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Obama at the "Victory Column"

Discussion in 'Elections & Political Parties' started by Libsmasher, Jul 25, 2008.

  1. Libsmasher

    Libsmasher New Member

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    The germans had rejected Obama's attempt to portray himself as a ersatz JFK or Reagan at the Brandenberg Gate, and he ended up at the Victory Column, a memorial to the german victory over france in the 1870 franco-prussian war. I wonder how this played out in france - that was a huge bitter defeat for france, that created the german empire and partly set the stage for WWI a few decades later.

    Also, he was prattling about being a "world citizen". The arrogance of this guy never ceases to amaze - and americans who haven't been obamatized yet should note that well: Obama will work for "the world"'s interests, not americans.
     
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    Dr.Who Well-Known Member

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    That last bit is a good point. If some guy on the street wants to be a "citizen of the world" that is up to him. But the President of the US must be first and foremost a citizen of the US.
     
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    its only a good point if it was true and he could show it. Not becuse he just said it.
     
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    Thomas Paine in a speech opposing the execution of Louis XVI:
    http://books.google.com/books?id=CY...orld"+thomas+paine&client=firefox-a#PPA105,M1

    Ronald Reagan introduced himself in a speech to the General Assembly of the UN as “both a citizen of the United States and of the world.”

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=42644

    President George H.W. Bush used the exact phrase “citizen of the world” in presenting the national medal of the arts to Vladimir Horowitz, Russian-born pianist who became a US citizen in 1940.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=17829

    I'm sure there are many more cases of the term being used, a little searching works wonders.
     
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    Maybe if Libsmasher ever gets his foot out of his mouth he will realize that Obama stated that he was a proud citizen of the United States before saying he was a citizen of the world.

    Of course I am sure Libsmasher just overlooked this fact. Surely he would not willingly tell a lie about Obama, would he? :rolleyes: Of course he purposely lied about Obama, but this is the right-wing way.
     
  6. Libsmasher

    Libsmasher New Member

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    Good quotes, but I'm sure those guys certainly didn't intend the same meaning as BO.

    Obama's "the world" outlook:

    - He wants to adopt the euroweenie world outlook: dictators are people to trade with and coddle, not manfully oppose. Statism is the solution to all problems, including government health rationing systems. Taxes are good - the more taxes the better.

    - The US should kowtow to the decisions of the UN - a conclave of dictatorships, medieval theocracies, statist euros, and backward third world countries.

    - There are a whole host of international treaties that have been on the back burner that are against US interests that "the world" supports:

    - International Court of Justice
    - Climate Change rounds
    - Law of the sea treaty

    - Obama will continue to let "the world" enter illegally through our southern borders.

    All these would probably be passed by a dem congress and an Obama presidency, in kissing the ass of "the world" instead of looking after US interests.

    Is THAT or anything like it what those men who used the ambiguous phrase meant? NO.
     
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    Lib you are right on this one. Context is everything and when the former said this there was no doubt that American's interests came first. With O there is little reason to think this and some to doubt it. Of course it would have been better if you had known about those quotes before the other post.
     
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    Thank you, and you notice what weak arguments Poop-I uses, on the rare occasions whne he takes a break from his slandering and actually tries to argue something? A mere turn of phrase means BO is just like the great men of history. What dreck! :D
     
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