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Obama is Hitler

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by pocketfullofshells, Oct 31, 2008.

  1. pocketfullofshells

    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    this is really what you right wing hacks have gone to , evry other post I see Hitler Hitler nazi Germany, Then Communist Socialist.

    And yet you expect anyone from the left to even bother to debate or anything? why anyone so retarded as to link Obama to Hitler , is not open to debate . This place is becoming a wasteland devoid of any sane Right wing though at all.

    Sometimes I question why I bother to come back.

    As much as I hate Bush for his actions over the last 8 years, I have never sat and called him Hitler, never called him a facist, never called him UnAmerican. Do I think he is dumb ? no, I do think he lacked the curiosity to learn and care about issues and left them up to others yes. For all the dems I know personally, none ever show the pure disrespect some on here seem to hold for the left. You may cry that some on the left are just as bad, well I don't know them. But that does nto change the fact that at best , your no better then they are.

    If McCain somehow wins, and this is the type of support that gets him there, maybe America Deserves 8 more years of the horrible Bush Policies that got us to the hell hole we have today.
     
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    you have never called bush hitler, are you saying that others in your party have not?

    are you denying that for the last 8 years we have been told bush is hitler and when we said thats rude we were told that dissent is the most patriotic thing we can do

    now you are mad when it comes back and smacks your party right in the face, get used to it man

    i have every intention of paying back the far left for the crap they put us through for the last 8 years and if it was patriotic for them then it will be patriotic for us

    I think more patriotic for me since they are far more simular
     
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    The only reason that I link obama and Hitler is this:

    Killing babies with partial birth abortion. Let me say that I would not overturn abortion rights. Those are a personal choice by women. BUT partial birth abortion is nothing more than HITLER LIKE SLAUGHTER. Also, when an infant is born ALIVE during an abortion, they are a human being with RIGHTS and deserve all the Constitutional rights as any other human!!! obama has voted numerous times to not give these infants their rights and to let them be thrown in closest until they die. That is an animal, just like Hitler.
     
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    I agree that is what I think of when comparing them. but to be honest i probably would still say it even if I did not see that connection. I have been put through a living hell for the last 8 years with bush is hitler bush is the anti christ, bush is evil and when asked why do you say that, they say dissent is the most patriotic thing you can do, they even sell bumber stickers saying it.

    but now its their guy and they dont want to hear it, thats crap


    but you are right the voting against the born alive act 4 times is sub human
    and the voting for partial birth abortion is sub human

    We all have a single question we wish we could ask them, I would ask Obama what he felt about the Terri Shivo case.

    I bet he would have said it all played out right and that would just prove again to me he is like hitler

    when you can target people or groups of people and say their life is not as valuable as yours then you are like hitler
     
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    The reason I say Obama is acting like Hitler is because Obama is acting like Hitler. If Obama was not acting like Hitler, I would not say that he was acting like Hitler. Hilter used similar ambiguous language as Obama is today. I say this... because it is true.

    I don't expect the left to debate this, because facts are not changed by debate. You can go look at other socialist dictators, and the themes are the same. What would a leftist have to say? No it isn't? Well, we can look at what dictators of the past have said, and match it up... so on what grounds do you say it isn't? None.

    The point is, we should learn from the past. We can look back at the worlds history of socialist dictators, and see what happened in those situations, and look at our situation today, and learn to avoid those mistakes. Here we have someone passing himself off as a messiah, who speaks in nebulous language, and has connections to people who have a dangerous ideology.

    In other countries, it's caused massive problems. No doubt, it will happen here to. Why do we have to learn the same lessons over and over?
     
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    Great post Andy. You express yourself well.
     
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    Andy is great,

    Ask him to post for you his trick. It was so cleaver and funny and really made a point.

    he was proving that Obama followers will defend any obama policy for any reason. he even proved obamas policy's are so crazy to us conservatives no matter how stupid the policy it looks like something he might say and even conservatives would beleive it came from him.

    Andy post that thing you did :)
     
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    LOL! Oh man, I still laugh about that. Remember Obama's national energy policy of "Inflate your tires!"?

    Obama unveils new National Health Plan
    Feel free to read up. Make sure you read post #18 of the thread. It gives the back ground to it. Maybe I'll get Dr. Ofveus to do some more articles.
     
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    Thank you Andy, that was soo funny


    Unite our Nation please read Andys post to get insight on obama supporters here at the hop
     
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    1 I said I or my friends
    2. my party is not the Dems
    3. I said you are as bad as they are
    you cry they did it first? really that's the best you got? what worked maybe when you where 5 for logic.
    and no becase comparing people to Hitler, or policies to hitler is the sign that you have lost, have nothing worth while to say and are just yelling to yell now. Its childish and shows you dont have anything worth while to add to the debate anymore.
     
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    Well see I'm not saying that about Obama because the left said it about Bush. I'm not even a strong supporter of Bush.

    I'm saying it because it is... accurate. The end.
     
