SusanConstant
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Obama and McCain were at the church Rich Warren heads. Did anyone hear Obama answer that it was "above his pay grade" to reason when life begins? He refused to answer; he tried to separate the theological answer from the biological one but then said something like: You know, that's "above my pay grade". If we paid Obama a million dollars he could not reason this as he cannot reason and apply constitutional law on behalf of women and children. Besides, acting as President and Commander makes everything fall under your pay grade as that would be executive order or a vote. A salary to act as President is a matter of reality and formality; a person has to eat; it is not to actually to be compensated for the job as that cannot be measured. Also, is the President your equal or not? Is his energy worth more than yours? You might pay someone to relieve you of the responsibility of making the decisons; I would not.
He's already admitting he cannot do the job as the number one thing any President and Commander must do is embody the law and to do that you must not only know the words but reason and apply it no matter how difficult the question as everything in life is a matter of reasoned decision making. You must live it out as action defines you. If a man says "I can't reason that", "I will not reason that" or "That's impossible to know" - run. He's admitting: I'm not willing and nothing and no one can make an unwilling man willing.
I know this exact answer and even the process but the only clue Obama ever needed was: Science has proven nerve activity exists at 5 weeks. The real, actual reason he refuses to go here is he knows how unpopular the answer is and we cannot afford to have anyone sitting in that office who is out to protect his ego.
McCain said he believes life begins at conception. I disagree.
Life begins in your own head first; either a baby is a person or not. You make a reasoned decision long before you ever have sex. Biologically a baby is a person - the right comes into existence - at 5 weeks or 28 days post implantation. This is not the forum in which to reason it. I'll merely say: We do not know exactly when a fertilized egg attaches itself to the uterine wall; we all know when we had sex. We can all count.
It is my true belief, based on scientific fact and on my own experience of actually being pregnant that abortion until 5 weeks is legal as the right has not come into existence but after that point, the fetus is now a person with the rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Currently women and the men who impregante them are not guilty as they do not own the knowledge - yet. It is about the opportunity existing for the fetus, and once that exists at 5 weeks then the equal protection and due process clauses kick in. The right of privacy? It belongs to: The baby. Leave it alone. The mother's right of privacy ends where her baby's right begins. A health condition? Only that woman can ever make that decision; only she knows the exact, unique facts of her life. Making life and death decisions for ourselves and others - commanding - is how we claim liberty thus come to own our personhood.
Monster doctors we licensed then protected? That's another issue entirely.
Obama should do what I did - act. I marched agaisnt abortion, I crossed a picket line, I've been a client of planned parenthood, my own doctor who is very ethical and moral was almost crucified for providing abortions but then also caring for indigent women who needed other services but could not get them due to money and I witnessed an abortion as I accompanied a friend. My mother was also a maternity nurse and I gave birth twice. I'll give him a pass on actual birth as he has a great eyewitness: his own wife. I know what I saw and felt. That's how you define what you believe - who you are - and so then you can go over the evidence to see if you can support your belief with evidence rising to proof. If you cannot your belief is mistaken or you do not know something. By continuing to act upon what you believe based upon your very own experience of life - your very own evidence and proof - you learn what is fact and what is not. The proof reveals itself.
I will not ever - never - vote for any person who tells me he is not willing and who does not act upon his beliefs; he cannot preside and he cannot command...I especially will not vote for you if your belief is a secret. If you will not tell me what you believe, how can I match it to your words, your actions and your results - life aka the state of my own life including my feelings and the state of the nation? How can I ever know who and what you are? How can I ever know the truth of anything? I knew to expect the current mess with no legal President and a Chief Justice making and amending law as I possess the human ability to reason so I could begin preparing myself for the disaster but do we really need to suffer a secret President before we learn from our mistake?
Secrets keep a national family sick. They rob a nation of its national identity -its founding principles and its founding feeling.
He's already admitting he cannot do the job as the number one thing any President and Commander must do is embody the law and to do that you must not only know the words but reason and apply it no matter how difficult the question as everything in life is a matter of reasoned decision making. You must live it out as action defines you. If a man says "I can't reason that", "I will not reason that" or "That's impossible to know" - run. He's admitting: I'm not willing and nothing and no one can make an unwilling man willing.
I know this exact answer and even the process but the only clue Obama ever needed was: Science has proven nerve activity exists at 5 weeks. The real, actual reason he refuses to go here is he knows how unpopular the answer is and we cannot afford to have anyone sitting in that office who is out to protect his ego.
McCain said he believes life begins at conception. I disagree.
Life begins in your own head first; either a baby is a person or not. You make a reasoned decision long before you ever have sex. Biologically a baby is a person - the right comes into existence - at 5 weeks or 28 days post implantation. This is not the forum in which to reason it. I'll merely say: We do not know exactly when a fertilized egg attaches itself to the uterine wall; we all know when we had sex. We can all count.
It is my true belief, based on scientific fact and on my own experience of actually being pregnant that abortion until 5 weeks is legal as the right has not come into existence but after that point, the fetus is now a person with the rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Currently women and the men who impregante them are not guilty as they do not own the knowledge - yet. It is about the opportunity existing for the fetus, and once that exists at 5 weeks then the equal protection and due process clauses kick in. The right of privacy? It belongs to: The baby. Leave it alone. The mother's right of privacy ends where her baby's right begins. A health condition? Only that woman can ever make that decision; only she knows the exact, unique facts of her life. Making life and death decisions for ourselves and others - commanding - is how we claim liberty thus come to own our personhood.
Monster doctors we licensed then protected? That's another issue entirely.
Obama should do what I did - act. I marched agaisnt abortion, I crossed a picket line, I've been a client of planned parenthood, my own doctor who is very ethical and moral was almost crucified for providing abortions but then also caring for indigent women who needed other services but could not get them due to money and I witnessed an abortion as I accompanied a friend. My mother was also a maternity nurse and I gave birth twice. I'll give him a pass on actual birth as he has a great eyewitness: his own wife. I know what I saw and felt. That's how you define what you believe - who you are - and so then you can go over the evidence to see if you can support your belief with evidence rising to proof. If you cannot your belief is mistaken or you do not know something. By continuing to act upon what you believe based upon your very own experience of life - your very own evidence and proof - you learn what is fact and what is not. The proof reveals itself.
I will not ever - never - vote for any person who tells me he is not willing and who does not act upon his beliefs; he cannot preside and he cannot command...I especially will not vote for you if your belief is a secret. If you will not tell me what you believe, how can I match it to your words, your actions and your results - life aka the state of my own life including my feelings and the state of the nation? How can I ever know who and what you are? How can I ever know the truth of anything? I knew to expect the current mess with no legal President and a Chief Justice making and amending law as I possess the human ability to reason so I could begin preparing myself for the disaster but do we really need to suffer a secret President before we learn from our mistake?
Secrets keep a national family sick. They rob a nation of its national identity -its founding principles and its founding feeling.
