Palin earns C grade as Governor

Obama did steal the election from Hillary, but bush never stole the election from AlGore,


watching you cry for Clinton, with others, makes me think maybe woman should not vote again....
She Lost , She lost Fair, she lost based on teh Rules they all knew, that where the same for all, she lost she lost she lost she lost. You can cry about states that broke the rules, cry about how they should have gone to her, ingore that Obama was not even on the ballot on one becuse of the rules, and cry some more...
 
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GenSeneca;59360]Obama has publicly called to end the slash and burn politics... Why don't you follow that message and give up on your Character Assassinations? (Hypocrite)

No actually that would only make me a hypocrite if I had said that.:)

And it's not a Character Assassination as long as I believe it to be true when I say it. And everything I've said I believe.

It's not just one sided anymore. It used to be Liberals would rather just take the high road and be complacent an peaceful. But it's like seeing your mother getting picked on or beat up in the street. You get to fighting back hard early & often.


Additionally... Bush-Hitler was the final straw for me. I NEVER saw a Clinton-Hitler poster or bumbersticker AND Clinton DID LIE... He deserved to be impeached for lying UNDER OATH.

Well I don't think any of them are Hitler. But I have seen some Obama/Hitler photoshop work in here.

On Clinton you guys were a bunch of thugs and jerks! You spent millions of taxpayer dollars investigating (witch hunting) the man on the most BS stuff... never found one single thing. And then you lucked out and found out about a brief totally consensual adult affair (with a woman unlike the current Republican sex scandals) and you back him into a corner of publicly embarrassing his wife & child or saying there was no affair. A lie that happens about 100,000 times a day in divorce court. So you then prosecuted the man for lieing about doing something totally legal.

You all should burn in hell for that one! Oh wait... Gingrich... Foley... Craig... Haggard... Vitters... I guess you are.


Swift Boating? Jeeezus...

Jesus has nothing to do with it. You viciously smeared and lied on a real hero, an in country fighter who could have got out of the draft but volunteered to serve in harms way leading other men and getting wounded himself.

While you built up a Chicken Hawk that showed up for the Texas Air National Guard when he wasn't out campaigning for on of his dad's friends or dodging drug tests.

And when he did show up in that hostile Texas environment what did he do... kept us safe from Mexico invading... what?

The fight was in Vietnam where John Kerry was!
 
On Clinton you guys were a bunch of thugs and jerks! You spent millions of taxpayer dollars investigating (witch hunting) the man on the most BS stuff... never found one single thing. And then you lucked out and found out about a brief totally consensual adult affair (with a woman unlike the current Republican sex scandals) and you back him into a corner of publicly embarrassing his wife & child or saying there was no affair. A lie that happens about 100,000 times a day in divorce court. So you then prosecuted the man for lieing about doing something totally legal.

There was also that matter of 100 FBI files on Republican leaders that were "missplaced" in Clinton's possession. Interesting.

It really is not surprising that the party out of power attacks the other one and looks for ways to get back into power. It seems to be an endless cycle.
 
Omigosh, just SO WHAT!!??!! Alaska got graded C, along with California, Illinois, Massachusetts, etc. Alaska has lots of company, and the marginalization between C+ and C is not worth mentioning.

One thing calls the whole report into question to me: Michigan is rated B+???? WHAAAATTTTT??? I'm sure my fellow Michiganders will be soooo happy to hear this! But of course, our illustrious Gov. is one of the members of their panel...

Yeah, that kind of threw me for a loop too. Michigan is like in a single state great depression... I mean... Canada is now out producing the US in cars... due largely... to Michigan. And political news out of Michigan, well... just hasn't been all that positive.

So... I'm a little confused by that, unless they are viewing Michigan from a socialist perspective, in which case, yes it is a goodly amount more socialists than many states. Of course if that's the measuring stick, then the entire cite, and all it's ratings are completely unimportant to me whatsoever.
 
You know what goes around from that side.

I've got things to do. I'm not spending my night going back through everyone's posts to say who said what when or who agreed with who.

I'm saying calling Sara Caribou Barbie was tame. And as someone who posts here all the time you know that. And certainly nothing, nothing like "BlackTastular Other" which would just be going to race.

I think we should all just keep things in a little perspective and move on... OK?

Not saying I'll never use the term Caribou Barbie again because I probably will somewhere. But I've kinda moved on to Sara. I hope Sara is OK. Because Barack sure doesn't bother me.

You know, for the party that claims to not be sexist, it's amazing how I have faith in Sarah, and it has nothing to do with how she looks, or if she wares a skirt. In fact, when I went to investigate on my own, her record, her gender never came to mind.