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    Really acting like Hitler? you mean killing and having goons take out other political leaders? calling for a whole race to be whiped out? Is he calling for a new American Empire and attacking our neighbors? I am sorry that people actually like him and large amounts show up to hear him, while McCain can't come even close. Maybe if McCain had any support outside of people who just dont want Obama he could. but that's about all he has. Its no without reason I dont see lost of posts by the right saying how great McCain he is, just 1000 about how Obama is Hitler, the anti Christ, a Communist...ext. because you have no one and your bitter about it. YOu guys don't have Reagan, you can bow down at his feet as your god as you treat him like. All the Messiah bull*** you guys link to Obama, is just you are Reagan who your candidates are required by party Law I think, to say his name 10 times per debate or something to get the nomination.
     
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    I'm sorry but your posts are getting very hard to understand. You must be tired. Perhaps you can try and express this thought again tomorrow?
     
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    Look at the groups that have supported him. Ayers blew people up. Hamas wants to wipe out an entire race. Muammar al-Gaddafi killed all his political opponents. All of these and more, support Obama. Obama said he'd like to march into Pakistan and change our policy toward the US-friendly government there.

    But all my personal comparisons to Hitler involve his policy statements. He rarely if ever speaks directly. It's always "hope" and "change" and "yes we can" without saying what. He never tells you where exactly he stands on an issue, and when he does, he changes positions 3 times so you don't know which of the three mutually exclusive statements he really believes, or even if he believes any of them. Now, you can whine about it all you want, but this is how dictators come to power.

    You think Fidel Castro openly stated he'd slaughter thousands of the very people that put him in power, then make Cuba into a pawn of the Soviets, while dooming population of Cuba to a socialist hell of poverty and oppression, that they are willing to swim across the gulf to escape??

    Of course not. He'd never have lived long enough to finish the speech. No, he did what Obama is doing "hope and change" "yes we can", blaw blaw "Believe" and other such empty political propaganda without stating what he really stands for.

    We link it to Obama? We do? It's us doing this? Let's see if that's true.

    This is a video produced of people who actively support portraying Obama as the messiah. Note, none of the pictures, quotes, or campaign propaganda is fabricated. All of them are official releases.


    Obama Messiah
    This site sells shirts with Messiah08 and a picture of Obama. Did I make that up?

    This is a magazine in Germany that identifies Obama as portraying himself as the messiah.
    The cover says "The Messiah Factor" Der messias-faktor. Note the light shining behind his head. Did we make all that up?

    Note the light shining behind his head in the above photo. If you look in the first youtube video above, there are at least 10 different pictures, each with Obama having light radiating from his head. The halo around the head is of course universally used to denote divinity.
    Christ with light from his head.

    Many people have supported this idea.
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3184/2805453072_0866c6fddd.jpg?v=0
    This is a picture of a bare chested woman in the american flag, a symbol of America, being woo'd by Obama depicted as a head in the clouds radiating light.

    Note these quotes:
    Isaiah 40:3 "Clear the way for the LORD in the wilderness; Make smooth in the desert a highway for our God."

    Mahatma Gandhi.

    At Obama rallies, often people have fainted, and many have been photographed with praying hands towards Obama. Did you notice the people praying to Obama in the video? Let me guess, they were all republican plants... right?

    Here a woman actually passed her child over the crowd to get him to Obama, so he could kiss him. Women have lined up with their children to have Obama kiss them.

    In the Denver speech, Obama had the stage built to resemble a Greek temple. The ancient Greek Temples were built to be houses, or homes for the g-ds. Are we making this up?

    Here Louis Farrakhan openly declares Obama is the messiah.


    And there is much more. But here's the question, you tell me how much of all that ... I just made up :)
     
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    If I can chime in here with a few things to add on the subject. Without trying to speak for anyone else, I am one who thinks that the Obama-Hitler comparison is bogus and really a sign of campaign weakness and/or desperation. As are the other equations involving marxism.
    To address specifically the Hitler charges, I find it disingenious to make this leap, in my eyes, Hitler was probably the worst human to live. He is known for his bloodthirst and fanaticism, which lead to active religious/racial genocide. As well as a very aggressive expansionist foreign policy through armed conflict/war and the pursuit of absolute power and control.
    NONE, absolutely none of these 3 trademarks that define what made Hitler, are true in Obama.
    By using some of the factors previously mentioned, Eisenhower could be compared fairly to Hitler as well.
    Eisenhower was responsible for developing infastructure, specifically the interstate highway system and a huge expansion of the air travel network. While useful for the average citizen, use for defense purposes were also involved. Hitler did the same thing, building the autobahn and building airfields etc.
    Also, Eisenhower was an expanionist himself. Admitting two additional states and expanding the overseas presence of America.
    Now I would never think of Eisenhower and Hitler being similar men, the notion is absurd.

    Obama being in the same breath as Hitler is just to far of a stretch in my book. Obama has shown NO desire or history to act in a way similar to Hitler. I dont buy it.
     
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