women taking men's jobs. Does he understand nothing at all. The UK was targeted for many years by IRA Terrorists , and THEY all spoke English , So Cameron , what is your point???????????
     
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    Cameron isn't the Prime Minister any more. Is the above poster copying pasting old articles or not aware of the news in the past month?

    If you were in the real world (as in out seeing people on the streets) you will notice that many refugees and asylum seekers refuse to learn English even if they are given free lessons. That doesn't help because they are choosing to be ignorant. If you move to a country or even visit one on holiday, learning a language or phrases to get by is the right thing to do and respectful.

    I know from my own encounters when I have asked someone to move out of the way so I can get past, they look at me blankly with 4-5 children and the child then tells the mother what I said, which was a simple excuse me, which also was obvious. If they can''t be bothered to learn simple things like that, then what hope have they of integrating in society. Many don't and which is why terrorism has occurred at home because people are creating their own communities.
     
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    In the countries mentioned, English us the language in use for all business and commerce. You need to be fluent to do mist everything.
    If you wish to exist in these countries you need to be able to communicate.
     
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    Muslim children must learn and be well versed in standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time they must learn and be well versed in Arabic, Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. The whole world belongs to him.
     
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    They can learn whatever they want but don't expect the state to pay for it.
    The whole world does not belong to him and this shows you seek to overthrow sovereign countries in pursuit of your dogma. Not going to happen.
     
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