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Legalize It!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Mr. Shaman, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. Mr. Shaman

    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Apparently, when "conservatives" talk about Allowing The Marketplace To Regulate Itself, they're referring-to large-scale, financial rip-offs.
     
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    Andy Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't surprise me too much if you were a pot head, given the often nebulous, and disjointed responses you often make, with sources that don't even relate to the topic.
     
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    Mr. Shaman New Member

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    Yeah, Skippy...sure, Skippy....

    Don't you have homework, to do, or something?

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Andy Well-Known Member

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    I rest my case.
     
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    Actually, most people growers/smokers and opponents to marijuana alike are on the same side: keeping it illegal/illegitimate.

    The growers are seeing a flooding of the market driving prices into the basement. People opposed on moralistic grounds just naturally hate it.

    Smoking pot should be one of those things kept "abnormal", like gay sex. It will always exist and people should be treated with understanding and firm compassion who engage in it, but for reasons of social-learning we should never uphold aberrant behaviors as "normal"...ever...

    Inhaling smoke into one's lungs is NOT NORMAL. You can call it what you like, but normal isn't something that applies to it.

    It does have proven medicinal value. Therefore it should be made availible like all other prescription drugs with the FDA having total say in its manufacture and distribution. I've known people who have grown it and applied deadly pesticides to keep it looking nice "for street value" and sold it to unsuspecting ailing patients. I can only wonder how much more quickly they may have died from the toxic chemicals they were inhaling. When huge cash is involved, morality and oversight go in the trash can. There needs to be oversight. The situation is out of control.
     
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    I'm not sure what the moral ground is against marijuana.

    Pragmatically, my case against it has to do with the long-term effects I've seen on people I've known. People who lost their jobs, their wives, their children, their entire lives, all because they were stuck on weed.

    Most of the people I've met, who were heavily hitting the flower power, were often the most useless pathetic people. Some have told me it's great because people high on pot, are funny and humorous. Not from what I've seen. That kind of funny, is no more entertaining than kindergartners exchanging potty jokes, or tripping a drunk guy causing him to fall, or that guy in California who made homeless bums fight over $10 bucks.

    It's not funny, it's sick and pathetic. And the wife who longs for a her husband to come out of his drug induced stupor, and lead her family, or the child who can't figure out why daddy never plays with them, neither finds it very amusing either.

    This is what I'm against. Having met enough people in loveless marriages, because one or both, was hooked on some substance, I can say I don't want to meet anymore. And if legalizing it will increase those numbers, then I'm against it.
     
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    Geeeeee.....more o' those Skippy/BigRob-style Absolutes....based on zip!!

    What.....you consider these allegations facts, merely because your mouth was moving, and they came out.

    You should try gettin' a job with Annie "Bones" Coulter! Hell, she (actually) gets paid for makin'-up-crap!!​
     
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    B.S.!!!!!!!!!!!

    It's fantasy-time, in Skippyland.....again!

    :rolleyes:
     
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    What did I "make up" and never offer evidence for?
     
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    Sadly I've seen this too. And yet the evil weed does have real abilities to heal. It is a drug therefore. Any prescription drug can be abused too and I've watched one woman waste away on vicadin...worse than any I've seen on pot.

    Being a drug with good uses, it's domain should properly fall under the FDA. My father would be blind by now without using a derivitive of it. So I see both sides of the issue. The street stuff is a crap shoot though. There are no regulations, no testing of the substance so the consumers may be smoking anything from the pure stuff to stuff laced with DDT and anything possible inbetween. Uncle Sam needs to step in.
     
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    .........why bother? I thought that was the fun of marijuana its "behind closed doors mystique" as it were, gives the middle classes that tingle of being a bit naughty without being to energetic!
     
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    It won't be legalized because it's too hard to control...it's easy to grow in ones own garden so you won't be seeing tax revenues on it. I personally would rather be around someone on pot than someone who drinks or does pills, and there's no detox issues with it, the only addiction issue is psychological, not physical. The leads to blah blah is crap, I know several people in their mid 40's who still smoke & have no desire for other drugs.
     
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    ..........yeah, that echos my thoughts as well.
     
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    Yeah.....like alcohol.

    :rolleyes:

     
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    It should be legalized, but controlled via FDA and legitimate prescriptions. If I had a dime for all the people I know with their little cards who have nothing more wrong with them than a hangnail or the desire to sit on their butts all day, I wouldn't need to work another day myself..

    The drug has good uses. But it is a drug. And like all other drugs it should be an FDA matter for oversight. Maybe someday it will be availible like liquor in a special store? But still, the growing conditions must be monitored and have some federal standards for public safety.
     
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