Media Bias

Maybe we have a serious problem with definitions.

And there in lies the problem. What is liberal? What is conservative? Ask 10 people and you'll get 10 different answers. It all depends on your point of view. The world and the issues can't be broken down into just black and white, liberal or conservative. Reality is in full vibrant colour.
 
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What is a liberal source? And here is someone who picks apart the methodology of Tim Groseclose's study.
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004006.php

Since most print media relies on wire services for news, I'd like to hear how AP could be considered liberal. It is not.

What I find interesting is how I abandoned watching the televised news, listening to NPR and reading newspaper reporting about ten years ago because of the obvious right wing (notice how I didn't say conservative because I do not see the neocon philosophy as the same) slant. On the rare occasion I must encounter those sources, I can only stomach them for about 15 minutes before I have to turn them off again for a lengthy period.

Maybe we have a serious problem with definitions.

The best example of a liberal source I can think of would be the ACLU. Unlike the writer in the link you posted, I have enough common sense to realize that. Do you even realize that you posted an extremely leftist link to try and argue against a liberal bias in the media? If you think NPR, all newspapers, and all televised news has a right-wing slant, then I'd hate to see what you think is unbiased.
 
You really do think you're the dogs bollocks don't you.
No. I am really shocked that this thread was NEVER debated on when it was first posted. DID YOU SEE THE POST DATE? God, you must be a leftist. Turn a mole hill into a mountain. Give it a rest. :eek:

-Castle
 
The best example of a liberal source I can think of would be the ACLU. Unlike the writer in the link you posted, I have enough common sense to realize that. Do you even realize that you posted an extremely leftist link to try and argue against a liberal bias in the media? If you think NPR, all newspapers, and all televised news has a right-wing slant, then I'd hate to see what you think is unbiased.
Bravo Zulu! My thoughts exactly!

-Castle
 
I generally associate that with the right wing.

You know the only purpose of the ACLU is to interpret and try to enforce the Constitution (for free). Any group that their whole purpose is to enforce the United States Constitution "pro bono" must be some Leftist Commie group................ wait, that makes no sense??? :D

molehill... molehill! :)
 
I generally associate that with the right wing.
As if anyone might have assumed you didn't?:rolleyes:

top gun said:
You know the only purpose of the ACLU is to interpret and try to enforce the Constitution (for free). Any group that their whole purpose is to enforce the United States Constitution "pro bono" must be some Leftist Commie group................ wait, that makes no sense???

"interpret" are you using that as code for distort? FOR FREE? American tax dollars are not "free".....especially when they are spent in support of child pornagraphy and molestation. Hell, they even occasionally practice it. Remember former ACLU of Virginia prez Charles Rust-Tierney, an ACLU board member until the day he was picked up for propagating the child rape and torture business. But hey, the ACLU has much more important things to do like hammer the Boy Scouts and attack any evidence of Christianity. Oh Yeah, thank goodness they have my back LMAO!
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You know the only purpose of the ACLU is to interpret and try to enforce the Constitution (for free). Any group that their whole purpose is to enforce the United States Constitution "pro bono" must be some Leftist Commie group................ wait, that makes no sense??? :D

molehill... molehill! :)

I wasn't referring to the ACLU when I said I associate the right wing with making a mountain out of a molehill.
 
You know the only purpose of the ACLU is to interpret and try to enforce the Constitution (for free). Any group that their whole purpose is to enforce the United States Constitution "pro bono" must be some Leftist Commie group................ wait, that makes no sense??? :D

molehill... molehill! :)

Funny you should mention "leftist commies." Actually, the ACLU was founded by a socialist with definite communist leanings. Here's a document to show Roger Baldwin's long leftist agenda.

http://www.acluvsamerica.com/docs/chapter01.pdf
 
Funny you should mention "leftist commies." Actually, the ACLU was founded by a socialist with definite communist leanings. Here's a document to show Roger Baldwin's long leftist agenda.

http://www.acluvsamerica.com/docs/chapter01.pdf

He also revised the ACLU charter to forbid anyone who was a member of the communist party or any other totalitarian organization from being a member...

... and looking at their official Mission Statement everyone should be glad this organization exists.

The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and guarantees:

Your First Amendment rights-freedom of speech, association and assembly. Freedom of the press, and freedom of religion supported by the strict separation of church and state.

Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.

Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.

Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.
 
Funny you should mention "leftist commies." Actually, the ACLU was founded by a socialist with definite communist leanings.

"I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
-- Roger Baldwin

Roger Baldwin writing to his members of the American Union Against Militarism, describing the organizations transition from the AUAM to the newly created ACLU clearly said this: "Do Steer away from making it look like a socialist enterprise. We want to get a lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of the country and show that we are really the folks that stand by the spirit of our institutions."

Hmmm, sure sounds like those "lefty communists" that you mocked us for believing formed the ACLU.
 
"I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
-- Roger Baldwin

Roger Baldwin writing to his members of the American Union Against Militarism, describing the organizations transition from the AUAM to the newly created ACLU clearly said this: "Do Steer away from making it look like a socialist enterprise. We want to get a lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of the country and show that we are really the folks that stand by the spirit of our institutions."

Hmmm, sure sounds like those "lefty communists" that you mocked us for believing formed the ACLU.

hmmm quotes. let's be honest here. In Politics, speakers speak to the crowd. Here's a bunch of quotes from Republicans when Clinton sent troops into Bosnia.

"You can support the troops but not the president."--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
"Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years."--Joe Scarborough (R-FL)

"Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"--Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

"[The] President . . . is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."--Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)"

American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy."--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."
--Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of George W Bush

"I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning . . I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area."--Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

"I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our over-extended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today"--Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)

"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."-- Governor George W. Bush (R)-TX
 
Example?.... God I hate liberals. Sometimes I'd just like to break their jaw and impale their fallen body. Take that you wisecracking atheist scum! Taste my cold steel you degenerate freak! You hot air clown!

I'm a Conservative. I'm a Christian. I've got to wonder if you actually mean the garbage you are spewing or not? I also wonder if you are masquerading, just trying to give Conservatives a bad name? Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING that you said after "example" was negated by your absolutely stupid, hate-filled closing remarks.

I suggest that you go sit in a closet, close the door and turn out the light, and see if it can possibly be any darker than your heart and mind.

Sorry, I realize I got off topic there....
 
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He also revised the ACLU charter to forbid anyone who was a member of the communist party or any other totalitarian organization from being a member...

... and looking at their official Mission Statement everyone should be glad this organization exists.

The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and guarantees:

Your First Amendment rights-freedom of speech, association and assembly. Freedom of the press, and freedom of religion supported by the strict separation of church and state.

Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.

Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.

Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.

While he did revise the charter to get rid of Communists, he never really did give up his socialist Nazi values, and that shines through to this day. My point is that the the ACLU is a liberal organization and anybody can see that unless they are hiding under a rock, and should be classified as such. Do you really want to trust 100% of what the ACLU says about itself and simply take it as fact. You wanna talk bias, well how can it get more biased that what a organization says about itself?
 
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