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Obama Speaks Healthcare

Discussion in 'U.S. Politics' started by asur, Mar 2, 2009.

  1. asur

    asur New Member

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    The US economy is failing right before our eyes
    and all Obama talks about is implementing
    a new Socialist Healthcare system, as if that is important
    and will improve the economy.



    How will that help the economy?
    Answer: It won't , it will make it worse.

    Mr Obama Thank You Not.
     
  2. HankHill

    HankHill New Member

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    Come on now, what's wrong with a little socialism in yer fanny?
    Vat harm can it do? Now turn your head and cough!

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  3. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

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    Of course the Liberal insanity goes thusly: Ford closed US plants, and moved more operations into Canada, because in Canada the government pays for health care, thus reducing labor cost.

    This is factually accurate. Ford did move more automotive manufacturing north of the boarder because doing so reduced labor cost by eliminating health care costs.

    However, like most liberal theories, they take this grain of truth, and twist, expand, warp it to fit into all areas of the economy.

    But auto manufacturers, through the contracts with UAW, have health care enforced through union agreements. Thus they could not make these changes. So moving operations to Canada did help

    This however, is not true for the rest of nation. Most companies change their benefit packages to fit their financial condition. Once done, there is no further need to reduce health care costs. So instituting national health care will not help.

    Further, most leftist idiots fail to realize who is going to pay for health care. In most countries with nationalized health care, all industries are nailed with a heavy tax to pay for socialization. So whatever minor benefit a company might get with reduced health care costs, will be more than matched by massive government taxes.

    And of course, as I always mention with socialized medicine, it really sucks.

    STORY
    I'll take a moment to recall a caller to a radio program just a few days ago. It was the wife of a doctor, and they were asking whether they should empty their retirement fund now, or wait a few years. Here's why...

    They said it was pretty clear socialized medicine was in the future if Obama has his way. So they were planning on packing up and moving out of the country, to practice medicine somewhere they wouldn't be controlled by the government. Moreover, the word in doctors circles is that many of the older doctors are going to flip off government, and retire early if it's socialized, while others already have back up plans to go to other countries.

    Now think about that... all the older experienced doctors are going to retire early, and the mid-life doctors are moving out of the country... who does that leave us? The young 'too inexperienced to go somewhere else' doctors that now don't have any older ones to learn from. Great.....
     
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    first, let's call it what it really is.
    Universal Health Control .

    It is not going to work and will lead to health care rationing. it will give the govt power to choose what illnesses get treated, and they will control whether or not they want to provide health care.

    let's look at this scenario

    Retired person - in his 70's paid into the system his whole life. Now he comes down with a cancer or some major disease and the govt says, well since the treatment is too expensive and we rarely see many cases solved.. we won't cover that.

    What is that person to do? By then, most of the private healt care providers would have closed shop because the govt would have forced them shut with their involvement.

    I guess he's out of luck.

    Doesn't make any sense.
     
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