Yet here you are, complaining about your side being slandered? Top Gun, you of all the leftists on this forum are the single most slanderous person here. You slander every single person you can at any give moment bar none. For amusement only, I'd consider going through every post you have made just to see if I could find a single post of yours without a slander in it. And if there are a few, I'm curious what the ratio would be.

The hallmark of the left: Hypocrisy.
 
And it's not a Character Assassination as long as I believe it to be true when I say it. And everything I've said I believe.
I know, and despite any facts to the contrary.

It's not just one sided anymore. It used to be Liberals would rather just take the high road and be complacent an peaceful.
When was that? I don't EVER remember Liberals being complacent and peaceful, they have for my entire life been IN YOUR FACE abrasive.

On Clinton you guys were a bunch of thugs and jerks!
So two wrongs make a right in your book?

You all should burn in hell for that one![/B] Oh wait... Gingrich... Foley... Craig... Haggard... Vitters... I guess you are.
Feinstein, Pelosi, Reid, Jefferson, Frank, Kennedy, Berger, I guess you're really screwed. The people you named, are out of politics. The people I named, still have their jobs.

You viciously smeared and lied on a real hero, an in country fighter who could have got out of the draft but volunteered to serve in harms way leading other men and getting wounded himself.

While you built up a Chicken Hawk that showed up for the Texas Air National Guard when he wasn't out campaigning for on of his dad's friends or dodging drug tests.
If the Left calls Bush Hitler and I hold you responsible for that, is that fair? So why is it fair for you to stereotype everyone on the Right and hold everyone on the Right responsible for the Swift boat vets and all the problems with Bush?

The more you stereotype, generalize and ignore the fact that I'm an INDIVIDUAL, the more I'm going to throw it right back in your face and hold EVERYTHING the left has done against YOU - Personally. ;)
 
When was that? I don't EVER remember Liberals being complacent and peaceful, they have for my entire life been IN YOUR FACE abrasive.


and where i grew up, you (and by YOU, i mean ME) could be berated or assaulted in public for promoting political views that differ from the evangelical, republican status quo.

just as conservatives get shouted down in california or oregon, liberals get shouted down in georgia and texas. the difference is, liberals tend to recognize the liberal areas of discourse, whereas conservatives see the conservative parts as 'normal' and only the liberal parts as aberrant.
 
I will settle this fight.....Trust Me With The Country....lol (Joking)

I just saw another ad and I was thinking if all politicians put as much effort into their jobs as much as they do tv ads this country would be excellent. Don't you agree? I mean, do we really know what the candidates really would do once in the White House? At times I believe people like us would do a better job than they do.

The next reality show White House Swap. Instead of a show that swaps mates lets see how common people would run the White House for a day. I would fall out.lol

I'm feeling happy today so please excuse me.

"The heaviest thing anyone can carry is grudge"
 
So you then prosecuted the man for lieing about doing something totally legal

The nature of his position held him to a higher moral standard. If he's willing to cheat on his wife, what other morales is he willing to just ignore? Really, it comes with the job, and lying under oath is lying under oath no matter what he's lying about. If it was such an "innocent" thing to fool around with his intern, why didn't he just say he did and ask forgiveness? But nooooo he had to lie about it. He did it to himself really.
 
The nature of his position held him to a higher moral standard. If he's willing to cheat on his wife, what other morales is he willing to just ignore? Really, it comes with the job, and lying under oath is lying under oath no matter what he's lying about. If it was such an "innocent" thing to fool around with his intern, why didn't he just say he did and ask forgiveness? But nooooo he had to lie about it. He did it to himself really.



that is a giant load.

although i can't say i condone or admire bill's infidelity, the only reason it came to light was because of a partisan witch hunt-- the question never should have been asked of him, and he never should have had to lie.

yes, once he perjured himself, the impeachment was ostensibly legit, but it misses the larger point. the right wing has, for decades, perpetuated a culture war against their political opponents and the impeachment was solely a result of that, not of any relevant or material wrongdoing.
 
On Clinton you guys were a bunch of thugs and jerks! You spent millions of taxpayer dollars investigating (witch hunting) the man on the most BS stuff... never found one single thing. And then you lucked out and found out about a brief totally consensual adult affair (with a woman unlike the current Republican sex scandals) and you back him into a corner of publicly embarrassing his wife & child or saying there was no affair. A lie that happens about 100,000 times a day in divorce court. So you then prosecuted the man for lieing about doing something totally legal.

Now, when I read statements like this... I have to conclude that Ann Coulter is right: If Democrats had any brains, they would be Republicans. I have to conclude that I could never be a democrat because... I think. In order become a democrats, I'd have to beat my own head, with a large blunt object in order to kill off enough brain cells so I'd be stupid enough to be one. Why?

Because any republican knows that everything stated in there is wrong! Not... I think it's wrong... no IT IS WRONG. So either liberals are A: Slanderous fools, or B: Ignorant and plain stupid. What other possibility is there?

