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McCain Snubs Palin

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    While there have been plenty of things thread worthy to report in regards to Governor Palin lately, but I thought this snub by McCain on the Leno show was interesting. I generally dont watch the show, but because McCain was on I tuned in. When he showers praise on 5 other GOP Governors, and acknowledges leaving Palin out of that list.

    OK, I just tried to imbed the video from this source. But I couldnt manage it, I got nothing but probably 500 characters of code. So if someone who knows how can imbed the video onto this site for easier viewing I would appreciate it.
    It is under the heading McCain: I want Obama to succeed.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/video/
     
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    ypfrrymut?

    Even without being able to decipher the post, from your previous ones it seems like Sarah isn't too popular anymore in Alaska. I guess anyone has a 50/50 chance of blowing it when thrust onto the national scene. Looks like she did. Unfortunately I always thought she was the Republican "token", and in no way was ready for that spotlight. If she had been ugly, she never would have been in it.

    If she isn't doing right by Alaska, at least you have a lot of ammo if she tries to run again.
     
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    I found the "Professor Obama Defends TARP" link and the ever so important "Media Chaos as the First Puppy Arrives" link but I did not find the "Bitter RINO republican snubs his ex running mate" link.
     
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    Sarah was out for all she could to milk her VP spot for hero for personal profit for herself, not to help the Republican ticket. So McCain has good reason to resent her. He made a bad choice, and it cost him, in the end, even if in the short run it gave him a little gain.
     
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    Are you kidding?? The only time anyone had any real interest in the Republican ticket, (other than to not have Obama win) was when Palin got on the ticket. NO ONE really wanted McCain. McCain is a democrat! Why would we be excited about our democrat winning over theirs?

    In fact, since the election, I've actually heard people remark that they are relieved it isn't McCain in office because we'd have to hear all the dumb democrat things he'd be doing for the next 4 years.

    Palin was the only halfway decent republican on the ticket.

    As for McCain snubbing Palin... well duh... he's a democrat. When a democrat loses, they always blame someone. Since Palin was the only Republican on the ticket, and ideology opposed to McCain, then she's the logical one to blame.
     
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    Fox has played it 5 times so I saw it there. I think he got mad at people like me who sent him money after he put her on the ticket.... and under reason we put SARAH PALIN

    He wanted so badly to be important and liked but it just didnt take, republicans and conservatives just did not like him or want him.

    I understand his resentment to her. I get yours too. I think its unfair but its at least funny in a clip like this rather than the dozens of clips attacking her or attacking her kids or attacking the boyfriends of her kids or attacking the boyfriends parents of her kids.

    This one is silly and harmless and a good laugh


    You know, I think one of the best endorsements Palin can get is that she was snubbed by the RINO.



    I heard about this new website today, I have not had a chance to check it out yet but
    It shows how Obama got elected and how Sarah Palin was a target

    http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
     
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    I have been a past supporter of Palin, while I didnt vote for her in 2006, I thought she was doing alright overall, mostly because was fairly centrist.
    Where she lost me was during the entire troopergate scandal, and then she disappointed me even greater when she clearly broke the law by advocating against a ballot measure, when in fact she is to remain neutral.
    http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=8885438
    Then her behavior on the campaign trail was simply embarrassing, and now that she has come back to AK, and returned to being the Governor, she has lost a lot of Alaskans support who previously supported her, because of overt 2012 ambitions when there is business to be done under her current position.
    A perfect example, would be that the State Legislature is in its final week of the session, and she has left the state for her own personal agenda.
    There has been plenty of other examples, but the Sarah Palin now, is not the same Sarah has we had a year ago.
    It will be interesting to see what the next election brings. I have the feeling it will be very ugly. Probably the nastiest in state history. Her approval rating is still above %50, but she has lost over 30 points in the last 6 months.
     
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    Andy, if McCain is a democrat, or at best a RINO, then why did he win the GOP primary? I mean it wasnt even close. The GOP primaries are generally closed elections, so there isnt the "operation chaos" factor here. I just dont see how you can justify your statements about McCain.

