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Obama adopts a conservative approach!

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by Andy, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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    I have been criticized for saying that I would not support Obama, our president elect. In the spirit of unity, I would like to show my support for Obama's conservative view of dropping the plan to impose taxes on oil companies.

    This is a wonderful support of conservative views of taxation that are always successful. Hopefully Obama will go even further!
     
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    As prices dropped dramatically with the Bush recession Oil Company profits will no doubt be less than some of there more obscene takes. A good President will adjust to the market and President-elect Obama will do a great job at this.

    As far as "changes" I think the most interesting thing was seeing how much Bush changed his foreign policy and Iraq policy in his last days to mirror previous Obama statements and follow in his direction.

    Can't wait till President Obama actually gets into office... in reality he's leading the country already!;)
     
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    Barack Obama is no conservative by most definitions, but he is not as liberal as some of his detractors have painted him being. He is seen more as a pragmatist by many observers, whom I sincerely hope turn out to be right.
     
  4. Andy

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    As long as he stays to the right, I'm ok with it.
     
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    I generally agree with this post. I like the so far pragmatic approach. That is the only policy guidance that will get us out of the trouble we find ourselves in.
     
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    How about instead he makes policy from the middle as he should. Hopefully the immature partisan bickering is largely over and we can actually focus on fixing the major issues we face.
     
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    Perfect post!
     
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    Add me to that list! ;)


    I will be wildly relieved if he stays in the middle vs on the liberal side.

    I've read blog after blog of libbys who are pixxed as h*ll about obama's "change" in politics.


    Top Gun, or anyone who knows, can you explain what policy changes President Bush has made that you are talking about??
     
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    Well to start a foreign policy that has often times alientated our closest historic allies, and surrounds the aggressive use of military force towards
    "nation building" based on arrogance and ignorance.

    There are plenty of others....
     
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    Bunz, Thank you for replying. I have further questions though.


    What changes has President Bush made that you can show a connection to obama's statements? That is what I am confused about. :confused:
     
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    Obama said talk with our enemies and not just our allies. That doesn't mean you have to agree with them on anything or give them anything... but open a serious dialog with them.

    After saying he NEVER would... Bush has since started talking with Iran and even the Taliban in Afghanistan.


    Obama said there should be a timetable set for leaving Iraq.

    After saying he never would... Bush has since set up a timetable for withdraw that the Iraq people also wanted all along.


    Obama said we need more troops in Afghanistan, that we had taken our eye off the ball there and it was the real front of Islamic terrorism in the region.

    After saying no Iraq was the main front on terrorism and Afghanistan was not a major problem... Bush (and a laundry list of top commands) have since said many more troops are needed in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region, the real front of terror in the region.


    These are the big ones that just quickly jump to mind... there are others.
     
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    Thanks TopGun. I will read on these further.

    I can't say that I'm for continuing the war anywhere in the world considering our economic circumstances. Take care of your "own house first" before looking into others is one of my beliefs. Right now we have an awful lot to take care of in our own house. I'd like to see most funds being spent outside of the States to be stopped or extremely curtailed.

    Are you "for" continuing the war?
     
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    It's very probable that when Gwahar goes down, you might actually have a chance at beginning to understand what that war (Iraq) was really about.
     
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    Pidgey,

    I don't question what the war is about. I've always viewed it from a stance of retaliation and taking the fight to those who came after us. War and fighting is part of human nature as strongly as love and sex are.

    But circumstances have changed. Our Nation is in deep economic trouble. Therefore, I believe that we need to pull our efforts and money homeward.

    I pray that we are smart enough as a Nation to be off the oil standard prior to Gwahar running out!!! What do you think?
     
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    I question whether "middle" is possible. A policy is either left or right. You can't have a free-market socialist policy, anymore than you can help the economy by increasing taxes.

    Bunz, in all honest, I'm always humored when people say that. Do you realize that every single election people always say that? I'm not even that old. I can only remember first hand, about oh... 4 elections. Each time, people come out and say "oh I hope we can now stop with the partisan bickering..." "Oh I hope we can quite the fighting and contesting, and get along" "Oh I hope we can unite and come together, and blaw blaw blaw".

    It never happens. It hasn't happened in all my short years, and in all the research I've done on various campaigns and presidencies, it's never happened in Bush Sr, Reagan, Carter or Nixon. That's about as far back as I have gone, but I'd wager it's been this way much further back than that.

    Why? Because when people disagree on policy, that leads to fighting. It's always going to be this way. For example, I'll never support Obama. Never. It's simply not going to happen. I don't even support him here, I just support the policy. Taxing oil companies helps nothing. Simply because I agree with the policy, does not mean I support the messiah wannabie.
     
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