Let's review shall we? The supposed witch-hunt Investigation(s), resulted in:

Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clintons, who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, of fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122!

The so-called "witch hunt" turned up 47 "witches" then, with another 122 "witches" running for the hills, while 61 little "witches" had minor crimes. Never seen a witch hunt turn up so many.

And what crimes were the Clinton "witches" convicted of?

Drug Trafficking, Racketeering, Extortion, Bribery, Tax Evasion, Kickbacks, Embezzlement, Fraud, Conspiracy, Fraudulent loans, Illegal gifts, Illegal campaign contributions, Money laundering, Perjury, and Obstruction of justice.

And what scandals? How many scandals are we talking about here?

Whitewater, Cattlegate, Travelgate, Gennifer Flowers, Filegate, Fostergate, Billing Recordsgate, Jonesgate, Phone Callgate, Lincoln Bedroomgate, Drug Dealergate, Coffeegate, Buddhist Templegate, Hubbel Hushgate, Lippogate, Chinese Techgate, Willeygate, Pardongate, Lootergater, Vandalgate, Broaddrickgate, Wag-the-Dog-gate, even PBS-gate, and dozens more.

Even the most stupid republican among us, knows the Lewisky affair was one of the most minor of the scandals from dozens, which apparently is more than the most intelligent of the democrats.

So glad I am no longer a liberal. Scares me to death that I was many years ago, counted as one of them.
 
Now, when I read statements like this... I have to conclude that Ann Coulter is right: If Democrats had any brains, they would be Republicans. I have to conclude that I could never be a democrat because... I think. In order become a democrats, I'd have to beat my own head, with a large blunt object in order to kill off enough brain cells so I'd be stupid enough to be one. Why?

Because any republican knows that everything stated in there is wrong! Not... I think it's wrong... no IT IS WRONG. So either liberals are A: Slanderous fools, or B: Ignorant and plain stupid. What other possibility is there?

Let's review shall we? The supposed witch-hunt Investigation(s), resulted in:

Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clintons, who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, of fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122!

The so-called "witch hunt" turned up 47 "witches" then, with another 122 "witches" running for the hills, while 61 little "witches" had minor crimes. Never seen a witch hunt turn up so many.

And what crimes were the Clinton "witches" convicted of?

Drug Trafficking, Racketeering, Extortion, Bribery, Tax Evasion, Kickbacks, Embezzlement, Fraud, Conspiracy, Fraudulent loans, Illegal gifts, Illegal campaign contributions, Money laundering, Perjury, and Obstruction of justice.

And what scandals? How many scandals are we talking about here?

Whitewater, Cattlegate, Travelgate, Gennifer Flowers, Filegate, Fostergate, Billing Recordsgate, Jonesgate, Phone Callgate, Lincoln Bedroomgate, Drug Dealergate, Coffeegate, Buddhist Templegate, Hubbel Hushgate, Lippogate, Chinese Techgate, Willeygate, Pardongate, Lootergater, Vandalgate, Broaddrickgate, Wag-the-Dog-gate, even PBS-gate, and dozens more.

Even the most stupid republican among us, knows the Lewisky affair was one of the most minor of the scandals from dozens, which apparently is more than the most intelligent of the democrats.

So glad I am no longer a liberal. Scares me to death that I was many years ago, counted as one of them.


HE WAS IMPEACHED FOR LYING ABOUT A BLOWJOB.

clinton may have done a lot of bad things, but to say that the impeachment was legitimate is moralistic bs.
 
You know, for the party that claims to not be sexist, it's amazing how I have faith in Sarah, and it has nothing to do with how she looks, or if she wares a skirt. In fact, when I went to investigate on my own, her record, her gender never came to mind.

Yet here you are, complaining about your side being slandered? Top Gun, you of all the leftists on this forum are the single most slanderous person here. You slander every single person you can at any give moment bar none. For amusement only, I'd consider going through every post you have made just to see if I could find a single post of yours without a slander in it. And if there are a few, I'm curious what the ratio would be.

The hallmark of the left: Hypocrisy.

That's not going to work... better try again. That's how you Karl Rove types try to back us down... ain't happening my friend.

Palin isn't the least bit qualified. I'd say the exact same thing if she were a he.

And as far as poking a finger in the eye of politicians I know are lousy that would be BUSH/CHENEY. I must not be that crazy or unkind because up to 77% of the rest of the American people agree. Worst President since polling began.

McCain didn't have to be a carbon copy policy wise. He chose that himself. He was against virtually every single Bush thing back in 2000 that he now loves and wants to continue to burden the American people with.

So do I crack on 'em. Do I point out in big bold letters their failed policies? Sure.;)


Leave me out of it. How do you explain away your own side getting it and you don't?


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