    As for Palin, what exactly makes you think she is more conservative than McCain? In practice, she is at best a centrist. She is largely disliked by actual conservatives because, she is in fact not a conservative. She has shown in her actual agenda items and accomplishments to be not very conservative at all. Maybe on some social issues, like gun issues, but otherwise when it comes to economic matters, her major accomplishments(ACES, AGIA, and Energy Rebate, have been nothing short of liberal socialism.
     
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    Do you really think that? I mean her showed support for her since then. I am just wondering what has caused the change?
    I disagree, it is clear he is important and fairly well liked. I still have a great amount of respect for the man, but I find it odd how quick the so called Republicans disrespect him, when they are the ones who gave him the primary victory running away.
    Firstly, I am not sure you understand why exactly I have come to no longer support her. I think you need to have her as Governor to fully understand. But I think you need to understand why Bristol has come into play, and so has Levi, like I said I could make all sorts of threads attacking the Palins for all sorts of things, but it generally is beneath that. Kinda like how Todd Palin's sister was arrested for burglary the other day, among plenty of other various politically related missteps Palin herself has made. But the Palin family in large part has become a situation of utter hypocrisy and I have plenty of evidence to back that up.
    Oh yes, Sarah Palin was a target, but its not like she didnt make it very easy to be in that situation. With some of her very embarrassing performances, it is a no brainer. I remember watching the coverage when the guy that was making the movie concerning the link you provided. One thing the right cant seem to let sink in, is that the number one person responsible for the election of Obama was Bush. The average person was so disenfranchised with the GOP executive leadership after 8 years of Bush that Americans were going to vote Democrat short of Bart Simpson gaining the nomination.
    The problem with the average GOP candidate is that they whine and complain that it is the media that cost them the election, or any number of other factors they determine to be out of thier own control, when in fact it is the policies and personalities of the candidates themselves. Blaming others for your own loss is shallow and shows a lack of leadership and skill at the game. Kinda like every loss is sports being chalked up to the referees. Its a dumb argument.
     
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    As soon as the election was over she was attacked for clothes. McCain authorized them but it took him almost 2 weeks to say anything about it and even that was half heartedly.

    Anything he has said positive about her has been “straining” for him to say. When he first picked her I argued that he did not do this because she was a woman. I really believed that he picked her because she was more like the people and not a stuffy insider politician. I think I was very wrong, I have come to believe he only picked her for the Hillary factor, thinking that would help him and held his nose over political stance.

    Fairly well liked by whom? It was cross over voting in the primary that got him the nomination, that and that stupid mike huckabee who refused to get out of the race, sucking the a small number of conservative votes away from Romney, small but it was enough to keep Romney from over taking McCain. The dems are the only ones who really liked McCain that is till he got the nomination then he was some kind of poison, now the freaks on the dem side like him again.

    You do make all sorts of threads about Palin kids; Palin kids boyfriends, Palin kid’s boyfriend’s mother. But of course it’s terrible and wrong to talk about Obama’s sex offender brother, or the drug addicted brother or the brother in the hut or the aunt who is here illegally, or the sitting vice presidents daughter who is a cocaine user. To speak of that is just sour grapes, but any chance to talk about Palin’s mother’s uncles cousins next door neighbor is always a good thread. It’s really laughable.

    You don’t even realize what a hypocrite you are. Do you remember the thread posted by some leftie that was titled Palin white trash? It had more to the title that was rude but I don’t remember it all. You not only let that thread stay up YOU POSTED ON IT. Some conservatives in the forum made a running bet on what you would do if a thread was out there about obama that said anything like that. So one conservative made a dupe thread, copied and pasted word for word what the thread you let stay up for 2 weeks said, only changing skin color and name. That same night you closed the thread with Obama’s name and so we started posting back on the Palin thread about what a hypocrite you were to let hers stay and actually post on it but close his the second you saw it. You ended up removing both threads. I think you should have let the Palin thread stay for a reminder of hypocrisy. But you can believe you are being fair if you want to, just don’t expect others to believe you.



    Anyone who dared to disagree with obama made themselves a target and still do. The left has always justified it and always will.








    Yes you are so right, everyone should have understood that the difference in the way the media covered the two camps were fair and reasonable.

    When obama misspeaks he is tired and when McCain misspoke he was old.

