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NY State now revoking gun permits for citizens with prescriptions for anti-anxiety meds

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  1. Little-Acorn

    Little-Acorn Well-Known Member

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    A law firm in New York State called Tresmond Law, reports that they have one or more clients whose gun permits have been revoked based on the fact that they have prescriptions from their doctors for anti-anxiety medications. The clients are fully law-abiding citizens, with no backgrounds of violence, criminal activity, or even reckless behavior.

    On Friday, April 5, 2013, Tresmond Law (http://www.tresmondlaw.com) released the following statement:
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    Tresmond Law's client was willing to release the information regarding his case on a redacted basis. The facts are as follows.

    John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.

    Those are the facts. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    Tresmond Law is conducting public discussion on the forum http://www.NYFirearms.com .

    If reports are true, then this is a classic example of the reason why government must never be granted the authority to make decisions on which citizens should be allowed to own firearms and which citizens can't.
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    this is why government should NEVER have access to your medical records.

    the siren song of electronic records conceals government's desire to mine this info for use against you. and its a short step (already in obamacare) to sell this info.
     
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    Dr.Who Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how many politicians pull the trigger on the new legislation they write and pass while taking anti anxiety medication? If this medicine makes a person unfit to own a gun shouldn't it also make them unfit to be a public servant?
     
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    cashmcall Well-Known Member

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    SCARRY
     
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    Very short step..they sell all kinds of records today..
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    oh yeah.

    dontcha think employers would like to know if a prospective hire had chronic health issues ? helps keep insurance costs down.

    the list of scary impacts does not end.
     
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    Given ten minutes I could come up with at least 10 reasons why this is bad..it is border-line dangerous..
     
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    dogtowner Moderator Staff Member

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    borderline ?
    it is so dangerous that you cant even see the light reflecting off the borderline for a hundred years.
    its obscenely ripe for wrongdoing.

    want electronic medical records ? here ya go

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Cruella

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    National electronic medical and banking information is already in the Obamacare law. It's also in the new Common Core policy for schools.

    In fact, I just read an article where the MO Highway Patrol gave the Feds a list of everyone in MO who has a concealed carry permit.

    Americans will be tracked from birth to death.

    They aren't building this for no reason.
     
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    Dr.Who Well-Known Member

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    I am curious about the tracking and common core. Can you tell us more?
     
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    Its the road to socialism. Heres what Gov Cumo looks like
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  12. Little-Acorn

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    Well, that takes care of the obligatory mindless Nazi reference.

    Back to reality:

    And now there is already another development: The NY police says they made a mistake!

    But was the mistake, that they revoked a law-abiding citizen's pistol permit because he had a prescription for anti-anxiety meds?

    Nope. The mistake was that they revoked THE WRONG law-abiding citizen's permit because he had a prescription for anti-anxiety meds!

    And what is the State's greatest concern now? Are they appalled that they restricted the rights of an innocent man?

    Naw. They are simply embarrassed because they "all look foolish".

    Sigh.

    Why do I get the feeling this isn't over?

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    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/11/oops-new-york-state-police-admit-to-big-mistake-in-gun-confiscation-case/

    Oops! New York State Police Admit to Major Mistake in Gun Confiscation Case

    Apr. 11, 2013 10:22am Mike Opelka

    In a surprising turnaround, New York State Police have admitted that they made a mistake when they confiscated the guns and suspended the permit of an Erie County resident on the grounds of mental health.

    Late Wednesday, Erie County, NY, released a statement (see link) blaming the New York State Police for giving them bad information regarding the suspension of a pistol permit and demand to surrender firearms sent to Amherst resident David Lewis.

    (Mr. Lewis was not identified in our original story, his name has since been released in conjunction with court documents filed by his attorney, Jim Tresmond.)

    “Erie County Clerk Chris Jacobs said that late today he received a call from the New York State Police informing him that they had provided information on the wrong person when they notified his office of someone whose permit should be suspended because of the new mental health provisions in New York’s SAFE Act,” the release begins.

    “When the State Police called to tell us they made a mistake and had the wrong person … it become clear that the state did not do their job here and now we all look foolish,” the release went on to say in a quote from Clerk Jacobs.

    Jacobs appeared on WBEN radio in Buffalo on Thursday morning and explained the details of this administrative debacle. Mr. Jacobs also delivered some pointed comments about how the law was written so badly that mistakes like this were bound to happen. He closed with some fairly damning statements and also asked the state to consider scrapping the bill and re-writing it.

    “When you write a piece of legislation in a vacuum, without having hearings, without talking to people about how it’s going to implemented in the real world — without jeopardizing people’s rights, and putting an individual like this through a nightmarish experience, and infringe on their rights, you have to go back to the drawing board,” he said. “And I encourage the legislative leadership here and mostly our governor to take a step back and say ‘we didn’t get it right’ and let’s change this.”

    After the press release was issued by the state, TheBlaze spoke with one of Mr. Lewis’ attorney, Max Tresmond.

    “We won round one,” he said, “round two will be a suit against the state for what they did to our client and his reputation.”
     
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    He should sue the state for MILLIONS! for emotional distress.
     
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    Arne Duncan’s Brave New World: Dept. of Education Wants Your Kid’s Blood Type?

    Among other creepy things. Duncan's DoE appears to be doling out federal funds intending to push aside state and local school boards, establish federal curricula, and gather all sorts of personal data. (Birth marks? Really?)

    Rotten to the Core: The Feds’ Invasive Student Tracking Database

    While many Americans worry about government drones in the sky spying on our private lives, Washington meddlers are already on the ground and in our schools gathering intimate data on children and families.
     
  15. Dr.Who

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    Thank you. Illuminating. I would like to see threads on this topic from those of you who are interested.
     
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