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Obama says Economy Better Today????

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by asur, Jul 1, 2009.

  1. asur

    asur New Member

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    One month ago, the market opened to the upside, as jobless claims were less than expected and durable goods came in higher than estimates. Also making headlines were comments from President Obama stating that he sees the economy getting better.

    Lol, Mr. Obama, things are getting worse.
    You sir were and are misleading America!
    It is getting worse everyday sir.

    We don't want to vote for you, we just want some truth
    and sound economic policies. So far you have failed to deliver either.
     
  2. Bob the Builder

    Bob the Builder New Member

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    Better??? Better than WHAT? The last time I saw anything like this was when Mr. Peanut was in the White House and there were near riots in the streets!

    God save us from well intentioned Democraps, they know not what they do!
     
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    asur New Member

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    It's absolutely terrible out there and getting worse.

    The problem also is not only Obama, but the new generation of brain-dead Americans
    that think socialism is OK. This is a bad combination.

    I feel no sympathy for liberals losing their jobs.
    They voted for their poverty, I didn't.
     
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    asur New Member

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    Some good and typical Obama news:

    NEW YORK – Newspaper publisher Gannett Co. plans to cut 1,400 jobs in the next few weeks, about 3 percent of the work force, as it faces a prolonged slump in advertising revenue.

    Bob Dickey, head of the company's U.S. community publishing division, informed staff of the layoffs in a letter Wednesday. He told employees that "there have been some promising signs of a recovery, but the reality is the improvements are not broad-based and the economy continues to be fragile."
     
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    Obama pulled the lie again today.
    The stock market even jumped, based on silly news.

    But the facts:
    The federal deficit has topped $1 trillion for the first time ever and could grow to nearly $2 trillion by this fall, intensifying fears about higher interest rates, inflation and the strength of the dollar.

    Railroad operator CSX said Monday that second-quarter earnings fell 20 percent as it collected fewer fuel surcharges and shipments continued to drop

    In a sign the financial crisis is not yet over, CIT Group Inc., the No. 1 lender to small and mid-sized U.S. businesses, is holding advanced talks with the government about receiving emergency federal assistance, officials said Monday.
     
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    pocketfullofshells Well-Known Member

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    land of 10,000 lakes and 2 senators again
    its like reading 2 blind people discusing watching the sunset.....
     
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    Ya think... LOL!:D

    Well you know the old saying... A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse!

    What we have there are 2 blind horses that hate American and are pullin' for it to fail... sad.
     
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  9. PLC1

    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    Do you know of any facts that counter the opinions expressed above?

    Here's what the local paper is saying:

    Jobs harder to come by for college graduates

    Even people graduating with what should be high demand skills are not finding work. The local unemployment rate is now over 15%. That doesn't sound like an economic recovery to me.

    The most ridiculous part of the debate is this:

    If a Democrat is in the WH, and the economy turns sour, then the Republicans point out that things are bad, but the Democrats try to say the economy is improving.

    If a Republican is in the WH, and the economy turns sour, then the Democrats point out that things are bad, but the Republicans try to say the economy is improving.

    It's not party, folks, nor is it who is in the WH.

    That economic unpleasantness of the late '70s would have occurred even if a genuine, bona fide Republican had been warming a seat in the oval office. "Mr Peanut" was not the cause, OPEC was the cause.

    The current less than totally optimistic news does not depend on the letter after the name of the president, whether you want to cast blame on the D there now, or the R that was there when the downslide started.
     
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    Nice post PLC1. The problems in the 70's were due in large part to OPEC, but the bigger issue was our response to OPEC, and not doing enough for ourselves because the Demoncrap "environmental movement" wasn't permitting for new refineries to be built, or existing ones to be expanded to meet the demand.

    As for the current mess, it started with FDR (D), was made worse by Truman (D), Kennedy (D), Johnson (D), Carter (D) and Clinton (D), not to count they literally thousands of Representatives (D) and Senators (D) who invented, propagated, and continued Fannie, Freddie, and all of the other garbage 'programs' that led directly to the fall of the economy. The thing that makes it so bad, at least IMHO, is that Bush was warning of this back in April of '01, but the Demoncraps on the committees in the House and Senate wouldn't let anything proposed to fix it get out of committee and to the floor for a vote!

    So you are correct, there is only so much that the President can do, but when you've got 80 years of Presidents and Congress's of ONE PARTY (D) who have systematically built their economic house of cards on the shifting sands, it's little wonder when it all falls apart.

    SAVE AMERICA, OUTLAW LIBERALS!!!
     
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    The market does not "jump" almost 200 points if the President says things are getting better. The market "jumped" yesterday due to anticipated better than expected earnings results among multiple companies.

    Seems to me inflation would artificially increase stock prices to compensate for this. While certainly the deficit does bring up the problems you list, I do not yet associate that with the stock market's actions.

    True, but this was better than expected news, and CSX had been able to shed a lot of waste to minimize the hit. So that news would drive prices up probably more than down on the day.
     
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  12. PLC1

    PLC1 Moderator Staff Member

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    That's what I said, wasn't it? You're a great example of a partisan Republican blaming Democrats for all of the nation's ills.

    Do you believe that Democrat is synonymous with liberal, and conversely that Republican is synonymous with conservative?

    Was the Bush WH conservative back when he had a majority Republican Congress?

    If so, why was the government growing out of control and deficits building during that time as well?

    When you say "outlaw liberals", you're really saying, "Outlaw anyone who doesn't share my own political philosophy", or so it seems to me.

    Just what is a liberal, anyway?
     
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    Obama says Economy Better Today????

    How did he phrase it, exactly?

    Something like: "At last we have achieved real [economic] peace in our time" ???

    :)
     
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  14. Bob the Builder

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    No, I'm simply stating well documented, and incontrovertible TRUTHS. If you would like, I'll be more than happy to present the information in support of what I've said.

    Of course not. There are "Blue Dog" Democrats (we have a lot of them here), and there are RINO's, but you already knew that, so why did you bring it up?

    Not nearly as conservative as I would have liked, but as it bears to this discussion, yes, especially in comparison to those in Congress who knew that we were facing an impending disaster, and intentionally did NOTHING to prevent it so that they could blame Bush when it finally happened. Again, I have evidence to support this if you'd care to see it.

    That would depend on what you specifically mean by "government growing out of control" and by "deficits building". If you'd care to elucidate, I'll do my best to answer your specific concerns.

    No, I want to outlaw anyone who is intentionally trying to DESTROY THIS COUNTRY, or in more specific terms, I consider them to be traitors, and they should be dealt with accordingly.

    Liberals are those who ignore, or intentionall try to subvert, the very clear text of the Constitution with the aim of foisting their SOCIALIST agenda on America.
     
  15. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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    I'm with PLC. It's pretty lame to blame everything that has ever gone wrong on Democrats. Now you might be able to say that all the nations ills are due to liberal policies, but clearly not all liberal policies were put in place by democrats.

    Nixion created the EPA, and the EPA is what has mandated use of Ethanol.

    Further, Bush is the one who originally pushed the Bailout. Yes Obama made it worse, and pushed the same policy, but that's still something Bush started.

    If you want to become another zealot, that's fine, but you can include me out. Bush had many chances to undo Democrap junk policies, and he didn't. Republicans have many things to answer for too.

    I specifically despise the democrap party because they act like an idiot and blame everything on Bush. I'm certainly not going to become anything like them and start blaming every insect bite on the planet on Obama either. I'm better than that. Hopefully you are too.
     
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