    Or when Sarah wore and outfit it was a bad thing and mrs obama changing clothes on a plane it is an hour long news cycle on great fashion

    Or Palin’s glasses were expensive and that was bad but mrs obama’s been able to tone up her arms and that’s so wonderful and worth an hour of reporting on.

    Or that mrs obama used a seat for reporters to bring her make up artist to Europe and that was so wonderful


    Obamas steely abs is news worthy because the media is mentally masturbating over his every step

    The evil Bush spent 46 million dollars for an inauguration during war and this is bad. Obama spends almost 200 million for his during war and the greatest economy crisis since the great depression and it was memorable….

    But yes the real reasons for this type of reporting is that republicans are shallow and lack leadership.

    You really are so funny!
     
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    I couldnt give two winks about the clothes she had.
    I would say he pretty much fawns over her here.

    Well firstly Romney got out of the race before Huckabee did, and Huckabee did his best to take on McCain. But your notion that it was some sort of "operation chaos" by the Democrats assured a McCain victory is simply comical. Firstly, many of the GOP primaries were closed primaries, where non party members werent allowed to participate. And in other cases, most democrats were far more interested in participating in the democrat primaries than having anything to do with the GOP. If youll remember correctly, it was the GOP who did thier best to interupt the Dems in thier process.

    Cry me a river. I could fill these boards with Palin family gossip. I generally dont because it has little to do with policy. The issues I take with the family are based mostly on proving the hypocrisy of the policies Sarah wants to pursue when her own daughter says it is unrealistic(abstinance).
    Yeah, because the same didnt happen under Bush? Yeah right. If you didnt support actions in Iraq, you werent a patriot and were against the troops. Im not buying it. 6 years ago Democrats complained about various things, and were painted as all sorts of negative things by the right. Now it is the GOPs turn to complain, they claim they are patriots, and still have some sort of deluded idea that they are the real Americans and everyone else is somehow not a true American or otherwise inferior or against America, when it is far from the truth.
    Once again, a rightie cant see thier own faults and continue to blame everyone else they can for thier losses.
    Its the media!
    Its the crossover vote!
    Its the RINOs!
    You can point fingers all you like, but the fact of the matter is that the reasons the GOP is out of favor in this country comes from the actions of the GOP.
    I am glad you find me funny and entertaining, but that doesnt change the facts that the GOP has done more harm to itself than anyone else can muster.
     
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    I did not say you personally cared about her clothes, I said McCain who authorized them did not speak up for her for almost two weeks and even then it was half heartedly defending her.


    What a joke. Romney bowed out very early having more electoral votes than Huckabee got staying in the race to the very end. Huckabee knew there was no way in hell that he could ever even come close to what Romney had the day Romney bowed out. Huckabee stayed in to keep Romney out.

    It’s not my notion it was reported on during the primaries. Independents went for McCain and moderate republicans and the conservative vote was split between Romney and huckabee. Only one could win with the conservative vote, being split would not let either of them win.

    You have filled the boards and her family gossip generally has NOTHING to do with it. You also have shown extreme special treatment for obama and against her as a mod on the boards.

    Yeah parents should change family policy if their kids say its unrealistic to follow the rules. Yeah!!

    First because anything happened under Bush that you did not agree with, now you think its ok?

    Buy it or not buy it, you did not know me 6 years ago or know what I agreed with or not. I am still indifferent about the war and rarely post about it because my feelings are very mixed. I will say that it’s wrong to say things like “our troops are killing women and children in the dark of night” like John Freaking Kerry (who served in Vietnam) did. Or “we have to do more than just carpet bomb villages” like obama said. But I have never said its wrong to protest the war or speak against the war when you don’t agree and it did not make you any less an American. I am against saying cruel and misleading things about our troops like the two quotes from above. If I agreed with your logic that because Dems did it under Bush I can do it too, I would say its pretty sad that obama authorized the killing of three African Muslim teenagers instead of calling them pirates. That is exactly how it would have been spun with Bush



    Yep all those factors are correct and the fact that McCain was a liberal republican (RINO) that no one wanted but the independents and moderate to liberal republicans who voted for him in the primary then ended up voting for obama in the general.
     
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